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March 1, 2015 at 5:07 am #73378Lost GirlParticipant
Hi, I’m a french 24 years old woman. I’m really glad to have found this community and despite the lenght of my story (sorry, I really tried to shorten it), I hope someone will read it and tell me what they think π
OK, so I’ve wanted to live in the US ever since I was a kid. I don’t know why exactly but I was feeling kind of “familiar” with the country. I started learning english at school when I was 6, but it wasn’t like an intense learning of the language, it was more in a playful way. I quickly appeared to be very comfortable with the language. As if I didn’t have to force it. After that, I’ve always been the first in english class and honestly, believe me when I say I never felt like forcing myself or learning or anything.
I know i obviously did but it’s weird, I never felt like I had to learn to know how to speak english. Of course, my level evolved with the time, but I think it came very naturally. Music helped me a lot since I was always translating lyrics to understand what I was listening to, but other than that, I don’t know how it came to me.
I’ve wanted to visit NY when I was about 13 but unfortunately, I never had the money to do so. My eldest sister promised me she would take me there for my 15th birthday but she never kept her promise and in addition to that, she developped a huge plane phobia following my grandfather’s death when I was 14 (he’ been burried abroad and she went there for his funeral, I think that’s where her phobia comes from).
Then when I was in high school, I was planning a roadtrip accross the US with my two best friends but it never happened, none of us had a driver’s licence by the time we finished school, plus we weren’t friends anymore because of some betrayals. Then I thought well, maybe I should apply for being an au pair girl in an american family for a year, but once again I needed a driver’s licence. Then I thought why not studying there but I needed money I didn’t have. And as I was lost and didn’t have any plans, I followed a friend who was moving to london.
I loved the experience so much, the city, the atmosphere, the people, everything. But nothing happened. I couldn’t find a job, I felt like all the ingredients were there but it wasn’t working. Something was missing. 3 months later I resigned myself to go back home, since I was only wasting my family’s money, and I was planning to study film in france the following year.
I absolutely don’t know why I felt like studying film since I’ve always been more into arts. Of course it felt heartbreaking to come back home and leave a city where I just started to bloom, but also to leave my friend.
It took me a very long time to readapt myself to france. I was feeling like a stranger in my own family, I realized they were so closed minded and I tried everything to go back there but it didn’t work.
So I went to college the following year to study film, and even though I wasn’t “that much” into it, I don’t why I didn’t change my main subject to take art, which I could’ve done or even quit and start something else. I think what made me stay is the opportunity we had to study one year abroad the third year. So on my final year, I decided to apply for NY. It took me an entire year to get ready, to prepare the application form, collect the official papers, take (expensive) english tests, take out a student loan which to this day put me in a very complicated situation. But for some reason, the program director didn’t want to help me for NY. She wanted me to apply for LA. I really wasn’t feeling it since I wanted NY or nothing and when she told me she had a spot for me in LA, I refused it.
I regreted it a bit but not that much since I really was seeing myself in New York and not Los Angeles. With hindsight, today I feel like maybe I missed something. But I don’t feel that bad about it which is rare for me.
After college I planned to go back to London with my high school friend who came back in france, but we had a huge fight. Our friendship ended up and I think my heart has never been that broken before.
I gave up London and thought about moving to Montreal. Once again I don’t know why. It was just a project I had with my sister. First thing when I landed there was to compare my feelings to the ones I felt when I moved to London. I wasn’t feeling good in Montreal, I wasn’t feeling in my environment. To me, everything was pushing me back. I was waiting for a transcendental experience which would show me I was in the right place but I quickly started feeling very uncomfortable and lost again. My anxiety came back for the worse, I couldn’t find a job, I didn’t like anything even if I was trying, I’m a very adaptable person but it wasn’t working at all. I was so close to New York and could’ve been there if I wanted to, my sister really wanted us to go but I was always finding excuses not to go, I don’t know why but I think it’s weird since I’ve always wanted to go there. Besides, I was seeing London signs everywhere, I was already “planning” my move there once I get back home and everything… all I was thinking about was London.
Then we learned my uncle passed and the weirdest thing happened to me which got me thinking I lost control of myself. I entered a constant state of panic and very strong anxiety. I HAD to leave. It was the scariest experience I ever had. I felt like I was in a dangerous place and I thought coming back to france would help me. Obviously it didn’t, and going back home felt horrible. I started having panick attacks again, I felt like somebody pushed me into a deep black hole and I couldn’t make my way out. I couldn’t relate to my family anymore, I wasn’t feeling comfortable with them and I was just so lost.
Parallel to all this, strange things happened psychically. I think at this point, a higher level of consciousness opened up to me and in some way, I feel very connected spiritually and I changed a lot mentally. People told me my anxiety disorder makes me believe things, and at first I believed them and I started getting really scared since I thought I was going mad, but I deeply feel this state of mind is real, I feel like a very pure and strong thing is happening inside of me and I have little to nothing to do with it. I’ve always been very sensitive to these things, but this time it’s very different and much stronger.
Ever since i got back, I’m always seeing signs of London and I feel like I have to go there because I didn’t finish what I started when I left. The thing is that I don’t know how and I feel like nothing is happening in this way or showing me the path. When I think about it I start doubting and I’m not so sure of going there. I tell myself maybe it’s not England but the US that I should go to. Because on the other hand, I feel very connected to some place there too and I feel the need to visit certain cities. I can see myself there too. Is it because of some past lives? Maybe it’s the same for London? Or maybe all this doesn’t mean anything and the people around me are right and this is all about anxiety and I’m really crazy? I really don’t know…
Something I thought about too while writing are the “recurent patterns” I notice sometimes. For example, there was this girl I was working with in Montreal who had the same name as a woman I worked with the year before in France and I really got along with both. The first one was pretty much into “signs” and spirituality and the second had lost her husband at the time I lost my aunt that I considered like an extension of my mother and we helped each other a lot. Also my new neighbor in France has the same name as the person I was living at in London and I used to get along with her even if she had a strong character, same with my neighbor who was coincidentally living in NY before and who’s always talking to me about London and telling me I should pursue my dreams.
Anyway, sorry again for the lenght, but what do you think about this huge mess my life is? I need your help.
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March 1, 2015 at 6:46 am #73382KoryParticipantHave you tried making more friends , like that one you had in NY telling you to pursue your dreams? Your story is relatable and you don’t seem unnaturally crazy. However, after hearing your story, I want to say that THE city might not be the answer to your problems. It feels like it, but once you get there, will things really line up?
So have you thought about pursuing art? Or another interest? You said you could of changed your main subject to art or started something else.
Where have you thought about moving to now?
-Kory π
March 1, 2015 at 11:07 am #73388Lost GirlParticipantThanks for your answer Kory π
I know, my life isn’t suddenly going to make sense if I move to another city. You’re right, my life purpose isn’t going to materialize once I’ll move to London or New York, but I definitely think moving will trigger something.
I know the grass isn’t greener on the other side, I experienced it when I moved to Canada and been disappointed because I had so many plans and expectations of how it was going to be. I’m conscious that no place is better than another, but I think some people aren’t born in the right places. I’m not saying my life would’ve been easy and everything if I wasn’t born where I was born but I probably would have feel less alone. I can’t relate to anybody where I am. I am in a dead end and everytime I fall, I come back to my family here and I feel trapped.
I was thinking about moving to London soon but I’m doubting again…March 1, 2015 at 4:59 pm #73393AikiBenParticipantHi lostgirl,
I really enjoyed reading your story. To me your story is packed with spiritual richness, that you are really onto something, I sense you realise this? But do not trust it/yourself? Your story brought so many points to mind which I’d love to make.
Your desire to live in the US and innate ability let’s say with the English language reminded me of Paramahansa Yogananda’s desire to go off to the Himalayas in his book Autobiography of a Yogi (have you read it?). I never used to believe in past life stuff, I thought it was a load of nonsense, but reading that book changed all this for me. Anyway, it’s interesting because just like you he had a strong unexplainable urge to go there and made a number of attempts during his youth to escape to there, but each time he was thwarted. He reckoned he was drawn there by a past life experience, but the thing is in the end he never ended up there so I guess he didn’t really have to go there, i.e. it wasn’t an essential component to his life purpose, as you might put it.
It’s funny how you talk about how you came to study film, that “you don’t know why”. You also say the same thing again for going to Montreal. I recently heard a spiritual teacher talk about how people are often asking for advice from God, praying for answers etc, and claiming not to be receiving any answers, but that actually the truth is being communicated to us in lots of subtle ways all the time. He gave the example of how for instance you might see, in my case a hot looking woman, and that there’s a quick and quiet feeling/voice inside that says, “don’t do it”, and the mind often will then question it, why? why shouldn’t I approach her? etc. But the thing is the truth will never justify itself, it just is. He said that it’s given life a free gift, take it or leave it. Anyway, the point I’m trying to make is that the universal life force if you will is moving through us all the time, we are it. My current spiritual understanding (by no mean infallible) is that “you don’t know why” is perfectly normal. The mind always wants to know (a function of the ego), always wants a reason why, but the higher intelligence is in charge and I’m sure you know by now that you can not reach the spiritual, truth, through the mind. You cannot work it out or get there through your logical reasoning function. From my experience whenever you try to do this you are just stifling the natural movement of life, and this is what I believe is the cause of all our struggles and suffering in life. This is the real meaning of going with the flow, and as it sounds, it’s effortless. However, it is also very difficult to do because it means having complete trust and faith in the universe. This is why you will read about how for spiritual masters life is effortless in this sense. They don’t struggle with life trying to work things out (which incidentally can’t be worked out). I practice Aikido and this is a physical demonstration of this spiritual principle – a few rare times it will happen that someone attacks me and I will throw them and it feels like I didn’t do anything – those times I was told I did it right. However, the majority of the time when someone attacks (life energy comes my way) I TRY to throw them, I struggle a bit, etc, and it just doesn’t work so well. To me it sounds great that at least you have done some of these things (gone with the flow) despite not understanding why, most people probably don’t, I know that for most of my life I haven’t or have at least struggled immensely trying to work things out instead of just letting them happen. To me, all you need to add are the ingredients of faith and trust in the universe and in your process. The book Dying To Be Me by Anita Moorjani helped me massively with this and I’d recommend it to you, it’s a nice read.
The seeing the London signs everywhere is a typical example of what happens when something is on your subconscious mind, it can result in selective seeing in your environment of anything associated with the object of your current desire.
Although you call your life a mess, I would call it a wonderful mess, and I think that is exactly the way life is meant to be. I think that the vast vast majority of people try to reduce the amount of chaos in their lives as much as possible, establish as much constancy and consistency as possible to get those things called security and control (an illusion of the ego). However, by doing this we stifle life. I saw the truth of this about 6 months ago in a certain situation I was in at the time. I really think that most people are effectively dead, they are living but they are not alive in the truest sense, because they have tried to remove themselves from the flow of life (whose nature is unpredictable) and in doing so have removed life itself. I guess this is one of the aspects of separation that spiritual people speak of.
Regarding things not ‘working out’ the first time round in London: “To everything there is a season”. To me there seems a perfect flow to your life story. It may just be that being in London the first time was to put the fire inside you to want to come back, but that the time wasn’t yet ripe for you to stay, that you first had to go through some other things first or/and certain things had to come into place, be set up for you. To me it’s all about trusting the almighty hand, maybe’s he/she is setting things up for you.
Lastly, “Trust Thyself” – Ralph Waldo Emerson. I really don’t think you’re going crazy. It sounds to me from your words that you have a sense that you know something perfectly non-crazy is happening, that again you just need to trust it, trust your own sense about it rather than the words of others. Most people will without doubt say something like that, i.e. maybe you should see someone, that’s it’s some mental dysfunction. People not on the spiritual path will never be able to comprehend such happenings, they cannot. By the same token (and I’m having equal difficulty with this one), as you start to progress in your spirituality, raise your awareness or vibration as some might say, you will start to experience an almighty chasm developing between yourself and family members as they remain in old (commonplace) awareness mode. Again, just as for your opening up experience, any higher knowledge, understanding, ideas, anything, will be incomprehensible to family, or rather only comprehensible at their current level of awareness, so whilst on the surface (intellectually) they will understand, they won’t really understand if that makes sense. It can be extremely frustrating and I’m learning that it’s best not to share it with them. This might sound like the wrong thing to do for some, but I now see that I cannot show them the light as it were, each person must seek it themselves, if they come asking for advice that’s another matter, but I then have to be very careful at giving it according to their current understanding – I’ve not been doing this well at all lately. If you need to talk about higher matters then do it only through equally enlightened individuals (friends/teachers), otherwise much frustration will ensue.
It’s funny, regarding your London situation, I for the last 8 months have had an identical thing for moving somewhere. For much of that time I’ve been trying to work out (I know lol) whether the desire is coming from my heart or from my mind (i.e. universal director or ego desire). You see, I didn’t want to fall into the trap which korkor has made allusion to above – am I just seeking happiness outside myself, in a place, after all the ‘kingdom of God is within’. However, more and more and after much meditation and coming to the conclusion that it’s the right thing for me to do. It’s an example of what on the surface seems like a paradox, which you often come across in spirituality. Yes, you don’t have to go anywhere to find what you are really looking for in life, to find truth, however, I believe that doesn’t mean that you should enforce upon yourself not to go anywhere because you ‘don’t need to’. Again, it’s about not stifling the life force. All I know is that the sense to go keeps arising in me and I’m now getting to a point where I believe I need to let go and do it, I think it will happen in the next few weeks in fact. By the way, clarity has come by stopping trying to work it out and just getting on with life, making more decisions, even if might be the ‘wrong thing’. The clarity has come by allowing myself to keep moving, to keep flowing. It will be interesting to see what happens if/when we both go for it here. For so long I’ve been wanting to jump into the boat of the unknown of following the heart, I’ve read how life flows form this, that one thing will lead to another, things that you’d never guessed come into your life, through the process of allowing. I’m in the process of allowing the allowing and I’m quite excited!
Normally I’d proofread, but that was a long reply and it’s late π
Ben.
March 2, 2015 at 10:49 am #73426Lost GirlParticipantHi Ben,
First off, thank you very much for taking the time to answer me with so much attention. Your answer is full of knowledge and very good advices. It helps me a lot to have other opinions like yours.
To answer your first question, it’s true I do believe something is happening to me, whether it’s a spiritual awakening or something like that but I don’t know how to take it. I’m trying to go with the flow with it, but sometimes it’s so overwhelming and intertwined with anxiety (that maybe is caused by it, I don’t know) that I tend to fear it and want to go back to my old self, when I was aware of all that and interested but wasn’t feeling so much concerned since I wasn’t living it.
I haven’t read the book you’re talking about here, which seems to be an interesting read, but I documented myself a bit about past lives which, just like for you, sounded ridiculous to me a few years ago. But with the time, when I look back, it’s like my mind has slowly opened itself to so many things. I totally believe in it today, especially when I read about all these kids who remember their past lives. My cousin’s daughter seem to know some stuffs too. She’s 4 years old, and everytime she’s drawing me, she draws a baby in my belly, a big heart and a forest. She always does. And when I asked her why once, she said I “used to” have a baby girl. But that’s another story… As you said, if the feeling of belonging somewhere else is there, I don’t really know if it means it’s necessary to go there. Maybe it’s just a part of who I am and that’s it.
I also believe it’s true that if you pray for something, it’s not going to happen literally, but you’ll be indirectly guided towards it or be given an opportunity to “make it happen” yourself. I’ll always remember a quote in Bruce Almighty – I know the reference isn’t very brilliant lol – when God says something like “If someone prays for patience, is God going to give them patience or an opportunity to be patient?” and that’s exactly what’s happening. I agree when you say it’s a part of us anyway. Things happen through us, voluntarily or not.
My “I don’t know” phases do sound like I’m the kind of person who goes wih the flow, but I really don’t. Lately I’ve been trying to since I’ve been through some very hard times and questionning every single thing was just causing more questionning, doubt, stress, anxiety, fear and it was way too tiring. When I find myself doing it, I try to go back to the present moment but it’s a hard thing to remember when you drift away in your mind. Especially for me, I’ve always been obsessively weighing the pros and the cons to everything, from buying an apple to chosing a field of study. My sister is always saying she’s glad not to be inside my head when I’m trying to make a decision, I think it shows you how hard it is to go with the flow for me. It’s just that certain things presented themselves to me and the idea started growing in my mind and then it becomes something I feel like I have to do because I see it as a door that is going to lead me somewhere. And this way to see things comes more naturally for me now. I tend to let things happen and see where it takes me, when I’m not forced adapt the situation for someone else, which is precisely one of my concerns lately. Being surrounded by people you don’t feel connected to can be a very hard thing.
Talking about my first time in London, as you’re saying, I also believe it wasn’t the right moment at the time. Because when I look back, I wasn’t the same person at all, and I would’ve done certain things differently like listening to myself expressing myself more. I think things would’ve been different if I wasn’t trying to please everyone around me back then. Today I absolutely don’t care if what I do doesn’t please my family, but they still have some hold on me and we’re on totally different wavelenght so it’s like we speak different languages, that’s why I’m trying to detach myself from them (without forgetting that they’re my family, even if they hurt me sometimes). The gap between us is getting bigger with the time and I don’t even feel the need to explain myself to them anymore since they don’t understand. They call it selfishness and apathy when I try to go my own way, and as you say, since we’re not on the same path, it’s even more difficult to get along with them. I don’t think I’ll ever talk about it all with them since they could never get it unless they experience the same thing and it can’t come from nobody but themselves.
The thing you said about finding the truth is funny because there’s a certain artist I admire a lot who approaches everything he does like a quest for the truth and he always say that we should always seek it. That’s what I’m trying to do and I trust you when you say that if I feel like I should be somewhere else to find it, I should go for it (in other words lol). I hope you’ll find the answer to your moving question as well and I think that by simply moving forward, maybe things will fit together naturally and enlighten the path to follow. At least that’s what I hope for you and me too!
March 5, 2015 at 5:45 am #73571AikiBenParticipantIt would be really interesting if we both returned to this post a year from now to report on what happens.
In my last response I didn’t comment on your coincidences with the people you met, neighbours etc. Again, a few yrs ago I would have dismissed it, but now, when I see coincidences like this, that are almost humorous, I see God playing. I’ve read enough times how enlightened individuals say there are no coincidences. More and more I am coming to this myself. Now, even when ‘bad’ things happen, e.g. I miss a train (like I did yesterday, and then I had to buy a second expensive ticket), there is a trust in me developing that it’s all OK.
A few times, even though I knew I suspected inside it was the wrong thing to do, because I so wanted my parents to see what I could see I attempted to explain some of my plans at the time. The result confirmed what I’ve read about not throwing the gold that you’ve discovered down the drain, they could not grasp at all the essence I was trying to convey. All I did was hurt myself and probably look foolish and naΓ―ve in their eyes because I know how the old me of several years ago would have judged what I was saying. So, I think you’re doing the right thing in not talking on this level with them.
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March 5, 2015 at 11:38 am #73594Lost GirlParticipantFunny that you’re talking about that missed train, I was supposed to go to a concert I was very excited about tonight but couldn’t because of technical problems and I got home and saw your mail. I don’t know why I couldn’t make it to the show since I really wanted to, but I guess there must be a reason. I was very upset and disappointed, but then I realized I’ll probably have other occasions.
I only know one person with who I can vaguely talk about all that and that’s fine for now. Other than that, nobody would understand and I think it’s not a bad thing since it’s better to keep things that matter to you only for yourself. And if it helps me moving on with my life in a better state of mind, I’d rather not let anyone interfere with that.
I think it would be great to go back to this conversation in a year and see where we are on our journeys. I hope I’ll be happy with my life at that time, but if I’m not then I guess that’s just the way it has to be.
March 8, 2015 at 5:36 am #73675AikiBenParticipantHey,
I just wanted to bring something up. A couple of things you’ve said gave me the impression it might be useful, and that is that there is no way to happiness, happiness is the way, I got that from Wayne Dyer. I think a lot of people are always looking to the horizon, at the next thing, that when you arrive there you will be happy, but the thing is it’s like chasing a rainbow, there is no arriving. No particular set of circumstances etc can give you what you seek. Are you doing this at all? I get the impression you might be from some of the things you said that’s all.
I’ve been aware of the above quote intellectually for a few years, but it’s only the last few months that it’s really starting to sink in to the point that it’s giving me liberation. Concerning my big move that I mentioned, I realised that I had some of this mode of thinking wrapped up in the decision. I now think that although I feel good things will come of it and there’ll be great adventure and great times, it won’t give me what I truly want, it can’t fill that thing inside me, how could it, it’s inside me so nothing outside can fill that.
However, for me, doing this move is simply part of my inner path, part of the letting go. I’m doing my best to let go of expecting to get anything in particular out of it though. The inner answers are coming incidentally if that makes sense (i.e. regardless of my circumstances). Happiness, liberation, etc are developing inside me as a result of my meditating daily and looking within. I can’t tell you how liberating it is to let go of the idea that I have to go somewhere or do something to find ‘it’. This really takes the pressure off. As soon as you get even a hint of an idea in your head that everything’s gonna be great when I get to this particular place or am doing this particular thing (e.g. job) then I notice it creates a tension/anxiety inside me (very subtle- something that you may only pick up on in deep meditation) because of the dependence I’ve created on this thing giving me happiness. So somewhere inside me floating around is the message that I cannot be 100% happy until I am there or doing that, again it may be a very subtle message, but it has a lot of power. (Hmmm, it certainly benefits me just to write about this as it clarifies things for me more sharply.)
This brings me back to my first message. I feel, yes by all means follow your feeling of where to go and what to do next, but be careful about the above.
I’m in a similar boat with regard to people who I can talk to. Currently I have a few friends (who I’m grateful to have) who I can talk about things a little, but not fully, not to the level I’ve written above. However, I do anticipate that people more like-minded to myself will come into my life fairly soon, it’s only natural. I’m sure they will for you too when the time is right.
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March 8, 2015 at 1:15 pm #73682Lost GirlParticipantI used to be one of those who thought their life would be fixed the moment they’ll move somewhere or something. I experienced it and I realized I was completely wrong since I was trying hard to make things happen instead of going with the flow and letting them happen and nothing positive was happening. But now it’s different.
I think I’ve mentioned this before but it is clear that I’ve reached a point in my life where I did everything I had to do where I am. There’s nothing left for me here. The more I stay here, the less I am myself. And today I know what I need and it’s getting out of here. I need to find myself in a totally different place, no matter where it is, where I’ll make my own decisions, live my own experience etc. without having to undergo a toxic environment because it’s like someone is taking my life away from me little by little and it became unbearable. My life isn’t mine where I am.Now I know moving to London or somewhere else won’t bring me happiness as you said since what matters is the journey, not the destination. I’m conscious of all that and I really don’t idealize how things will turn out. But I’m ready for the journey, more than ever. I know I’ll have my ups and downs and I’ll probably feel a lot of the same feelings I am feeling today, but at least I’ll be free to go my own way and I need to feel like I am responsible for what happens in my life to live it fully. I just feel the urge to do something on my own and I’m open to everything that could happen to me, good or bad.
As you said, I know the right people will come into my life when it’ll be time, just like the right events.. On your side, I’m sure your mindset will take you exactly where you need to be.
March 9, 2015 at 9:24 am #73743AikiBenParticipantThat sound great. I underestimated your level of awakeness. I really empathise with your words. You can feel what is wrong in your situation, just as I have in the past, for myself I have not listened to/trusted my own feelings so often, it’s nice to hear that you are listening and are prepared to act.
From your first reply to me you reminded me SO MUCH of myself. I thought to myself, you sound like the female equivalent of me, except your academic interests appear to be the polar opposite (psychologically speaking) to myself: you seem to be more into the arts (music, film etc), whereas I studied the sciences. Although interestingly, psychometric tests have said that my natural abilities are more associated with people working in the arts than in science – funnily enough I’ve always had a sense of this in many aspects of myself.
I get the feeling you are of a very similar vibration to myself (don’t like using that overused word in spirituality but it just fits well). I wanted to suggest swapping emails before to keep in touch for reporting back in the future on how our next steps go, but since I am in general a very private person I didn’t really want to put my email address on an open forum like this, but as I’m choosing to make decisions not from fear but from love these days: wardzinski_ben@live.co.uk Please drop me an email, it would be great to keep in touch! I’d love to tell you more about my planned adventures, how it all came about, etc, and I’d love to hear more about yours. There’s so much I could share with you because you understand.
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