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February 17, 2014 at 5:58 pm #51202FionaLightParticipant
Hi, I’ve recently come across the Tiny Buddha forum and I’m really hoping some of you can give me some perspective here. I’ve been in a relationship with this guy for the last 6 years. I’m 45, he’s 38. I make a fair amount of money in the financial sector, he makes less but still a decent living as he runs a web solutions firm employing half a dozen staff. Throughout our relationship, I’ve always footed most of the bills: he never asks how much I’m paying in rent, utilities etc but seems to just accept the fact that I’m paying. Once in a while he will pay for groceries, restaurant meals and my car servicing – but nothing big. Recently we bought a house together – or more precisely, I paid the down payment, paid for most of the renovations and am now servicing the monthly mortgage. He paid for some of the furniture and a small part of the renovations, but he refers to the house as “our house” and tells everyone we bought it together. He apologised to me for not being able to pay more because he said he needed to help his father pay off enormous debts (& I do know that his dad is a bad businessman who’s had several failed businesses). What has really caused me to feel lost, confused and angry are the following things. Around the same time we moved into our new house, he fell sick. He was quite sick for a while and I was the caregiver throughout that period. I got very stressed out, but worst of all was that during that time, I discovered – through messages I happened to see on his cellphone – that he’d been cheating on me with another, younger woman for more than half a year – essentially during the time we wee planning to buy the house, when we were renovating it, when I was paying for it! When I confronted him, he kept denying that he’d cheated on me and kept insisting that they’re just friends, even though the messages were about how they missed each other, couldn’t wait to see each other and jump into each other’s arms etc. Eventually he made some half-admissions (“I was never unfaithful to you in my heart”) and we decided to stay in our relationship. But it’s like the discovery of the affair has opened my eyes to his true nature, and now I look at the things he does and question myself if he is a selfish manipulative person. Example 1: he wanted to hold his motorcycle club meeting in our house and asked me if I could either stay in our bedroom or “go out to do something”. I said I would go out to the gym but asked if the club meeting could end by a certain time. He got into a huff and said he would just go rent a meeting room instead – which he did, and then he sulked about it for a few days afterwards, pulling a sad face and telling me he felt “sad”. When I asked him to tell me why he felt “sad”, he refused and said he was too busy to talk, he would tell me “in a few days’ time” etc. Example 2: I recently found out that he got his dad to sign as a guarantor for a business loan he took. I was shocked becos he’d always said his dad is in huge debt, but he brushed my objections aside saying it’s done already and anyway he has no intention of defaulting on the loan or making his dad pay. Now I look at him and wonder whether he’s just a master manipulator. The thing is, in everyday life he’s a supremely charming and affectionate guy who’ll often cook me elaborate meals and display a lot of affection. But now I wonder how much of that is conscious manipulation. It seems to me now that whenever things don’t do exactly as he wants (like the club meeting incident), he’ll do something to make himself look like the victim/martyr and tell me how sad he feels – & then keep me in suspense by refusing to explain why he feels “sad”. Also, he likes to accuse me of giving too much time and attention to my job – which makes me furious becos he doesn’t acknowledge that it’s my job that pays for the nice house we live in! I don’t know what to do now. Confronting him doesn’t seem an option becos he always turns himself into the wronged party and does something dramatic like walking out of the house which puts an end to any discussion. At the same time I feel like I’ve invested so much of myself in this relationship for 6 years – & at 45, I don’t want to start all over again. I feel very lost.
February 17, 2014 at 10:41 pm #51239MarkParticipantFionaLight,
I invite you to read what you posted. If your best friend wrote this, what would you say to her?I do know for most of us, it is easier to be with our pain then to face our fear and leap into the unknown. It is easier to be with the familiar.
What does your true heart say to you? What would you do if you truly loved yourself?
Metta,
MarkFebruary 18, 2014 at 1:21 am #51242AnyoneParticipantHi Fiona,
I agree with Mark……Also….
Sorry for what you’re going through.
I have been through similar situation and the difference was I was married to this guy. I used to be the one paying for the rent, grocery, day-to-day expenses, etc. Once we were required to visit his parents for an occassion and he asked me to pay for the travel expenses, when I questioned why would he want me to pay for it, he started torturing me to do household stuffs and many things. Then started the fights. And well, he had already cheated on me in the beginning of the marriage (via online chats at midnight while I was sleeping) and didn’t admit it nor that it won’t happen again. Anyways, gradually I realized that this marriage was for some purpose.
In your case:
It does seem that he is manipulating you. He seems to be in this relation for some selfish ulterior motive. May be money. You would be better able to figure it out.Hope the house you bought is in your name only!
You should take a call on this relation as soon as possible.
Blessings and wisdom to you !
February 18, 2014 at 11:35 am #51266KellyParticipantFiona,
I got a sick feeling in my gut reading your story because it is hauntingly familiar. I am about three months out of my three year relationship. Take this with a grain of salt because I am still healing from my loss – your boyfriend sounds more like a child than a man. I too had the partner who charmed, cooked, pampered, provided endless affection and attention but he exhibited very similar passive-aggressive and selfish behaviors to what you’re describing. He had, at the very least, an emotional affair I discovered with a much younger woman. He has still not admitted to it, but instead tried various ways of invalidating my feelings: it’s due to my “trust issues”, he can’t believe I don’t know who he really is after everything we’ve been through together, he didn’t have the motivations I assume he had (similar to the “I was never unfaithful in my heart”). I don’t know if your story would play out the same, but for me I spent a full year or more trying to work with him and resolve our communication issues and disparity between our levels of responsibility within the relationship. (I saw him go through three jobs in this time period as I, like you, footed the bulk of our expenses). My frustrations were exacerbated with every new “incident” we had, and pretty soon the “incidents” (similar to your two examples) were coming one after the other without much of the sweet, charming, fun, everyday life stuff in between.
I, too, looked at the great investment I had made in this relationship. Someone asked me a pretty simple question: what kind of return was I getting on my investment? You work in the financial sector – is this an investment worthy of you? There are sunk costs – would you just be throwing good money after bad to reap anything out of this? I’m sorry to make an emotional decision so black and white because I know it’s a lot more complicated when it comes to matters of the heart. Something to consider.
I agree wholeheartedly with Mark’s comment that it’s easier to be with our pain than to leap into the unknown. But what if by holding off from making that leap, you’re missing out on someone who could compliment you in all the ways you want and deserve? Maybe that “someone” is you, loving and cherishing yourself and not settling for less than you deserve. I know starting over is not easy – I keep myself inspired by reading love stories of others who meet later in life (and, please, at 45 you have half your life ahead of you!). Maybe it’s time to fall in love with you again. That might sound like hippy dippy stuff, but it’s the realization I’ve come to for myself. I believe that my ex-boyfriend loved me with all he had, but that love just wasn’t right for me. Wouldn’t you like to be able to confront your partner and have your feelings heard? I long for that and I just got fed up feeling like I had no voice in the relationship. My boyfriend was the classic deflector as well.
Anyway, I’m rambling. You have to find your own truth – my comments are based on my own experience. It just seemed on the surface, at least, to mirror your own. I wish you the best in whatever you do regarding this relationship.
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