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  • #159474
    Myles
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    Hey everyone, I’m back again, sorry if I’m posting too much, that’s something I’ve been told when I have been on previous forums and I’m trying to cut down on it. These are just some things I’ve identified about myself I just want to get out in the open, so here goes.

     

    As I said in my last post, I am terrified of cheating again. I would never have an affair, but because of how… promiscuous I feel I am (I don’t have lots of sex, but I do get attracted very easily), I am afraid of getting bored in a relationship and going out and doing something as vile as cheating on someone. For a long time after the Adam incident, I would tell myself I do not deserve to be in a relationship because of how “easy” I am and I would become very jealous and bitter whenever the subject would come up.

    I feel as if I am condescending sometimes. I am told I’m extremely intelligent for my age (I think I believe that), but there are times where I will beat others over the head with my intellect in a “Look at me, I’m smart!” way, such as deliberately being more verbose when I knew there was a much more succinct way of saying what I wanted to say, instead of letting it just be what it is. This happens especially when I feel I know something a lot of other people don’t.

    I have trouble admitting when I’m wrong. I believe this stems from the “my intellect is a large part of who I am” thing. For the longest time, I kept up this image of someone who was very placid, minded their own business and kept as far away from drama as possible. I feel as if, despite where I feel I am in my life now, there is a part of me that still wants to do this. So when this squeaky clean image of myself was stained in some way, I would get very angry and deny any responsibility I might have had for my actions.

     

    I am sometimes unsure of what to do with other people’s opinions, and by this I mean I sometimes forget that my own beliefs are also important. One value that is very important to me is being thoughtful. However, I often conflate this with letting other people’s expectations and opinions about things, i.e. music, films, and sometimes even me, become more important than my own beliefs about these things.

     

    I fear I am a hypocrite. One of the things I dislike about my father is that he is a hypocrite and imposes standards on his children that he himself does not follow. However, this fear only comes up when I begin to get into the habit of trying to emulate or compare myself to others, seeking attention by saying something that is either considered the “right” opinion or I would voice an unpopular opinion I did not really hold just to seem “edgy” or “different.” I would sometimes voice my opinion in a very aggressive way because I think that the person I am speaking to remembers my actions from a previous situation and expects me to act the same way in the next encounter. I posit what I’m saying in an aggressive way because I am afraid of being seen as a hypocrite.

     

    The last thing is that I depict myself as a victim whenever conflict arises. I focus on all the wrong done to me by the other person, I point out the flaws in the other person (in my mind that is), and go over how unfair their behaviour towards me was over and over again. I then picture my self in scenarios where I “stand up” to that person, as one would stand up to a bully. I think this goes back to the “squeaky clean image” idea I talked about, as one of the things I say to myself is “Why would they do this to me?” I hate doing this because I make things far worse than they might be. Another thing I do is instead of just asking myself if I am responsible for anything that happened in a situation, I immediately say everything is my fault and I need to apologise to the other person because I am wrong and yaddada yaddada blah blah blah blah. I sometimes find myself apologising not because I feel I have done anything wrong, but because I feel pressured into doing it and I want things to go “back to the way they were.”

     

    I think that’s everything for now, the last thing I wanted to mention was my relationship with my parents. Recently, my eldest sister, who was almost disowned by my father 10 years ago, cut off my mother after she posted a status on Facebook about her feeling underappreciated by certain people (my parents.) My Mum would constantly bring up my other two siblings, who have been estranged from my family for a number of years now, whenever my Sister would come over and try to help around the house. My Mum is known for being oversensitive and immediately wrote a comment talking about how ungrateful my sister is, she should be lucky she’s aloud round what with her having a girlfriend is all etc. One of the things my Sister mentioned to me is how my Mum gave her girlfriend the cold shoulder after my Dad told my sister she is not to come to their house with C (her girlfriend), whereas before that, my Mum was very bubbly with her, would have conversations about various things etc. My sister has now began talking to my Mum again, and I just feel very disappointed. I don’t feel as if I want my parents in my life when I move out, and I feel like I’m forcing myself to have a relationship with my 2 autistic brothers. But whenever I consider detaching myself from my family, I feel as if I will be called a brat and ungrateful, and that I am making a huge mistake.

     

    I may talk about the irrational resentment I sometimes feel for my 2 autistic brothers in another post, I feel like I’ve gotten everything off my chest for now though.

    #159536
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    I am glad you got everything off your chest for now. Post again-

    anita

    #159562
    Myles
    Participant

    Thank you Anita, writing down my unfiltered and honest thoughts on things is a lot more freeing than I used to think. The brother thing was something I was a bit afraid to talk about, as my family in general is a sensitive subject for me.

    #159572
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    What “brother thing” are you referring to? I believe you mentioned in the post above that your two brothers are autistic and that is the only thing you mentioned about a brother/s … I wonder, what is the severity of their autism?

    anita

    #159634
    Myles
    Participant

    Hey Anita, the two brothers I currently live with are both low functioning, one of them cannot speak, and actually lives in a residential at the moment as his behaviour got to a point that my parents could no longer handle (my Mum has a heart condition that drastically affects her ability to wake up from sleeping) and my Dad eventually found it too much. He gets angry very easily and it almost always ends in him physically lashing out and doing so for however long he wants to, but it tends to be when you are in the way of what he wants. My other brother is far more placid, and can just about speak, but mostly points to what he wants. I used to treat my more placid brother horribly as a child, and what scared me out of it is the way my eldest brother (who also has autism but is very high functioning) used to treat Rhys (the placid brother.) He would intimidate him whenever Rhys would come into the kitchen, there was a time where he deliberately made sure he sat on the opposite side of the bus from Rhys etc. But I still feel this irrational resentment for my brothers, as if I wish they weren’t there. I know they are just doing the best they know how and that I need to care for them, but I feel as if I will be forcing myself to have a relationship with them if and when I cut off my parents (I seem to have an issue with people getting “too close” to me.) When my eldest sister cut off my parents, she mentioned the fact that she felt as if Rhys and Callum (my brother currently in a residential) got more attention than everyone else and that she sometimes felt invisible. I don’t feel this way specifically, but I can’t think of where the resentment is coming from.

    #159654
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    Your father, ” He gets angry very easily and it almost always ends in him physically lashing out and doing so for however long he wants to”- this behavior must have scared your brothers into their silence, their shutting down. I understand your eldest sister’s ending contact with your parents, as well as your plan to do so.

    You have no obligation, I believe, legal or otherwise, as an adult anyway (a year from now?), to have a relationship with a parent or a sibling. So you don’t need to force it. As a child, you don’t have that choice. As an adult you do. And you can take advantage of this choice.

    anita

    #159662
    Myles
    Participant

    Oh, I meant that my brother lashes out physically, although my Dad has an extremely short temper, and the worst it’s gotten is when I said he threatened to kill me when he found out I was gay. I have two older sisters, and the one with the girlfriend is the one who is now speaking to my Mum again. My other sister has nothing to do with either of my parents. I turn 18 in 6 months, and during the entire “me being outed by my Mum” incident, I had twisted my testicle and it had died within that same week. By the time I had surgery, it was at the end of that same week and my testicle was quite dead at that point. My Mum always says I should basically “cut my Dad some slack” for what happened because if he was really such a terrible father, he would never have came, but I was 14 at the time, so it’s not as if I could check myself out of the hospital. I am also getting £13,000 when I turn 18 due to the negligence of the organisation that eventually dealt with me, but my Dad was the one who came up with this idea, and this is one of the other reasons I feel as though I will be called ungrateful if I cut off my parents ; I feel as if I quite literally owe my Dad.

    #159666
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    I see. How has your father’s “extremely short temper” look like/ sound like/ feel like throughout your childhood?

    anita

    #159668
    Myles
    Participant

    Well, he grew up in Nigeria, so whenever we would complain about his mistreatment, he would tell us stories about how his father was far more stricter than he is and that he was grateful for it because it “made him who he is.” One story involved him having to stand in a corner all day (he was 23) because he didn’t say good morning to his Dad. He would tell us how he and his other siblings were hit with hoover pipes, how his Dad had 2-3 wives living in the same house, etc.  80% of the time, my parents have a point, but they go one step further, and that’s where the emotional abuse I was talking about comes in. My Dad often spoke to me in a condescending manner, he would call me an idiot, stupid etc. There was a time I told him I was tired of him talking to me like a piece of dirt, he kicked me behind my legs, chased me outside, and slapped me across the face twice. This is one of a few instances this has happened, and there have been times where he has said to my Rhys (Rhys is quite big for his age) “Look at how big you are”, among other remarks about his weight. I haven’t had a good relationship with my Dad since I was 7-8, and even then he was just as strict. In short, by the time I was 14, I hated him. That incident was just the straw that broke the camel’s back I think.

    #159670
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    Maybe he thought he was a good father because he didn’t have you stand in a corner the whole day and because he didn’t hit you with hoover pipes. Maybe he thought that being called “an idiot, stupid etc.” was nothing, a thing of no consequence for a child, because it was not hoover pipes. Parents make use of all kinds of reasoning, convenient thinking, to make their behavior okay in their own minds. Thing is, a child being called names does not stop and think: this is not hoover pipes, in comparison it doesn’t hurt. It hurts because it hurts.

    anita

    #159680
    Myles
    Participant

    I understand, all of this, and I’m not sure I said this in my last post, started after Nigel (my eldest brother) became estranged from us. He began pushing us harder and harder. And there was a time where my sister Naomi (the one who felt like Rhys and Callum got all the attention growing up) just over 2 and a half years ago had called the police (she was 20 at the time, and she was living with us again because she had been kicked out of University, a University she felt that my Dad practically forced her into.) I can also attest to this, as my Dad has said on various occasions that University is the only place we should be going after College, and is very hostile if you mention any other plans you have besides going to University. She had been kicked out because her friend had been killed in a car crash earlier in the year and she eventually felt like her course (Psychology I think) was becoming too hard. She almost never left her room and my parents main gripe is that she “never did any chores” while she lived there. Because of how hostile my Dad could be, she didn’t feel as if she could talk to him about moving out. The day she called the police, she had an argument with my Mum about something Nigel had said about Naomi. I remember Naomi, who was in tears at this point, saying “Well you didn’t need to say anything did you?” and my mum telling her to “Shut the f*ck up!” I was then awoken maybe an hour and a half later to my Dad saying Naomi had called the police. I guess what I’m trying to say is he seems to have gotten harsher and harsher over the years.

    #159682
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    Your father wanting his children to go to university is not a bad thing, in itself. And your parents wanting your sister Naomi to do some chores around the house is not a bad thing either, in itself. The aggression on both sides, verbal aggression, is and has been a bad thing. If your parents were gently assertive with all of you, that would have made such a huge difference for all of you.

    anita

    #159688
    Myles
    Participant

    No, it’s not, but I don’t think my Dad has ever taken kindly to us saying something to the effect of “What if I wanted to do something other than university” or “I don’t want to go to University.” Even my Mum would guilt trip us into doing things, or they’d bring up the fact that they put food on the table, clothes on our backs etc. So we “owe” them. She would also be passive aggressive and resort to attention seeking behaviour on occasions to get a rise out of someone, and in the message Naomi sent Mum and Dad in which she cut them off, she bought up the pity parties my Mum throws for herself, and also uses the same “I had it worse than you”  line, and to be honest, she has. (She has told us she was sexually abused by her father as a child, found out she was adopted during her teenage years, got into fights at school and was permanently excluded at one point, she always had at least 2 people telling her off at any given time, among various other things that no-one should be going through.) I said all that to say I don’t think my parents are bad people, and I sympathise with the both of them, but I just don’t feel as if I want a relationship with them anymore.

    #159692
    Myles
    Participant

    Another thing that I wanted to get off my chest is I have trouble letting go of things. Every time I get to a point where I say “They’re just doing the best they can with what they have” or “I can’t change what happened”,there’s a part of me that, especially when it comes to the first statement, tells me that I’m being arrogant. I often have no answer to this and I am right back where I started ; creating scenarios where I am the victim and getting angry about things that have already happened and I cannot change.

    #159696
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Myles:

    Your mother didn’t necessarily have it worse than your sister- how can one compare subjective experiences? As I wrote before, you didn’t feel less hurt when your father called you  names because of making a comparison between a beating with hoover pipes and being called names, correct? You didn’t have the experience of being beaten with hoover pipes to make the comparison! Same with your sister: she didn’t feel less hurt because she made this comparison: this is not so bad because my mother was sexually abused when she was a child.

    There is no substitute for respect between people. If your parents treated their children with respect, that would have been something else! That would have been wonderful. The fact that they put food on the table is nice, but people need basic respect and when there is no respect, all the food in the world does not make it better, not at all.

    anita

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