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  • #359406
    Shini13
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    Hi, Im a 29 year old female and currently I am in a shaky relationship with a 26 year old guy. Its going to be almost 2 years im with this guy. Let’s just name him S. Before I got into a relationship with S I was in an abusive relationship and I managed to get out of it and than S approached me through a social media. Initially S was respectful due to my age. Eventually S opened up and told me that he’s into me. We got close and S had to go campus for his final paper. The moment he left n landed, I received a few messages and after that no even a message even he was since active on all the social apps. So considering all this I thought he took advantage of my vulnerable state of mind just to pass the time with me. So I tried to move on by meeting friends which are mostly guy friends as I have very less girl friends. So S came back n avoided me for few days n suddenly pops up out of nowhere to meet. So me being madly in love n unable to let go. Ran to him. So from there we started our relationship and became extremely close. As we got close things got bad. He became possessive and insecured as I have shared my past to him abit of it. So i did all i could to make him feel safe. But didn’t work he started checking my hp & etc. He got to know I met my friends when he was away and accused me of cheating him. So I went through all the terrible part of getting accused and totally disconnected from everyone n it was only him and my family. Everyday we’ll meet and slowly this changed as he started getting busy with work. And it became terrible he didn’t want to meet and gave all excuses to spend time with me as he joined a new job where he works extensively from 8am to 9pm where he finds it so hard to msg me too. I tried explaining to him and it became a huge issue but when I have anything important such as family members birthday he would create an issue to be with me. So this kept going on. Than we went for a vacation and he was the best version I saw in that 5 days. But become we left i went through hell and almost cancelled it. Things was fine when we came back. And than suddenly he said he’s having some family issue which late last year n wanted to break up. He did all he cn to keep me away blocked n etc. Finally I gave up and wanted to move on. So I went to gt a tattoo n again I brought my guy friend to accompany me. Out of a sudden he called me and got to know this. I got bashed and insulted terribly for this. I begged him and stayed with him. And things went really bad. He insulted my family members n etc. Too cut it short. All went on n same issue again I asked him to spend time as I was missing him due to the mco. He got agitated insulted me and wanted to break up which was early last month. Till today he’s dragging the issue. He wanted to break up bt he doesn’t wana let me go now. He threatens me insults and etc. I wan to let go bt i cnt. I feel so terrible and he knows exactly how to make me feel terrible. I duno what should I do. I have lost myself. My life has been only him family n work. I’m not allowed to do anything else. Even if I go out he finds it.. Im in trouble. I’m scared of him. Even I block him o anything he gets his way through. But I’m also unable to hurt him. I duno how to face this issue. Please help me. I understand I am also a reason.

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    #359445
    Anonymous
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    Der Shini13:

    You shared that you (woman, 29) are in a 2 year relationship with S (man, 26). Sometime after the start of the relationship he moved to his university campus for a final paper and soon after stopped messaging you. While he was gone you got together with your friends, mainly male friends. When he returned from his campus, he didn’t try to see you for a few days, and then messaged you that he wants to meet you. You agreed because you were “madly in love and unable to let go” of him. He then became possessive, accusing you of cheating on him with your male friends while he was away.

    Because of his accusations, you “totally disconnected from everyone and it was only him and my family”. Next he got a job where he worked for 13 hours a day, 8am- 9pm, so he wasn’t available for you except when you had family birthday events and such, then he “would create an issue to be with me”-

    1.  Can you explain to me what you mean by him creating an issue to be with you: did he not want you to go the birthday party, or did he want to go with you to the party?

    Late last year he wanted to break up with you because of “some family issue”, and he blocked you. While blocked, you went to get a tattoo with a male friend, and when he found out about it, he called you, “bashed and insulted” you and your family terribly. When he did that, you “begged and stayed with him”, and the two of you remained in this troubled relationship.

    2. Can you tell  me how he found out that you went to get a tattoo with a male friend of yours?

    Last month, May 2020 he insulted you again and wanted to break up with. “Till today he’s dragging the issue.. He threatens me insults and etc.”-

    3. What are his threats and what are his insults? What is the “etc.”: what else is he doing to you?

    “I feel so terrible and he knows exactly how to make me feel terrible. I duno what I should do. I have lost myself”- I hope you find yourself very soon, that you will feel better and better and that you will end this troubled and abusive relationship as soon as possible.

    I hope to read your answers to my questions, and will reply to you further.

    anita

     

    #359476
    Shini13
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thanks for the reply.

    1.  Can you explain to me what you mean by him creating an issue to be with you: did he not want you to go the birthday party, or did he want to go with you to the party

    He never liked me going for the birthday party and usually creates a havoc or fight so that I will not go for the party. If I insist on going he will start sending me messages & threaten me he will go out with others .

    2. Can you tell  me how he found out that you went to get a tattoo with a male friend of yours?

    Well it was me. I finished my tattoo & he kept calling me multiple times & sent me email that he needed his documents which is in my car for his new  job. So I answered his calls, told him im out  & he started harassing me over the phone. He wanted his documents & wanted me to pass it over. The moment I went over , he became very violent & punched me asking me the details on the tattoo & with whom i went to get it. I didn’t tell him the details since I was in fear  & told I went alone but he called the tattoo studio & got the information . It was a huge havoc.

    3. What are his threats and what are his insults? What is the “etc.”: what else is he doing to you?

    His threatens me that he wants to sleep around with others. He have sent me screenshot of messages where he tried asking them out through social medias. Mostly the threats are such which involves ruining the relationship & sex related as that really hurts me. Approaching different girls & sending me their conversations.Another way he threatens me, is to tarnish me in front of my parents as he’s very good in manipulating. He have insulted me about my looks & appearance ( as he’s good looking), my education  level ( as im a adv diploma graduate & his a degree grad),my age ( he calls me an old faggot). He practically abuses me with foul words. Even I tried to make up to him , he went to the extend of blocking me on his birthday without giving me a chance to meet him or even wish him & came back to me at the end of day accusing of being the reason of having the worst birthday but in fact he celebrated & had a good time in office(based on what he told me with pictures).Even hes not with me I am not allowed to go out anywhere , if he gets to know I have to go through hell. Which happened recently,where I was depressed being locked in the house & finally went to meet my friends (girls who connected back to me after 10 yrs due to misunderstanding from past relationship). He started the same thing kept calling me & accusing me of  b******* with someone, so I told him Im with my gf’s & he can come see as Im not doing anything wrong. He came over & got extremely agitated as he saw my friends who was connected to my past & started insulting me front of them by uttering inappropriate things. He does everything says sorry & expect me to be normal. If I dont react to what hes doing immediately he will start abusing me verbally & recently he approached me . He said sorry & wanted to get back to me but I told him I need my space & life back as he is always too busy & Im so dependent on him .I wanted to go for classes & get back to my passion as I let it go for him since he made me to make a choice between my passion & him. He started again comparing me with his ex gf & saying that she lived for him & what he missed looking at me.

    I clearly understand I have a part on things turning bad in the relationship but I went through too much in fact I got physically abused for the mistakes too.I tried my best to make things work & be a good gf but I failed & I feel like a trash. When I try to do things to make myself okay , he doesnt allow me to do so & I dont understand why I am being so scared & obliged to him. Im not sure if I am also having problem with myself (mentally & emotionally),if I get an opinion from a 3rd party maybe I will be able to seek for help.

    Shini,

    Thank you,

     

    #359496
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shini:

    You are welcome, and I hope your life gets better very soon.

    “Before I got into a relationship with S, I was in an abusive relationship and I managed to get out of it”. You got out of one abusive relationship and into another abusive relationship, one you didn’t manage to get out of yet.

    At times S showed little to no interest in you, such as when he moved back to his university campus to do  his final paper, and a few days after he returned from campus, and when he was busy at his new job, working 8am- 9pm. Overall, he often pays you little attention unless he believes that you are spending time with someone else.

    When he found out that you wanted to attend a family birthday party, he created “a havoc or fight so that I will not go for the party.. sending me messages & threaten me he will go out with others”.

    One day you were out to get a tattoo, being accompanies by a male friend. S happened to call you at that time, wanting documents that he left in your car. You told him that you couldn’t give him his documents right away because you were out. He got very upset that you were out, and he “kept calling me multiple times.. started harassing me over the phone”.

    When you finally met him to give him his documents, the moment you went over to him, he became very violent and punched you (“The moment I went over, he became very violent & punched me”).

    After or as he was very violent with you, he kept asking you for the details on the tattoo outing and with whom you went to get the tattoo (“.. he became very violent & punched me asking me the details on the tattoo & with whom I went to get it”).

    Afraid, you told him that you went to the tattoo studio alone. He didn’t believe you and “he called the tattoo studio & got the information” that you were there with a male friend. When he found out this information, it “was a huge havoc”.

    Otherwise, he is in the habit of threatening you that he will “sleep around with others.. ruining the relationship & sex related”, “approaching different girls & sending me their conversations”, “comparing me with his ex gf & saying that she lived for him”. He insulted you about your age, looks and appearance (“he calls me an old f***), your education level, and abuses you “with foul words”.

    You reacted to his jealousy and abuse by becoming “totally disconnected from everyone and it was only him and my family”. You wrote that even though he doesn’t spend much time with you, he gets upset if he thinks you are spending time with someone else, be it family or friends. “I am not allowed to go out anywhere, if he gets to  know I have to go through hell”.

    Recently, you were “depressed being locked in the house & finally went to meet my friends.. He started the same thing kept calling me & accusing me of b**** with someone”. You told him you weren’t doing anything wrong, but he came over and “got extremely agitated as he saw my friends who were connected to my past & started insulting me in front of them by uttering inappropriate things”. Later, “he does everything says sorry & expect me to be normal”.

    You wrote: “I don’t understand why I am being so scared & obliged to him, I’m not sure if I am also having problem with myself (mentally & emotionally”-

    – My input: it is clear that you are in an abusive relationship and that S has been abusing you emotionally and physically. It is clear that you need to get yourself out of this relationship as soon as possible.

    Seems to me that the reason you are still in this abusive relationship is that you believe that you carry some responsibility for his abuse of you, this belief is expressed in what you wrote here: “I understand I am also a reason… I clearly understand I have a part on things turning bad in the relationship… I tried my best to make things work & be a good gf but I failed & I feel like a trash”-

    – can you tell me in what ways you believe that you are “a reason” for his abuse of you, and what you believe to be your “part on things turning bad in the relationship”?

    anita

     

    #359500
    Shini13
    Participant

    can you tell me in what ways you believe that you are “a reason” for his abuse of you, and what you believe to be your “part on things turning bad in the relationship”?

    First of all at, I guess I shared to him what happened in my previous relationship. So I feel its my mistake to tell him all those as I feel it affected him and made him felt insecured but my intentions was to be honest and not hide things from him.

    Besides that, I felt that me getting the tattoo with another person was wrong since this friend of mine used to like me since schooling days for almost 10 yrs but I had nothing for him other than the friendship trust n respect. Pretty much we both are clear bout our intentions but I guess the fact that I went out with a guy who likes me triggered him too.

    So I feel somehow I play a part in the way he behaves. But I tried to make things work. I gave him full access to everything & deleted my social accounts as well as allowed him to block all my guy friends. I did all I could to make him trust. None of it was sufficient.

     

    #359503
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shini:

    For you to leave this abusive relationship you will have to understand that in the context of this adult relationship between you and this man, you carry ZERO responsibility for his abuse of you, and he carries 100% responsibility for his abuse of you.

    “I went out with a guy who likes me triggered him”- I am sure S was triggered by something right before he abused you every single time that he abused you: abusive people abuse others (calling names, insulting, threatening, punching, etc.) because they get triggered, not because they are calm and peaceful. The abuse is their way to calm down from their triggered distress, to get  it out by .. taking it out on someone.

    What triggers S is not what you do or not do, what triggers him is what someone else did to him long ago. He projects experiences he had way before he ever met you- into you.

    To explain this point, I will suggest a possibility for what triggers him: let’s say S has a brother, and when S was a child, his mother favored his brother over him all through his childhood. For his mother, S was lazy but his brother was hard working; S was stupid, but his brother was a genius, etc. Fast forward, he gets triggered every time you spend time with another person, because he projects his mother into you, and his favored brother into the person you spend time with, getting jealous and upset all over again, just as he felt as a child.

    In this example, you can see that you are not responsible for him getting triggered, it is his mother that was responsible for expressing how she favored his brother over him. Her behavior caused an emotional injury in S that keeps getting activated in the context of his relationship with you.

    You can’t fix his childhood experience- you didn’t cause it and it is not within your power to fix it. The abused is never in a position of power or authority over the abuser. This is why you can’t help him. Because it is his habit by now to abuse you, he is not likely to change his behavior.

    “I tried to make things work. I gave him full access to everything & deleted my social accounts as well as allowed him to block all my guy friends. I did all I could to make him trust. None of it was sufficient”- you can’t fix his childhood emotional injury. Someone injured him when he was a child and it is not in your power to heal his injury. In the possibility I brought up, he needed his  mother to treat him equally to his brother. You can’t go back in time, become his mother, and treat him equally.

    Does my input make sense to you so far? Take your time to think about it, and please let me know your thoughts and feelings about what I wrote to you here.

    anita

     

    #359505
    Shini13
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Your input definitely makes sense dear. I think the situation you explained is something he really went through. And now I understand things clearly. But I just can’t seem to move out of this. One is I think I feel really bad for him and I just can’t seem to take the steps to end this. I feel like I’m going through hell to end this. To tell him off. I don’t understand why I’m so scared to hurt him or even to move on. Or at times I feel like it’s me refusing to give up even after knowing that this will really ruin me in long term. Even I had my friends advising me on this but I’m having a tough time. Anyway dear Anita I’ve got to say this to you, your really doing a good job & really a god sent help. Really appreciate this effort of yours.

    Shini

    #359507
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shini:

    Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate you telling me these things.

    “I feel really bad for him.. I’m so scared to hurt him or even to move on”- you feel empathy for him. The abused feeling empathy for the abuser is (unfortunately for the abused) common, and it is a recipe for disaster.

    Imagine this scenario in the wild: a mountain lion slowly and stealthily approaches a deer, aiming to kill and eat the deer. The deer notices the mountain lion and feels some fear, and maybe some anger, but most of all, she feels empathy for the mountain lion. The deer is thinking something like: oh, poor mountain lion, if I run away, what will he eat? He will be hungry and it will be my fault!

    Plus, I am used to this place. I know where to find food and where I like to sleep. If I run away, will I find any food, will I have a good place to sleep, will there be ten mountain lions there..  might as well stay here.

    What happens to prey (the deer) who feels so much empathy for the predator (the mountain lion)?

    anita

    #359566
    Shini13
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for making me see things .I clearly understand this situation that your explaining to me & things will keep repeating if I don’t do anything about this. I am trying to get out of it. What do you suggest for me to do that I will be able to get out of this fully,my friends suggested of ignoring him n all but that in fact made him more aggressive . I’m really very exhausted & scared but yet like you say the pity that I have for him is stopping me & I  understand it can really destroy me in long term.

    Shini

    #359593
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shini:

    You are welcome.

    * “What do you suggest for me to do that I will be able to get out of this fully”?

    First, I need to know what it means for you to “get out of this fully”. For example, if you lived with him, getting out of the relationship fully will include you, or him, moving out of an apartment or house where you currently live together. You didn’t mention living together or having children, but I will ask these things anyway, if the answer is Yes to any of the following questions, let me know: Do the two of you live together in the same apartment or house? Live in the same apartment building as neighbors? Live in the same neighborhood and therefore bump into each other at times? Co-parenting any children? Own property (real estate, car, etc.) together? Work in the same place or for the same employer? Own a bank account together? Does he have any access to your money or you to his? Are you financially dependent on him in any way? Is he financially dependent on you in any way? Does he have any kind of relationship with anyone in your family or with any of this friends? Do you have any kind of relationship with anyone in his family or with any of his friends? Is there anything else that practically ties you to him?

    * “my friends suggested of ignoring him and all but that in fact made him more aggressive. I’m really.. scared”-

    I need to know what specifically you are scared of, what specific dangers he presents to you. If you leave him, what are you afraid that he will do? If you are afraid that he will say words to you, are his words a danger to you? Is it possible for you to not receive his words (block him on social media and on your phone, etc.)?

    Are you afraid that he will harm you physically and what is the history of him physically attacking you and/ or threatening to attack you physically?

    anita

    #359599
    Shini13
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    No we don’t live together or have a child. But we live in the same neighbourhood (he used to be my high-school junior) Yes there is possibilities that we might bump into each and other due to this. Practically nothing ties me to him. None of his family members or mine knows bout this relationship. In the sense of finance, I did get into some debts using my credit card to get some stuff for him bu that again I have no issue, it can be sorted.

    I know this relationship is harmful but I cant seem to let him go. I’m emotionally attached to him. The moment he threatens me that he will go n look for someone else to replace me. I can’t take it and I feel very terrible. I practically go crazy and very emotionally down. I want to get out of this relationship but at the same time I feel terrible to do it.

    Besides that,yes I am scared of his words. Its so terrible where it makes me feel so horrible bout myself and at times question myself. I kind of lost my ability to see things clearly where I started feeling I’m the problem for all the issues. He’s very good in manipulating situations and everything. Once I tried to avoid him as what my friends suggested. He started harassing me by calling me n trashing me which literally made me breakdown at work place. He threatened me  that he would come over to my work place or either go to my family & trash me over there.

    Even  if I manage to avoid him, I’m afraid that he might harass me once I start moving on  exactly like how it happened in the tattoo issue. He broke up but came back accusing me for cheating on him.

    But mainly I think it’s my feelings for him that’s giving me such a tough time to let go. I dont want to be controlled by him but yet I fall into that again and again.

    #359617
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Shini:

    It’s a good thing that practically there is nothing tying you to him. It means that you don’t have to make certain arrangements before you are able to have no contact with him.

    Even though there are no practical difficulties and no real- life danger to you ending all contact with him (his words will not harm you physically), you do experience significant emotional difficulties in ending all contact with him.

    “The moment he threatens me that he will go and look for someone else to replace me I can’t take it and I feel very terrible. I practically go crazy and very emotionally down”-

    – soon after the beginning of knowing S, the two of you got close (“We got close”). Soon after he left to his campus and was distant (“not even a message.. avoided me”), and you adjusted well to him becoming distant (“I tried to move  on by meeting friends”), but then he was back  (“suddenly pops up out of nowhere to meet”), then “extremely close”, then way too close (“He became possessive”). Then nicely close during a vacation together (“he was the best version”), then he is distant again (“then suddenly he said he’s having some family issue.. wanted to break up.. blocked me”), then early May he “wanted to break up.. but he doesn’t wanna let me go now”.

    His comings and goings created in you a separation anxiety where he is your attachment figure and you get very anxious every time he threatens to separate from you.

    healthline. com, on “separation anxiety in adults”, reads: “Adults separation anxiety can have an onset in childhood or adulthood. Similar to other anxiety disorders, adult separation anxiety can affect your quality of life, but the condition can be managed with treatment”.

    In other words, you are afraid to not be with him, afraid that he will leave you for good. Do you believe it to be true?

    anita

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