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January 1, 2017 at 2:26 pm #124237PatriciaParticipant
Hello, I’m writing because I feel stuck, as I’ve been for the past 5 months now, maybe someone out there will help me shed some light on this matter.
I’ve been living with my best friend Joshua for two years now. He suffers from General Anxiety Disorder, and I met him about three years ago. Ever since we met we felt a deep trust for one another, and he helped me go through a very tough time in my life, where I had my heart broken.
Eventually we became friends with benefits, and even though I felt more for him, he was always clear with me on the fact that he thought relationships were things that always ended, and he didn’t want to lose me and the special bond we shared. When we started living together I have to admit I always struggled with the fact of acting differently inside the house as opposed to the outside: we were very warm to one another while in our house, and when we left we were much colder and distant. When we hanged out with other people, it was always difficult for me to be treated as just another friend, seeing him pick up other girls, but I dealt with it anyway. Sometimes I would say something to him and he would reply that I was taking a girlfriend attitude, which I had no right to, since we were just friends.
He also behaved very strangely towards his ex girlfriends, keeping a very close relationship with them. Every time he spoke of them he acted very strange, and I felt he was hiding from me the fact that he was talking to them, as he always left the room we were in when they called, or used to hide the screen of his cell phone from me when he was texting them.
This was hard for me to understand, along with his constant desire of being loved, and I never understood why he always wanted to be loved, but didn’t allow me to love him. I kind of always felt undeserving, unappreciated.
As time passed, his struggle with GAD has gotten more complicated. Many days he wakes up feeling very depressed and doesn’t go to work, he has quite a lot of debt, and he constantly feels empty and without a purpose.
Even though all of this, I’ve understood him and cared for him very much: during this whole time I still wanted to be with him and over the months I told him so, getting the same answer: he didn’t want to risk losing me because of a failed relationship.A year and a half ago, I changed jobs and met different people, some of whom became close friends. One of those people is Robert, a colleague a couple of years younger than me, with whom I also developed a very close relationship. As I started interacting with people at the office, I brought Joshua to the group, and he always teased me about how Robert was attracted to me. Since I was thinking always of him, I never paid much attention to this, and always made Joshua my first priority, cancelling my plans with my new acquaintances every time Joshua felt bad or told me he needed me.
In May I met someone else who was clearly interested in me, and I started seeing him, and even thought I didn’t notice at the time, every time I told Joshua I was going out with him, something happened that made me cancel my plans too. I was meeting the other guy for dinner, and even though Joshua was supporting me and telling me to go on and live my life, he had an anxiety attack and went to be checked into a psychiatric clinic. I was extremely worried and felt horrible, and I realized that I felt so bad because I felt I was committed to Joshua, even though we were not a couple. After he returned home I told him again how I felt: I wanted to be with him and only him, and take care of him and be happy and support him during difficult times. He answered the same thing he had answered twice before: he didn’t want to lose me in a failed relationship, and besides, he considered in his shape he was not a good influence to me, and sometimes he felt I was not a good influence for him, either.
I, again, felt very sad about his answer, but felt relieved that he cleared the situation that way.
It took quite a lot of effort to start to think of him only as a friend who did not want a closer relationship with me.
I started seeing Robert without telling Joshua, because I didn’t want him to judge me, or warn me, or tease me because of this. I had the most amazing time, and I felt this happiness I had not experienced in a long time by being with him. He always listens, always wants to see me smile.
In my head I justified myself for going out with Robert, because of Joshua’s attitudes. But then I thought there was no real competition, because I was never Joshua’s partner in the first place.Then I decided to start telling Joshua little by little, that I was going out with Robert. He acted a bit possessive, and told me Robert was not good for me, and he didn’t want me to suffer the way I had suffered when we first met.
Then, suddenly one day he told me he had had second thoughts about the answer he had given me, and he wanted for us to try and be a couple.This was very confusing, especially because I had not told him everything that was going on between Robert and me, and I felt torn between both men. I told him so, and he said that if this was so, he had to get away from me and we should go on with our separate lives. I can’t believe I’m about to lose him as my best friend, especially when I gave him the opportunities to be together during these years. I know I should have told Joshua to leave me alone because I was already seeing Robert. But still I haven’t been able to make up my mind about which one should I be with. Sometimes I feel it’s the end of the world, and I feel any decision I make will turn out in some loss: I don’t want to lose Joshua and many times I feel I belong with him, to take care of him as I have been doing so far, but every time I’m with Robert I feel this happiness that I simply cannot overlook.
I’m afraid of making the wrong choice: I feel I’ve known Joshua for so long that I know almost everything about him… except the lies and the way he behaves strangely (maybe because of his disorder). And I have not known Robert for so long but he has made me want to feel again…
How can I choose? How can I stop feeling so wrong for any choice I make?
January 1, 2017 at 6:43 pm #124242AnonymousGuestDear Patropomez:
It reads to me that you feel very good about helping Joshua. But have you really helped him? Is his mental situation, his GAD improved because of your involvement in his life? If so, how?
anita
January 1, 2017 at 10:39 pm #124254PatriciaParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
I actually don’t think his GAD has improved because of my involvement in his life. On the contrary, many times I wonder if my involvement is simply a crutch to him, or that it doesn’t allow him to face the circumstances of a sometimes-harsh reality.
I care deeply and understand him, and I always do my best to help him find a solution when a problem arises. But often I find myself wondering when is the emotional rollercoaster going to stabilize, when is he going to learn from his past mistakes and stop doing the same old things that hurt him, when is he going to actually do all the things he always says he’ll do… but he doesn’t. For example, he’s financially unstable because of a wild shopping spree he made a few months ago, and even knowing better, he still goes on buying things he doesn’t actually need. This compromises his ability to fulfill his part of the rent on time, which I don’t mind paying until I see him buy some more stuff he doesn’t need, and it becomes frustrating to remind it to him because he enters a state of worrying and depression of not having enough money…
Similar situations happen in other aspects of life, and eventually he ends up feeling powerless and depressed, so even though I have the best intentions, I think I’ve hardly helped him improve.Why do you ask?
Sincerely,
Particia
January 2, 2017 at 9:01 am #124300AnonymousGuestDear patricia:
I asked if you think that you helped Joshua so far because as I stated at the beginning of my first post to you: “It reads to me that you feel very good about helping Joshua.”
I am thinking you derive some comfort in helping him, in the fact that he is vulnerable and needs help. In the process of helping him, you hurt yourself. For example, you pay his part of the rent (your last post) and you experienced the distress of him acting coldly to you when in public or hiding his texting to his ex girlfriends from you.
But maybe hurting yourself seems worthy for you because of the good, good feeling in helping a vulnerable, struggling individual, Joshua.
If you are not helping him in actuality, in reality and it is your observation and evaluation that over the years with him, there is no improvement in his well being, then that good feeling is not based on reality.
What do you think?
anita
January 4, 2017 at 4:33 am #124479PatriciaParticipantDear Anita,
Thanks again for your reply.
I think you’re right, this feeling is not based on reality. This feeling is based on how when I help him he thanks me for it and temporarily feels better. Maybe I’ve been solving his problems when what I really meant was to help him do it, to support him. He says he has improved… he says he can do other things now… he has quit smoking and stopped doing much of what hurt him in the past, and I’ve been there for better or worse.
The good feeling I have with him is not only about helping him though… it’s about sharing the trust and openness that I have with him, to support each other, although I have to admit thinking there are many times I feel I’m the one supporting him, not the other way around. Somehow, his problems will always be more important than mine because of his condition… maybe it’s selfish for me to say so and that’s why I never do.
Anyway… I don’t know what to do.Patricia
January 4, 2017 at 9:30 am #124501AnonymousGuestDear patricia:
I think it is a good idea for you to consider dissolving this relationship with Joshua. I don’t think it is working FOR you. The good feeling you have believing you are helping him is not enough to make up for the dysfunction of this relationship.
The dysfunction, as I see it, is that even though you believe he is emotionally unwell, needing help, he is the one leading you and the relationship: he is the one who decided it needs to be friends-with-benefits; he is the one who decided to interact with you affectionately when in private and pick up other girls when in public, being distant from you in public. He is the one who decided those things and you went along with him.
If he really was the one who needs mental help, your help, how is it that he is the leader of your life; how is it that he is determining what kind of a relationship you engage in?
Aren’t you, the one you consider the better-able, the helper, the one to lead, and not to follow?
anita
January 5, 2017 at 1:05 am #124597plaxsParticipantHi Patricia,
I agree with Anita.You need to move out and dissolve this un-healthy relationship. He needs professional help for GAD and also his relationship issues. He is leeching off you to be very frank.
1. You are friends “with benefits” – any guy would not want to break that off. No strings attached is like a gold mine for guys like this.
2. You take care of him, pay his rent everything and he still picks other girls and talks to his ex-friends, does not give you the respect you deserve?
3. You are strangers outside and not inside? What are you? That is not a good word for a nice person like you.I was in a relationship where I supported a guy, his family and it was same “with benefits”. End of day, he told me he feared his life would be lost if I married him. I left him that second. He had stopped me from getting married to another by proposing and telling my Dad too. In the end, I was the loser. I was glad I realized it atleast then. This is second instance, first instance, I bought him a $6000 car, paid his mom so she can have an bank account balance etc., He one said “I do not love you”. I had to let go that moment and found courage to get the money atleast some of it back after an year or so.
Reason I am sharing is this – Unhealthy relationships will end up ruining your life. Dissolve this relationship. Get out of there, find a good place where you can have friends and meet up new people. Robert is also not your immediate choice. So do not jump from this to him. Be open, meet different people. Find yourself again. Then the right person will come along. It could be Robert too. Do not let a guy treat you badly.
Best of luck,
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