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    Obsidian Zero
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    Hey everyone! I have suffered from moderately severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, depression, and daily general anxiety for several years now. Many underlying self-esteem problems were aggravated and greatly worsened by a relationship with a guy who regularly participated in pornography use. He would often ignore me and spend time with the porn instead, and he saw no problem with it while I was very opposed to it and saw it as cheating. I remember asking him about why it had its appeal when I was here, a real girl and a real human being who loved him, and he told me about how he’d come across something “really f__ing sexy” and how he /had/ to act upon those sexual feelings whenever he felt like it. I felt horrible about myself, as I do not have the body of a porn star and I never will. I would never be sexy enough to satisfy him, and I was replaced by fake and exaggerated images on a screen. I began researching how I could change my body in order to meet that standard of beauty, and considered several unhealthy means in order to finally be good enough to please him.

    I am still affected by this crippling feeling of inadequacy, even though that relationship has ended. I recognize that thoughts of envy and rage are unhealthy for me, but I cannot stop my hatred of pornography. Sometimes I fantasize about beating those porn stars to death, ripping the hair from their heads, burning them, making them ugly so the men that I love won’t seek them anymore and they’ll want me instead. I cannot have a logical conversation about the topic, because there is an instinctive fearful withdrawal where I respond angrily to what anyone says to me about it. I feel like it’s my loved ones and the porn stars vs. me, that I’m alone. I wondered about becoming incredibly skilled with computers so I could hack PornHub and 4chan and destroy them both. I also feel distrust and dislike toward beautiful girls at my school, and it’s harder for me to make friends with girls than with guys. There is an instinctive withdrawal around the “cheerleader types”, and I still struggle with feeling beautiful. When people tell me that I’m beautiful, I’m convinced that they’re lying to me out of pity. I am scared to have another relationship because I refuse to put myself in a similar situation, and I don’t really trust men to love me over the “whores.” These intense feelings of rage and negative self-esteem are damaging me, but I don’t know how to fix the problem. It seems that I’m incapable of even thinking about it subjectively, and a conversation about it several days ago left me shivering intensely while crying on the bed.

    #86787
    BuddhistBassist
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    O.Z.,

    I’d like to try to help, and first I’d like to point out how difficult you are being on yourself. You can’t change another persons actions, or inactions (not quitting porn), in this case. Other peoples actions in this world don’t reflect upon you, it reflects upon them. By which I mean, your ex’s unwillingness to accommodate doesn’t say that you are undesirable, its says that he is insensitive.

    Second is the real problem underlying all the envy, fear, and red hot rage, and by my reckoning is your self esteem. You already know this, but what you may not know is that the more you truly love and appreciate yourself, the more all that negative stuff goes away. This piece of information is powerful because it means that the porn, and the cheerleaders, and the ex, are not what made you feel badly. They are symptoms of what made you feel badly. You made you feel badly, and all those other things were just triggers.

    Example:
    “I remember asking him about why it had its appeal when I was here, a real girl and a real human being who loved him, and he told me about how he’d come across something “really f__ing sexy” and how he /had/ to act upon those sexual feelings whenever he felt like it. I felt horrible about myself, as I do not have the body of a porn star and I never will. I would never be sexy enough to satisfy him, and I was replaced by fake and exaggerated images on a screen.”

    In the first part, he identifies that HE found something and HE needed to act. But in part two, you translate that into your own words as you not being sexy enough to satisfy him. YOU said that to yourself, YOU hurt you. And O.Z., if you can hurt yourself with your own words you can help yourself with your own words. I’ll say it again because it’s really, really important. If you can hurt yourself with your own words you can help yourself with your own words.

    How we speak to ourselves is so important. Our internal voices are the only voices we hear all the time, and if the voice says negative things, you will generally tend to behave negatively in the world. Really listen to your own voice, and the next time you pop off at the mouth to yourself, correct it. Listen for keywords in your internal dialogue, ‘I never’ ‘I hate’, are great examples of what not to say to yourself. When you catch your internal speech talking bad, pause, and rephrase in a positive light. I’ve always battled with my weight, so for me it was to myself ‘I can’t believe you ate that whole damn ___! No wonder you’re so fat’. I rephrase to myself ‘Yea, you ate the whole damn ___. How can I do better? What triggered me to eat the whole damn ___, and how can I avoid it?’. So after a while, months of hard work actually, I would only get as far as ‘I can’t believe…stop…calm down…’ and then I would rephrase to a positive and kind way.

    Just be nicer to yourself girl. Be truly kind to yourself. You deserve better then to be spoken to in a mean fashion. Particularly by someone as close to you as yourself.

    As for general help with self esteem there are plenty of articles and exercises here on TB that can aid you. Just do a keyword search for self esteem and there is oodles of material on the subject.

    And for practical help a book that really helped me with my negative self esteem is called The Self-Esteem Workbook by Glenn R. Schiraldi. I got mine through Amazon, and it was equal to years of therapy, easily the best $15 I spent that year.

    Be excellent to yourself,

    ~BB

    #86843
    Anne
    Participant

    I have to empathize with you a great deal. I have also experienced living with a man who was obsessed with pornography. I went to few love addictions groups to try to work out my own issues and concerns about living with someone obsessed with porn. I had all the same or similar feelings of not being attractive, desirable, a real woman and I hated the porn as well as his obsession with it.

    One thing I learned over time was to take my interest about what he was doing and focus more on myself and what I needed and wanted. I started to realize more and more that the obsession he had did not have to be my problem or my focus in life and that I could have higher regard for myself, love myself, and value myself in such a way as to not let his behavior change me into someone I was not, and someone I did not deserve to be. I concentrated on taking care of me, loving and valuing me.

    I don’t know if that helps. I have a cat to run to take care of or I would say a bit more. Many blessings and hopes for strength to grow in your life.

    #86847
    Obsidian Zero
    Participant

    I’m really glad that someone empathizes. A lot of things I’ve read online about it say “Well porn isn’t a big deal” or “People who think it’s wrong are uptight prudes, these are just insecure women who aren’t hot enough for their husbands.” I can improve my self esteem and increase my love for myself outside a relationship, but I am scared to be in another relationship because if he’s a porn addict (as a sad number of men my age are), I don’t know how to feel good about myself. I can value myself as a human being on my own, but how should I proceed if a man I love chooses to seek pleasure from a woman other than me? If I’m cast aside, how do I see myself as beautiful and important?

    #86849
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    When I love a woman, I never and would never try to compare her or size her up to any kind of pornography or porn star for that matter. That is very abnormal and downright dis respectful. When two people make love, they make love however they feel comfortable. That is something very sacred between a couple that is very much in love. If someone EVER tried to rennact a porn or compare me to anything that had to do with porn – Our relationship would be over! Now, I have seen enough porn in my life to say that it’s not real/fake. Every time I’ve been in a serious relationship, I have never compared my GF with porn. I love my GF’s body the way it is and I’m not looking for flaws or perfection because that is called TRUE LOVE . When I am with my partner, we do not watch porn and I do not expect her to have a PORN body and she better not expect that either from me. Porn doesn’t even enter my mind or relationship. When you love someone, you love them without all the superficial crap that is displayed in pornography. Glad I never got addicted to porn. Use to watch it when I was single yes but never addicted to it. I am just fine without it.

    Every one have a good Friday. I am done with this topic, respectfully.

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