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February 6, 2017 at 7:46 am #126872Dee DeeParticipant
Dear, NJ..
This line,
We all have a mind controlled by the ego which runs out of control, the monkey mind that makes us as human beings spiral into a cycle of clinging.
it serves me just right.
Couple days ago I was browsing through the internet and found this interesting article, unfortunately I forgot to bookmarked it. However, I remember it was talking about 7 ways to survive a life chaos, rise from the dust like a Phoenix phylosophy. The first step is to stop trying to control things.
And as you said about changing little thing, I am now focus on stop thinking. As much as it is a contrary to my beliefs, I’m actually doing nothing to control my life now. Just came clean to my Mom on my birthday, and she was offering her help, of course. Back then I would never say yes to any of her offers to help me. I’d get my ass back to work in an instance. But this time, I actually agreed when she asked me to move back to my hometown, take a step back, take a rest.
I can’t say this is an easy thing to do. My head keeps killing me with these thoughts that I’m getting old with nothing to be proud of. Agreeing to take a step back from all the troubles and take some rest to seek for treatments means that I will waste another couple months by doing no work, letting go of all the projects I’m currently working on. But I promised myself this break time. I don’t know if this is right though.
Do you think it’s the right thing to do?
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 8:07 am #126874Dee DeeParticipantDear, Anita..
Taking your wise advice, I am now trying to see and learn what’s the truth behind everything. Right now, I am at this phase where I can slowly begin to tell the difference between two voices in my head.
The one is the depressed mind talking and keeping me down all the time. Achieving paradoxical effect everytime, it asks me to do something right away, do some works, pay my debts. Then suddenly, in the middle of a project it told me to stop any of my efforts for it’ll never washed away the disappointment I caused to those who loved me.
And the other one is probably the real me, who asks me to take it slow. Give myself some time, a break from all of this chaos I have cause. This one is actually asking me to wait for the right moment before getting back to work and fix things. This one is actually telling me that it’s okay to wait, don’t worry about the age as it is only numbers. It says that when all the disappointment and shame washed away, eventually, I will find myself again before I realize.
What do you think about the things I started learn to see, Anita? Do you think I’m on the right track this time?
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 8:15 am #126876Dee DeeParticipantDear, Inky..
Thank you for hoping in to this topic. I actually just came clean to my Mom couple days ago. Without I need to ask, she was offering her help to settle all my debts and pay for any treatment I might need to take.
I have agreed to her offers. However, I do have little doubts. My mind has been back and forth about this offers. Like you said, I did this alone before. And my Mom doesn’t really know how to handle an addict so it might give her some hard times as well to deal with me in the future.
Whatever it is, I can only wish the best. Thank you for the blessings and all the kind words!
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 8:25 am #126877Dee DeeParticipantDear, Staceyroyce..
When you point out that from my story, I can’t help but to feel sad. Yes, I did that once to a good friend of mine. But what I did after the meth addiction took the best of me were series of unforgivable mistakes.
I lied dozens times. I manipulate my friends just to gain or borrow some cash to buy more meth. I know they love me, even until this very moment. But maybe they feel very tired of dealing with my addiction problems, they start to leave me one by one. I can’t really blame them, who would cope up with such disappointment over and over again?
So this value you said, it kinda washed away by all the bad things I did. And when you said remember who am I in my core, I can’t help but thinking maybe I am such a manipulative addict to the very core. If I wasn’t, how come I have the hearts to do all those things to my friends and family?
How I wish the light in me goes brighter each day.. Unfortunately, in this very dark moment, I can only sense that I’ve been feeding the demons inside me with my meth addiction. It gets bigger and now I can’t contain it anymore. Sometimes it’s even hard to tell the difference between the real me and that demon inside.
How can you tell? How can you keep the demon in line when he had become as big as mine?
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 8:33 am #126878Dee DeeParticipantDear, Laurie..
I have some friends who have been clean for more than a decade before they find themselves fall into the same hole again. This cycle just got me thinking, are we, addict, cursed or something? Because no one (or really barely) seem to be able to got out of this substance abuse alive and never touched it again. Most of the people I know, and you as well, find themselves relapse and sometimes getting even worse than before.
I can’t help but feeling terrified of my future. Say I can be clean again for some period of my life, just to find myself live the same chaos again years from now. Or, if I’m lucky enough, I’d find myself dead before that happen again.
Would you give me some insights about how could this doesn’t make you want to give up? Aren’t you tired of that deadly cycle of life, Laurie?
Please enlighten me, as you are a survivor.
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 8:40 am #126880Dee DeeParticipantDear, XenopusTex..
In Indonesia, where I lived, this is a very dangerous time for the youth. You can find meth as easy as if you were looking for a mint gum. You can get it delivered to your door with just a simple text. No need to go and hide in the dark alley to meet a dealer for transaction, everybody is doing it out in public nowadays. If it were 5 years ago, where to find meth need so much efforts, I doubt that my addiction could be this bad. But now it’s almost as common as buying cigarette. So if I have to point out someone, yes, the drugs dealer are ones to blame.
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 9:00 am #126882AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
Yes, I believe you are on the right track: recognizing the voices you described in your note to me is being on the right track. You wrote about one of the voices: “in the middle of a project it told me to stop any of my efforts for it’ll never washed away the disappointment I caused to those who loved me.”-
In my first post to you I wrote: what if it doesn’t matter that you disappointed others? Truth is you can not undo what was done; you cannot wash away what was done. So no point trying. The past is out of your control. It is done and cannot be undone.
Regarding the demon concept you mentioned in another note: ” I’ve been feeding the demons inside me… Sometimes it’s even hard to tell the difference between the real me and that demon inside.”-
From all your sharing on this thread, I don’t see a demon in you (literally or figuratively). What I see is fear. I experienced addiction myself, addiction to a certain behavior that got me in trouble, again and again. At the time, when engaged in it… yet again, I felt that I had no control on the matter. I did not experience having an option to do it OR not to do it. It, the addiction, took over. I know with certainty, that a CHOICE was not available to me. But it was not a demon in me that took over. It was fear and desperation. It was fear.
Only through building my ability, tolerance, endurance of distress – without reacting to it impulsively- that I was able to disengage from the addiction. That took time. Also, arranging the physical circumstances of my life in such a way that engaging in the addictive behavior was not possible or extremely inconvenient was necessary, to start with.
Hope you post again. If this is somewhat or potentially helpful to you, then I would like to continue communicating.
anita
February 6, 2017 at 9:08 am #126883Dee DeeParticipantAnyway, thank you all for the birthday greetings and wishes. I can’t expressed or tell you how grateful I am finding this community in my very darkest moment of life.
And if you guys won’t mind, I would like to share my doubts on one thing now. Maybe any of you could give me some advice and help me to see things clearer as I can’t really trust my judgement nowadays.
So like I said earlier, I have come clean to my Mother about I’m having relapse. She offered me to help with all my debts and asked me to move back to my hometown. But I’ve been trying to tell her, that years before my addiction got worse, I have become a passive user of meth in my hometown. That somehow scared me a bit, that moving back there means I would still have access to meth. And I can guarantee that whenever I want it so bad, I can manipulate my Mom in any way so I could feed my addiction. She thought she could contain me somehow, but I honestly doubt it. She had no experience dealing with addict before. She wouldn’t know the phase I’m in. Like the first two weeks where I will be sleeping all the time, or the cloud and the wall phase where I’d be likely spend my days starring at the empty space. Or the time where I’d be extra sensitive and grumpy and cranky all the time. I’m afraid I will be giving her some hard time.
Meanwhile, I do have this sponsor/support in another town I used to work years ago. This friend of mine have been working in NGO and dealing with addicts for years. She knows me best with this addiction. She also has been offering me to move in with her for awhile till I can get in my own two feet. She told she’d find me a job and take care of me there. And the most important thing is, I don’t have any access to meth if I stay with her.
I have tried to tell this to my Mom. But I guess she’s just being a Mom. It seems like she’s not allowing anyone to help me but her. She wants me to rely only on her. She even pushed some of the friends I have left. She said that it’ll be the best for me to stay low for awhile, as if I’m disappearing from all of my friends, to later come back after everything has been settled and I’m all way better.
It feels like my intuition is telling me to go to move in with my friend to a different town instead of moving back in with my Mom and my family. But then again, I don’t know for sure is this really intuition or is it this manipulative and tricky demon inside who just too afraid to be contained if I stay at home under my Mom’s supervision? I have agreed to my Mom’s offer though, but can’t help thinking back and forth between these 2 choices. I used to always believe that when you made the right decision, you will feel calm and sure inside your heart. But this time, I don’t. Does this mean I’m not making the right decision by saying yes to move back with my family?
Please help me see things clearer and make the right decision.
February 6, 2017 at 9:15 am #126884Dee DeeParticipantDear, Anita..
When I said, Demon, I was referring to so many things. You could say one of them is Fear, yes. It could also be Ego, Pride, Depression, and many other things that usually be the root of many negative acts.
And please do, keep communicating with me. I might be lost now, but I was and will always be a good student of life. I just forgot how and where to start learn again. Your all good intentions won’t gone to waste as I will try my best to take all the positive advice anyone gave me.
Dee.
February 6, 2017 at 9:55 am #126888AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
It seems to me that taking the option of the sponsor/support in the other town is a much better choice than moving in with your mother.
I will be glad to communicate with you further. I would also want to point out to you that I will not be disappointed in you no matter what happens next. I do hope you overcome this addiction, and from personal experience, I believe it is very possible for you. Although I hope for the best for you, I have no expectations.
anita
February 6, 2017 at 10:26 am #126897JahrinParticipantHi Dee,
I remember a long time ago my best friend was chatting with me about how he felt like he wasnt progressing and wanted to progress quickly despite being in his 20s. I remember telling him what do you want to acheive, where are you trying to get to? We always spoke of doing some good in life but he was influenced by successful people around him. I told him you can be successfull by being the best you, you don’t need to prove yourself to anyone, ever.
When you say I’ve got nothing to prove even at a young age of 28, is it possible that your ego is trying to tell you ‘Dee you should be ahead in life, how come you’re still stuck here?’ Now remeber that this is not the real you just a false projection of you in your mind, pushing you, the monkey mind that is so critical of you becuase it can’t face the false fear of what might not get done or what you might not become. I used to drink because it was fun but because I thought it gave me a personality, something to mask my fear of people and what they thought of me in social situation, it simply made my ego flourish, trying to be funny and yet causing false fear at the same time. Then on day I decided to take a few days off and read a few stories of other people who quit, motivated myself at how I could be a better me and realize I didn’t need it any more. The next thing I did was read a few articles and books on how to silence the ego, is this possible, yes I read about how destructive it can be and cause human beings minds to make choices they wouldn’t even consider. Slow and steady gains is what I told myself, the beauty of calming the mindand being still is something I can’t describe.If you are able to take some time away, seek a peacefull time to put as much effort into reclaiming your mind as you would your work then I feel it is a step in the right direction. You are not as old as your ego says and definitely not as old as some people who really lost. NJ
March 24, 2017 at 5:59 pm #141437Amanda Joy MoelleringParticipantThe book of Job taught me when someone is in pain, all they need is someone to sit by them and know exactly how they feel. Feel their pain.
My name is Mandy and I turned 30 in January and I know exactly how you feel. I was actually hurting so bad about my relapse, in the midst of googling “ways to die that won’t scare your children when they find you…because meth destroyed my happy beautiful life” I saw your forum title instead.No need for any more words from me. I just felt “less alone” because I knew your story, from your view.
And wherever you are, you are also in this moment are here beside me.
September 24, 2017 at 7:54 am #169995HelenaParticipantDee Dee-
Thanks for sharing your story, I’m sorry you are going through this, it’s hard! I don’t want to jump on here telling you all about “me and my story”, because this response is really about you. However, I get where you are, how you feel and how much of a hold you feel it has on you.
I truly know in my heart that you can not only do this, you can stop this for life. I hear it in your words that you do not like what it does to you, your life & your loved ones. I have been where you are-stopping is just a decision. A decision that’s made because you want yourself back, your life back & your loved ones back.
addictions are just a pattern- a pattern of behavior that we feel have control over us. You have complete control of your beautiful life, nothing else does. I don’t sign up for the “once a drug addict always a drug addict” BS. Just stop. I know you want to like yourself and be proud of yourself again 🙂 and you will. It’s a mind game that it has a hold on you, you are strong-smart & capable of getting all that you want, back!
You got this girl! Your not any of the goofy things that your mind is telling you. You are still you, your just altered on a drug “currently” 🙂 you don’t have a bunch of bad Karma, all of this loss is what happens when the using pattern comes into play. we both know nothing good in your life comes from using that stuff, only bad. I know you can kick some meth ASS and kick that stuff to the curb!
It has no hold- it’s just a choice. Shoot me an email if you need support, however, I feel you got this!
October 11, 2017 at 4:24 am #172711Dee DeeParticipantDear, Anit, Jahrin, Amanda and Helena..
I can’t thank you enough for all the kind replies you posted for me. It’s been 8 months since I made this post. I haven’t had any relapse ever since. After the lowest point of my life in February, I took some time to come home to my Mom for 3 months. Sober up and read read and read a lot of books just to distract my mind from craving. I also work out at the gym and this turns out to be the best thing I’ve ever done in my life. Knowing it took a lot of hard work to shape up, I was thinking to myself back then, I will not let any substance abuse break me down again. As my body feels great, I feel my soul also being fed. I become better.
I got a job offer from other town in the country, so I moved in May to this town, Bali. I worked and slowly, I was on my way getting my life back. Everything is great. I paid off all of my debts and begin to have savings, again. I met a new girl and although at first I was afraid and thought it might be too soon to start a new relationship, I ended up dating her and I was happy. She’s a great companion.
But I guess, that’s just the way life works. One of the biggest project I’m handling suddenly terminated for no reason by my client. The project involved some people, including one of my good friend. She was a young mother who recently trying to brand herself as a travelblogger. She thinks, with the project being canceled, as one of the buzzers, her name will be totally ruined. She blamed me for this.
Suddenly, I was where I was a year ago. I could feel the failures, disappointments, and embarrassments. Although people keep saying she’s just being dramatic and panic , I can’t help but to blame myself. Even though our friends said someday she will understands, I can’t help but thinking that, again, I’ve disappointed my friend, ones I love. Not to mention that my Mom and brother have been counting on me to give them money as they know I’m starting to work again. With the project being canceled, I lost one of my biggest income. I have enough money to live for myself but not to send money to them again. I feel powerless.
Now, here I am. It’s been almost a month and I feel zero motivation. I bail out on every project I’m doing. I ignore several great job offers. I’ve been doing nothing since then. I haven’t really go out from my room for 2 weeks now. I did go out yesterday to have a meeting and go to the cinema with my gf but that’s just it. I don’t think I really enjoy it anyway. I’m not living in the moment.
I realized several days ago that I might be having PTSD. Talked to a friend of mine who’s also struggling with PTSD for more than 3 years, she agreed that I might be having an episode now. Although she’s not a psychiatrist but what she said somewhat makes sense to me. I was always afraid of failures since a little kid. When the meth chaos ruined my life, I have a very hard time making a peace with myself, as you can see on my very first post. And when I try to fix my life up and I face failure again, this kinda throw me back to those years where bad things happened. She thinks I haven’t been able to forgive myself. That might be just right.
Another problem is that my gf is very uncommon with this psychological things. She has no idea what I’m dealing with. She’s been really understanding tho. I can see she’s also struggling with my mood swings and ultra sensitivity. She might be feeling clueless but I can’t seem to find away to talk it out to her. I’m so afraid of being judged. I feel like, since she only knew me for couple months, she might be thinking that I’m this lazy bstrd who just doesn’t want to work. Of course, I don’t know for certain whether she’s thinking like that or not, but that always stopped me from being open to her.
But today, since I already know what state I am, I’m confident I’ll be back on my feet in no time. I’ve been through the worse and I survived. So to everyone out there who’s struggling right now, I just want to say that, please don’t give up. Life would test you, would punch you, would kick you but it would also give you much reasons to be grateful and not giving up the fight. The reason could be as simple as sincerity of the strangers in this site that I and everyone else could get. Although it’s hard to believe this, but it’s true, you are not alone. I am not alone. So, thank you, Fam.
Now, I could really help some advice on how to forgive myself for things I did in the past and how to learn to open up with my partner or shouldn’t I?
- This reply was modified 7 years, 1 month ago by Dee Dee.
October 11, 2017 at 5:32 am #172719AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
Welcome back to your thread, good to read from you!
In your original February post, you wrote: “You have no idea how it feels like to…always in a war with yourself”. In today’s post you wrote: “I have a very hard time making a peace with myself, as you can see on my very first post”.
I believe that this is indeed what your struggle is about: war, internal war. You wrote today: “Life would… punch you, would kick you” – you referred to the project having been canceled and the former friend blaming you for it, but it is those warring voices in your head, those thoughts that are delivering the punches, that are kicking you.
It is possible for a project to be terminated, for a former friend to blame you for it, and yet to not feel those punches and kicking, to not experience that internal war. A disappointment, discouragement, but not that mental violence.
Those thoughts, that you disappoint and fail others, those are based on a Core Belief formed in childhood, following certain experiences. It is that core belief that gives rise to these thoughts. Would you like to share the earliest childhood experience or experiences that you remember, when that core belief was formed?
anita
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