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  • #216867
    Delta
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    A typical “mommy issues” story, really.

    The more I try to figure myself out, the more I realise that all my problems come from never having learned how to be female. I see my friend and she has such a lovely relationship with her mother, and you can tell straight away she’s comfortable in her body, comfortable being a woman.

    My mother had a very old school catholic upbringing which she transferred onto me too. I was never “girly” enough for her and any excitement  shared about adventures and similar “boy” behaviours were quickly nipped in the bud. Ironically, when I was in puberty and started menstruating, she made me realise it’s something to hide, not talk about with others, and god forbid anyone visiting should see (clean) pads exhibited in sight in our bathroom. She indirectly taught me to hate my body because she always whined about hers. My older sister was exhibiting the same behaviour, so I literally had no sane female person to look up to.

    When I told her I like a boy, she warned me about mononucleosis. When I was showing leadership skills, she taught me not to because that means I’ll be the first to blame when things go wrong. When I started dating my first boyfriend in late high school, she made me anxious about becoming pregnant. I couldn’t have sex with my first love without constantly panicking about possible pregnancy although we used protection and I was even on the pill too.  I truly believe this is how I got ‘pcos’ too. Purely on account of that “I musn’t stay pregnant” chant.

    Basically, here I am, in my 31st wondering what the hell this woman ever taught me that was good for me.

    I don’t feel like I’m feminine enough. From my attitudes to my body and looks. I dislike my thin body. I dislike my face, my hair, my serious character and the fact that I’m not fun enough. On a few occassions people told me I’m beautiful. I don’t see that and it doesn’t happen “often enough” to start believing it. My boyfriend is not the reassuring type so I rarely hear it from him too, which doesn’t help the cause either.

    I handle pms ridiculously bad, on top of pcos, so those times in a month are a nightmare for both me and my boyfriend because I’m impossible to live with. (Current mood, obviously).

    I’m struggling with pretty bad anxiety and obsessive negative thoughts.

    I have a hard time staying friends with women because I don’t trust them.

    I’m a mess! And I’m sick of it.

    I really need to know that there’s a way I can change all this, please help.

    Thank you.

     

    #217041
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Delta:

    You wrote, “I have a hard time staying friends with women because I don’t trust them”-

    as harmful as your mother’s expressed attitude about femininity and sex, there is no betrayal of trust in it, is there? I mean you could trust her attitude to be consistent over time.

    I am wondering then, if there was something about your mother that was not trustworthy?

    anita

     

    #217043
    Anonymous
    Guest

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    #217095
    Delta
    Participant

    Hey Anita,

    I’d say she is consistent, yes. But I think trust issue stems from not being a part of my mom’s and older sister’s “clique”. They were always siding, and I was the black sheep., the immature child, not good enough etc. Sometimes I needed her to be on my side, especially because I’m the younger child, and she rarely was. I was clearly not preferred or equal.

    #217235
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Delta:

    I would like to understand better before I reply further, therefore I ask, can you elaborate on “My older sister was exhibiting the same behavior”, what behavior or behaviors?

    anita

    #217247
    Vidya
    Participant

    I would only say that there is expiry date to blaming people in your life for where you end up. At 31, you are way past that age. Look around you, people with way more challenges rise up. I would only say that instead of dissecting your mother’s and sister’s behavior minutely, accept it if you cannot change it. You can only work on yourself, so work on yourself and make yourself a great person to accept things as they are.

    People live in different times which shape their worldview. Your mom has lived big chunk of her life without you being born, and a lot of her views come from a time you were not even present. Don’t beat her too much because she couldn’t change with time or didn’t had much intellect to do so. Its easier to whine, but its painful to walk in someone’s shoe and see why they are behaving the way they do.

    V

    #217271
    Delta
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Sorry I’m not making much sense. I’m not a native english speaker, plus it’s a lot of emotional stuff I just threw out here. My sister basically did everything like mom. And my point was that I couldn’t learn any better from her either.

     

    Vidya, not sure if you’re an offended mother or if this is seriously how you give advice. “I would only say that there is expiry date to blaming people in your life for where you end up. At 31, you are way past that age. Look around you, people with way more challenges rise up.” -That’s some motivation. Hope you don’t go around giving that advice to depressed people, to “look around” and feel inspired by others who rise up. And maybe throw a bit of “snap out of it” in there too.

     

     

    #217339
    Delta
    Participant

    I don’t see options for deleting, so admins can delete this.

    Thank you.

    #217341
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Delta:

    I am sorry you are having an unpleasant experience here. I too would have been upset if I received such input as you had.

    I would like to communicate with you further when I am back to the computer in about twelve hours or so,  but if you want your thread deleted, you can click CONTACT on top and request the deletion there.

    Best wishes to you.

    anita

    #217383
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Delta:

    I am glad your thread is still here and hope you will be reading my reply.

    You shared that your friend is comfortable in her body, comfortable being a woman. She has a lovely relationship with her mother. On the other hand, you feel uncomfortable in your body, uncomfortable being a woman, uncomfortable with your “serious character”, and being “not fun enough”. Your relationship with your mother is  not lovely.

    Your mother criticized you for these things, directly and indirectly: not being girly, being excited about boys’ adventures, behaving like a boy, showing leadership skills,  menstruating at puberty, having a female body (“she always whined about hers”), dating, sex.  You suffer from pms and pcos, “bad anxiety and obsessive negative thoughts”, and your boyfriend “is not the reassuring type”, you don’t trust women.

    Your mother and your older sister were a clique, and you were the outsider, the one picked on, the immature one, the one not good enough. You were “the black sheep” (definition: a member of a family or group who is regarded as a disgrace to them/someone who does not fit in with the rest of the group and is often considered a troublemaker or an embarrassment)

    My input: there are two things here: one is your mother’s (and older sister’s) views on all aspects of being a female/woman (the body, to facial expressions, behavior, dating, sex), the second thing is family bullying. I figure your mother can’t help her views. I wish she was insightful enough, understanding enough to not express her views, at least not so generously (I suppose she couldn’t help, let’s say, having a certain expression on her face at any one time).

    But the second thing, the bullying, that is an intentional campaign of aggression against you, a war of sorts, they against you. Nothing of your doing, or being, none of it is your fault. Bullying you has been your mother’s way to relieve herself from her anger, anger at someone else (maybe her husband, maybe her own parents). Like any other abuse, the abuser relieves herself from distress by inflicting it on another. Often a parent relieves her distress by inflicting it on her own child.

    No wonder you don’t trust women, you can’t (and shouldn’t) trust your own mother.

    I had a similar experience to yours: my mother’s attitude regarding womanhood was very disturbed and disturbing. My mother also abused me, only she did it all on her own (not siding with another person). I also felt uncomfortable in my body and I didn’t trust women.

    Back to you: if you are still interacting with your mother and sister, and still treated in any way, shape or form as the black sheep, I think you should end all contact with either one and with the two of them. If you are able to attend psychotherapy with a capable therapist, that would be best. The shame your mother instilled in you has to  be addressed and resolved as much as is possible.

    Somehow, I hope you get to a place where you believe that the way you were treated is not an indication of you deserving that treatment, that you were a victim of family bullying.

    I hope you post again. I like your assertiveness with the other member, by the way and hope there will not be another post in your thread of that kind, unsupportive and cruel, really.

    anita

    #217537
    Arisha
    Participant

    Dear Delta,

    I’m from an Islamic, Pakistani family and I relate completely to your troubles.

    First of all, it is not a “mommy issues story”, it is the story of thousands of women who are treated and held accountable

    for being born a woman. Your mother was also a victim of this toxic mentality and you too are a victim.

    Your mother has been a toxic presence in your life and passed her on Insecurities and fears onto you, unintentionally. You wouldn’t be wrong to turn away from her if that’s where your comfort lies. However, forgiveness is more nurturing.

    Your mother is the root cause of that nagging, toxic voice in your head and as hard as it is, you must ignore that voice and tell it to be quiet. For example, if you are looking yourself in the mirror and the voice in your mind is saying “you look bad” , respond with “shut up voice, I’m beautiful.” This was taught to me by a friend who took therapy and it may seem ridiculous and childish but evantually the voice will vanish. You won’t notice it as much and you’ll feel lighter without it.

    Yours sincerely,

    Arisha

    #217725
    Delta
    Participant

    Anita, thank you for your response and trying to find out more, I really appreciate it.

    I don’t feel like I’m being picked on anymore, although my mom’s attitudes remain and we’ll never have the relationship where I can tell her what’s bothering me and ask her for advice. She’s unfortunately very negative and pessimistic in such situations and it gave me loads of anxiety in life. My older sister is quite vain and still has to be “the best”. I don’t care anymore. Although on surface we all have ok relationships, it left a lot in me to deal with and it annoys me.  I actually moved 2000 km away, 5 years ago. 😉 That was not my reason for leaving, but I do feel a bit lighter knowing I’m on my own here and that they can’t meddle.

    Therapist is not an option for me at the moment because they’re ridiculously expensive here. I was taking antidepressants for a few years but quit because I don’t like pharmaceuticals and ofcourse after quitting it’s back to how it was before. So I’m trying to find a better way to cope. So sorry to hear you were abused. How are you coping with this, if I may ask?

    #217727
    Delta
    Participant

    Arisha you’re absolutely right in everything you said. I’m very much aware of the reasons she was the way she was. Everyone has a burden but it’s about how they deal with it.

    As Anita pointed out

    Bullying you has been your mother’s way to relieve herself from her anger, anger at someone else (maybe her husband, maybe her own parents). (Both actually!) Like any other abuse, the abuser relieves herself from distress by inflicting it on another.

    I’m aware my mom didn’t do all this because she’s horrible, but I’m disappointed that she didn’t have “the wits” to see that she’s doing a lot of damage to her child.

    And thank you very much for your advice. It is a simple one but that’s why it could work. I agree it’s important to be kind to yourself.

     

    #217807
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Delta:

    You are welcome and I am glad to read from you. You asked me how I am coping (with having been abused by my mother). Like you I moved far away from her, thousands of kilometers/ miles away. Unfortunately, I went back to visit her, weeks or more at a time, over the years, and she came to visit me. Those visits with her undid all progress I made when away from her. It took for me to cut all contact with her five years ago to make it possible for me to make progress and keep that progress going.

    By progress I mean healing, healing from the consequences of the abuse. Away from my mother, her mental representative in my brain was still talking to me, of course. Our parents, particular the one most present and most powerful in our lives as children, has a mental representative in our brain, as adults. And we cannot put a single meter of distance in between us and that mental representative.

    Healing takes being Mindful. Developing the skill of mindfulness has been a big part of my first quality psychotherapy 2011-2013. Being mindful of, or paying attention (in other words) to that mental representative, to what it says (thoughts) and the feelings involved with those thoughts is crucial to healing. This is a beginning. I will be glad to share more over time, during a back and forth communication, if you would like.

    anita

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