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July 21, 2025 at 1:06 pm #447820
anita
ParticipantIn regard to this one stream-of-consciousness journaling, I am asking for no replies. Also, trigger Warning.
S.H.A.M.E and G.U.I.T- two very, very difficult experiences. As I typed this sentence, just now, the thought “Death is preferable” occurred.
I remember thinking- I was either a teenager or in my very early 20s- “if I could have one day in my life where I don’t feel Guilty, my life would be worth living”-
It just occurred to me: the title of this thread is Life “Worth Living”.
G.U.I.L.T was so very, very heavy.
My mother (MFH) used to lay it heavy on me: hours of histrionic displays of how much (she claimed) I had hurt her, how I intended (she claimed) to hurt her.. showing me where, on her wrists, she would cut with a razor blade so to put an end to the suffering (she claimed) I caused her.. because I was (.. she claimed) evil.
After each such histrionic display, she would calm down.. until the next time she found it necessary to.. once again, and again, and again… and again, let me know (just in case I managed to forget..) that indeed, I was the cause of her suffering.
I didn’t deserve that guilt.
But later in life, I have done wrong to others.. But already so immersed in guilt, I couldn’t tell the difference between valid, o justified guilt and the other kind- the kind that my mother imposed on me.
And S.H.A.M.E took hold- the feeling that I am a freak, an inexcusable creature of wrongness.. one taking space but shouldn’t. Being some kind of inexcusable otherness.. not worthy of togetherness.
To please my mother meant to erase myself. To erase that B.A.D.
These complex experiences of G.U.I.L.T and S.H.A.M.E dominated my life.. a life that felt like.. not “Worth Living”.
To re-enter The Garden of Eden (referring to my recent post to Peter)- Guilt and Shame cannot be left behind. They are parts of me.
But these parts- instead of continuing to weigh me down- are parts that I can carry with courage, like a hero.
I want my life to no longer be about self-erasure, the bely-up reaction to aggression, or potential aggression. I want C.O.U.R.A.G.E to be the theme of my life, a courage that will make the re-entry into Eden possible.
I have done wrong to people.. some of my guilt is valid. I have done wrong. And it’d be very difficult to no longer do no-wrong to anyone.. ever.
But my focus can shift from F.E.A.R of being bad to C.O.U.R.A.G.E- the confidence that.. as faulty and damaged as I have been, I can be something else now, something different- a person I am no longer ashamed of.. a person I am proud of (not in the biblical sinful kind of pride).
From my best efforts to erase myself, to people-please to => living a life “Worth Living”- one where I AM- not something to hide, but something to BE, to EXPRESS.
And in all that, to focus on the Sacred: love, compassion.
Anita
July 21, 2025 at 10:00 pm #447823anita
ParticipantAnother stream of consciousness journaling:
It’s 7:08 pm and yet, no sound of birds. On the other hand, there’s a loud thunder sound every once in a while. I suppose the birds are settling in little safe areas, preparing for a storm.
It’s been hot and dry here for a long time, so long that the thunder sounded- to me- like a military bombing- it’s been too long since the last thunder. So, I forgot.
I just heard a bird. Refreshing cooler air through the open windows (7:43 pm).
8:32, no more thunders, birds are singing. Light outside. An airplane in a distance.
The hum of traffic in a distance.
Maybe there will be no storm, no rain (8:39 pm)
“Life Worth Living- what is it like?”- a life free of toxic shame, free of unbearable guilt.
A life where I stand tall, feeling confident, carrying myself- not with toxic shame and unbearable guilt- but with pride (not the biblical condemnable pride), shoulders back, head up.. on top of the world, not below.
How deep and pervasive the shame (the toxic shame kind).. doesn’t let me LIVE a LIFE WORTH LIVING- always something I’m doing wrong.. so the message goes. So many mistakes. Here’s another.. and another.. oh, how WRONG I .. am.. wrong again, am I?
Seems like the only way for me to not be Wrong, is.. to not be Alive.
My brain has been programmed from a very early age .. every step I take.. is the wrong, WRONG step.. Wrong me doing wrong, Wrong.
9:06 pm, a bit of darkness, cool air, no thunder.
To undo the programming, it takes courage, a leap of faith.
As in, I am not necessarily Wrong, not always Guilty?
My mother’s legacy in my life is that of Shame and Guilt, heavy duty, drilled-in.. over and over and over.. and over again.
9:12 pm, Mon.. birds are singing, bold and strong.. They give me hope.
9:22 pm, darker, no sounds of birds.
9:30 pm, almost completely dark. No bird sounds, It makes me sad.. Another goodbye from my best friends, the birds.
I so very, very.. very much want to let the shame and guilt pass and be gone.. for good.
Peter.. ?
9:40 pm, just a bit of light when I look to my right, otherwise.. totally dark.
I am aware of how pervasive, how dominant the message has been, the message my mother cared-so-MUCH to instill in me: that I am BAD and GUILTY.
How it took hold.
It’s almost completely dark now, 9:52 pm.
A light plane in the air. No thunders for a long time.
Will Ada, or Confused.. or Emma will ever post again..?
10 pm- now, completely dark.
Goodnight, dear birds.. hear you in the morning.
Anita
July 22, 2025 at 11:14 pm #447853anita
Participant10:56 pm, Tuesday night, completely dark.
listening to YouTube music.
Oh, and by the way, after all the thunder last night, there were only a few drops of rain. Nothing really.
10:59 pm.
11:00
Had a delicious taco tonight.
Had some socializing.
I L.O.V.E socializing.. even when it’s almost boring..
It’s the CONNECTING-
That human accessibility, possibility.
Not being Alone.
Just that, not being alone.
Can’t have ENOUGH of .. not being Alone and Lonely.
I keep seeing little boys and girls in fifty-s- sixty-s year- old boys and girls.
I talked to a six year old boy this evening, one who will turn 61 in only a few hours. At first, he looked like an older man, but as I got closer, he looked younger and younger.
Actually, this man will turn to be 61 in a few hours, your age, Peter.
Alessa.. You are such a young woman.. in your early 30s..? Just a pup, as one of my friends would say. Just a Pup..
11:14 pm.
Anita
July 23, 2025 at 8:44 pm #447884anita
ParticipantJournaling, stream of consciousness (Trigger Warning, as always):
TOXIC shame imprinted into my brain, killing my heart.. making it bleed.
Putting my life in a half-century hold.
Not here (alive), not there (dead).
Neurological, psychiatric afflictions to follow the not-here, nor-there existence:
Diagnosed OCD, Tourette’s, Major Depression.. and more diagnoses (I am embarrassed about naming them all)
All because I was.. (so my mother said, and society echoed her): You, Anita, are wrong to get hurt. Wrong to react negatively to being (mercilessly shamed and guilt-tripped).
Wrong to take her threats seriously.. her threats to kill herself and to (her word), to murder me… Why.. that’s nothing.. What’s wrong with you, Anita, to even remember these nothing-to-it words.
Wrong to perceive these as anything other than business-as-usual in the context of parenting.. why everyone..
Don’t know.. how should I have taken her threats..?
They (society as I have known it) says I overreacted.
And this very message, as I have known it.. How widespread is it in the middle east where I was born?
This abuse being normalized- is this.. isn’t it what’s behind the-never-ending revenge and violence in the middle east?
My mother with her big brown, dark.. dark brown eyes and the corners of her mouth always slightly turned up, as in a smile.
But.. no, it was not a smile.
I hear voices criticizing me.. that voice saying: Get Over it, Anita, SHAME on YOU!.
But then I hear the reasonable voice saying (Peter’s): Transform it.
And yet, in the inside of me is still, always, a little girl looking up to Ima (mother)- seeking her forgiveness (for not being what she needed me to be).. needing her to tell me that I am a good girl.
I will never hear those words from her.. that I was/ am a good little girl.
Oh, what a difference it would have made for me.. to hear those precious words: You Are a Good Little Girl, Anita!
Fast forward, I didn’t hear those words from anyone.. until I did, just a bit, here and there.. couldn’t take them in..
Couldn’t really hear.
All I could see was that little smile on my mother’s face.. that little joy seeing me hurt.
Her Pleasure.
Transform this kind of maternal pleasure at witnessing my pain.. A mother’s REVENGE (that middle east revenge).
To love someone who takes revenge for what I didn’t cause.. not my doing-
The story of middle east ongoing revenge.
Anita
July 23, 2025 at 8:56 pm #447885anita
ParticipantWhen revenge rules, unbearable destruction follows: physical, mental.. (mental IS physical)
Underneath it all is Love.. Love unreciprocated, love misinterpreted. Love punished.
Maybe we all want to be seen as LOVE.. but our love distorted, is the source of all evil.
Anita
July 23, 2025 at 9:11 pm #447886anita
ParticipantI see so much good in people, such that I didn’t see before.. so much good I missed, good intention, goodwill..
There’s a lot to build on.. to unite, not divide; to forgive, not revenge.
9:11 pm, Wed night, July 23.. light outside. Birds chirping.. all is good.
Anita
July 24, 2025 at 9:15 am #447898Engineer101
ParticipantHi Anita
Hope you are well and enjoying the summer. As this is a like a journal I want to share something that is bothering me.When my daughter was in high school, 15 years ago, she had an exchange with a girl of a similar age from a different continent. This girl stayed with us for 5 weeks and we ensured she got life value from the experience by bringing her around the country and to cultural events. About 8 years ago my daughter did travel to this girls country and spent a few days with her. My understanding is they have been sporadically in touch with each other.
Fast forward to this week. This girl came to our town for a few days vacation with her mother, her spouse and her 5 year old son (from a previous relationship). My drive is to take care of people but my daughter arranged very few activities with these people and in my view is playing cool & distant with them. We hosted them for dinner in our home one evening, which was very successful but my daughter does not want us to do any more hosting. My daughter & her partner have a new small home, and she has not invited those people to her home, even for a coffee, I find this strange.
I feel that these people came all this way to spend time with my daughter . It would have been very expensive for them on average incomes in their home country. I feel we have let these people down and my daughter is blocking me from spending more time with them , she knows I would arrange activities which would take pressure off her.
I understand that there are people dynamics here that I don’t understand, my question is why do I feel very bothered about this situation, I put myself in the shoes of the visitors and feel a disappointment with my daughter. My wife tells me to forget about it, just roll with it as we are on the periphery.
I often feel other people pain & disappointment , whether real or imagined.
Gerard 🙂
July 24, 2025 at 9:38 am #447900anita
ParticipantHi Gerard 🙂
Thank you for sharing this—it reads like a heartfelt reflection, and I admire how thoughtful you are in considering not just your own feelings, but the feelings of your guests. Your empathy shines through.
It seems that your care for others—the desire to make people feel welcome and valued—is at the core of your discomfort. You gave generously years ago, and likely hoped that same spirit would continue now. Watching your daughter act more distantly feels out of sync with that legacy, and it’s natural you’d feel disappointed, maybe even confused.
I also sense that part of what’s bothering you is not just the visitors’ experience, but your own: feeling constrained, unable to express your full hospitality because of your daughter’s boundaries. You want to make it right, and yet you’re being asked to step back.
It’s wise of you to acknowledge that there may be dynamics you don’t fully see. People change, relationships evolve, and what might seem cold from the outside could reflect personal shifts, emotional distance, or even boundaries your daughter feels she needs to hold.
What stands out to me most is your compassion—the way you place yourself in the shoes of others, even when it stings. That’s not something to roll past, but to honor. You feel deeply. And yes, sometimes imagined disappointment is still real for the person imagining it.
Maybe the kindest path forward is to trust that you did offer warmth, and to let your daughter guide the rest. Sometimes loving someone means respecting the shape of their boundaries—even when they feel unlike our own.
Sending you understanding and encouragement. It’s clear your heart’s in the right place.
Warmly, Anita
July 24, 2025 at 10:28 am #447902Engineer101
ParticipantYou write : “Diagnosed OCD, Tourette’s, Major Depression.. and more diagnoses (I am embarrassed about naming them all”
Reading Stephen Covey about 20 years ago, an opinion he shared stuck with me : don’t name it, because then it owns you
July 24, 2025 at 10:46 am #447903Engineer101
ParticipantAnita
Thank you. I am amazed by your insights and understanding based on the written words shared.The girl visiting has posted on social media then and now photos, the then photos were taken by me 15 years ago and this girl has placed her son in the same spots and taken now photos. It is clear that her time with us 15 years ago meant a lot to her. Seeing her posts makes me emotional. I plan to write a few words to this girl in a few weeks from now to acknowledge that I really enjoyed meeting her and her family .
Warmly
GerardJuly 24, 2025 at 11:03 am #447904anita
ParticipantThank you for the replies, Gerald! I’ll reply further when I am back to the computer at the end of the day.
🤍Anita
July 24, 2025 at 8:03 pm #447911anita
Participant* Better I reply in the morning, not focused now 😊
July 24, 2025 at 10:30 pm #447914anita
ParticipantNo requirements for a stream of consciousness journaling.. says I.
I’ll apply morning-focus Friday morning.
But for now, Thurs night, completely dark, red wine- an unfocused journaling:
..What? What? Nothing comes to mind.
But something will.
Fleetwood Mac in the background.
What comes to mind..?
L.I.F.E comes to mind: P.A.S.S.I.O.N for life.
Life moves through me.
Feels like a desire to.. conquer life, to fully live before dying.
… See me dancing in that photo?
That’s me.. me inviting YOU to dance with me
Dance with me, Sing with me..
When you’ve known death-while-not yet dead- for way too long-
A passion inside- a passion to BE, to BELONG, to DANCE.. to CELEBRATE the little that’s left.
There’s this spike of Life- Passion.. right before the cessation of life.
Don’t ever be fooled by the face of an old person.. you never know how much passion is in that old heart.
And how much death in a young person’s heart.
Let us be kind to each other, young and old.
Young or old is a matter of nothing but timing…
Elvis Persely (YouTube): “Yesterday when I was young… So many happy songs were waiting to be sung”-
The songs waiting to be sung.. I will dance them away this very Saturday night.. Best times ever, under the sky, a live band, local.
Closing, Thurs nigh, 10:30 pm.. D.A.R.K.
Anita
July 25, 2025 at 11:32 am #447922anita
ParticipantGood Morning, Gerard! (still morning here):
Thank you for reading my stream-of-consciousness journaling with such care. I appreciate your sentiment and the reference to Stephen Covey—it’s a thoughtful reminder about how language and labels can shape how we see ourselves.
At the same time, for me, naming my diagnoses has been a part of how I find help and direction. Responsible clinicians use these names not to reduce someone, but to guide treatment that fits what the person is actually experiencing. It’s not always easy, but having words for what’s happening gives me access to tools and approaches that have been studied and refined—ways to move forward, even when things feel tangled.
I guess both truths can live side by side: naming can feel heavy sometimes, but it can also open doors. Thank you again for reflecting with me—I value your presence and thoughtfulness.
In regard to your second post from yesterday: seeing those photos must have stirred something deep—a beautiful reminder that even moments from long ago can leave a lasting imprint.
Her gesture of recreating those scenes says so much. It’s clear that what you offered her 15 years ago wasn’t just a trip, but something meaningful and memorable. I’m so glad you plan to write to her—acknowledging her and that shared history feels just right, and I imagine it would mean a lot to her too.
It’s lovely how your care lives on in subtle, quiet ways. That’s a legacy of kindness that sticks around longer than we often realize.
Warmly, Anita
July 25, 2025 at 12:41 pm #447927anita
ParticipantStream of Consciousness Journaling, whatever comes to mind:
I used to be so very sensitive to any bit criticism, real or imagined- it all felt like too much. Almost anything felt like someone was pointing a shaming finger at me. And I have no doubt- that’s how my mother felt in regard to me.. as if I was pointing a shaming finger at her.
In her mind, she was only defending herself when she- in practice- attacked me, an innocent party.. at least at the start.
Evil (attacking the innocent) understood- does it dissolve the evilness?
On the part of the innocent victim it does not because of the Impact. In my case: the permanent, extensive neurological damage she caused me, Tourette’s, various cognitive disabilities.. and so much suffering.
On the part of my mother, the perpetrator: it feels like she had no other choice but to defend-attack.
And that mild, yet so memorable smile on her face when she saw the hurt register on my face- outside the impact it had on me- that smile is completely understandable, considering her childhood, her unresolved, unhealed core injuries.
Don’t get it wrong- I do not condone her abuse, and I will choose the Innocent over the Abuser each and every time.
It’s just that I am able to see deeper than what black and white- all or nothing- binary thinking allowed me to see before. I can see the bigger, nuanced picture.
And at the same time stand against abuse of any kind!
Anita
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