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  • #51189
    Alison
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    Thanks for reading, I need an outlet of some sort and I feel as though receiving anonymous objective opinion will help clear my head. For almost this entire relationship, I have felt like this and any positive (or negative) feedback will help – especially if you’ve felt like this before and were able to overcome it. This is my more of own issue, than relationship problems. (Well, probably communication problems)

    For the past year and a half, I have been dating an amazing man. I love him very much and I know he loves me. Loving, sexy, hard-working, extremely intelligent and honest. Our chemistry together is amazing personality-wise and sexually, we’re always laughing and having conversations about anything and doing lots of new things together. We were LDR for 8 months of the relationship and we will be going through another 1yr LDR due to school. In regards to the future, we seem to have the same goals (marriage, kids, travelling, work, etc) and would like to spend it together, but we haven’t seriously discussed it.

    The issue: I have an obsession with the thought of his ex-gf and their relationship for a long time and it seriously affecting my self-esteem and my view of our relationship. I’ve always had a low-esteem, no confidence, but I have never felt this kind of jealousy before. I trust my boyfriend 100% and I know he wouldn’t cheat on me.

    Background: When my boyfriend Jack and I first met, he was out 2-3mo from a serious on and off 3yr relationship with his high school sweetheart Jill. They broke up because of distance. She was seeing someone else shortly after they broke up. I was recently out of a 2yr relationship 1 month before. We broke up because my ex-bf had a mental breakdown.
    When Jack and I started to go out, it was more of exclusive hook-up for the first 3mo. During that time, he would always talk about his ex-gf. Sex positions they would do, showing me pictures of them together, how her body was different than my body, telling me about an event related to what we were doing at the time, etc etc etc. At first, I didn’t mind – he was just talking about it and I was kind of curious since it wasn’t a seriously relationship at that point. After a month, it started to bother me so I abruptly told him to stop. He said he did not have feelings for her and was just telling stories of the past with no emotion attached to it. He did stop for a little, then slowly started slipping stories in again. As far as I know, they were friends but did not keep in contact that often.

    We started to get serious after 3mo. Besides the ex-gf stories, the relationship was amazing. But the small ex-gf stories slowly continued. I probably told him at least 3 times to stop doing it throughout 6mo. I realize now that I was not assertive with how I felt when I told him and the feelings lingered. Then we got into a huge fight about it in July 2012. It was during our LDR and I was drunk and finally told him everything that I truly felt – how I felt insecure and inadequate in our relationship because of the ex-gf issue. He was at first angry – telling me I had a complex about it and that he had no feelings towards her. He calmed down and then understood me. It was a very good conversation and the first time I let him see the dark place of my mind. He hasn’t spoken about her since July 2012. He tells me he loves me everyday and I know he loves me very much.

    Even though he stopped completely, the thoughts are EXTREMELY obsessive and invasive. Almost everyday, I feel as though I could not compare to her – she is so much funnier, prettier. Everything they did, he will compare it to us for the rest of his life because she was his first love and he will probably have love for her forever. I started to picture everything we did together, they did together and it was so much better then. I feel like his high-school party days were the best times of his life, and now he’s settled. I resort to self-destructing ways. I know this absolutely horrible, but I would go on Jill’s fb, instagram, twitter and compare myself. I would go on Jack’s skype and phone and look at their old messages, or even just to see if they were talking recently. Before this relationship, I have never snooped before. I am so ashamed of it -especially since I keep doing it.

    I am working on controlling these urges. I’ve just resisted the urge to look, deleting social media, some therapy (not very good therapists), trying to keep myself busy and being mindful of my thoughts, but I feel like the hole I’ve dug is much deeper and I am having an extremely hard time getting out. I know that he is with me for a reason and that the past is the past, but … I don’t know ….

    Currently, our relationship is good. But I feel like my resentment of it is coming out in subtle negative ways – I’ve been passive aggressive about little things, I get quiet around him sometimes, asking him what he loves about me, I sarcastically say insecure things. I really want to work on this and I want to make our relationship thrive because I know I am better than the mindset I’ve been in. He and no one else has NO idea how I feel.

    Any feedback would be great. Thank you.

    #51196
    Mark
    Participant

    Alice,
    I don’t know what kind of feedback that would be useful for you.

    I do know the adage, “What resists, persists” meaning anything we try to deny, push down or ignore will pop back up again unless we address it head on.

    Your low self esteem and lack of confidence seems to be the source that would affect your behavior. How are you addressing loving yourself enough so that you can get to the core of your behavior?

    Plus you said you have been in a LDR (long distance relationship) with Jack. Does that mean you don’t see him much? I wonder how many in person, face-to-face times you two actually have been together? I believe that with any LDR, it is a challenge to get to know each other and trust one another.

    So in my view is that if you need to keep being reassured and keep comparing yourself with Jill then you need to address the source of that which is your own love of self. I believe if I truly love myself then I will have the confidence to be OK in any situation and relationship.

    So you say you have tried the resist your urges, tried therapy, tried keeping busy, tried being mindful. I applaud you for all those conscientious efforts. I encourage you to continue your mindfulness, continue to look for a good therapist, continue to be with your urges but not act on them day-by-day.

    Our mindful living is a practice. Practice means it’s a day-to-day, conscious effort. When you meditate, sit with your insecurities and practice the Loving Kindness Meditation. Loving yourself and others.

    Metta,

    Mark

    #51250
    Alison
    Participant

    Mark,
    Thanks for your comment. I guess I was looking for feedback with dealing with jealousy and seeing if anyone has felt this way before. I feel like I keep avoiding addressing the problem head-on, except I am unsure of what problems needed to be addressed first… or how to deal with them. I keep thinking about telling Jack about my insecurities, but I feel like they are my own problems – not his. Your response is very insightful. I will keep everything you said in mind.

    #51275
    Matt
    Participant

    Alison,

    Has it occurred to you that he has picked you? It seems you are habitually pushing him (in your head) into her arms. You even named them Jack and Jill! Bumps like your jealousy don’t inherently hurt an intimacy, but the pulling back, the hiding and so forth can. Were I in your shoes, I would definitely have a conversation about it with him.

    Consider that males often have a “forging ahead” mentality, where they look at and interpret their environment analytically rather than emotionally. So when he says “wow, you do such and such much differently than Jill” it may have nothing to do with his desire, his emotion. Just noticing differences and sharing with you. “Wow, you tilt your head to the left when you kiss me, and Jill tilts her head to the right. How interesting.” When this brushed across you, it perhaps became painful because he seemed to be comparing, judging. He might have been, but most likely not. That would have been a good time to ask “and do you like my left tilting kisses?” Rather than assuming he means “I wish you were more like her”. They did break up after all, so even if you think she’s such and such and so and so better than you, that’s in your mind, not his. What does he see?

    Being in a relationship is usually scary, because we become naked and vulnerable with one another. So, your feeling of fear is normal, usual, and expected. It seems to me the mistake you’re making is letting the fears fester, painting tons of fantasy, then deciding Jack and Jill are a better match than Jack and Alison. Where’s Jack’s opinion on the matter? Are you deciding that for him? Too scared to ask? Too scared to trust?

    Finally, consider the kindly advice Mark gave in starting a metta practice (loving kindness meditation). As he noted, the core of icky feelings inside perhaps keeps the obsessive actions and thoughts pushing forward. Much like a horse with a burr under its saddle might run and kick. As you sit and learn to settle, open, rekindle your lightness, those obsessive actions and thoughts will perhaps simply go away. Said differently, if the light inside you is bright, Jill and her curves and smiles and such will get boring pretty fast, and you’ll find something more interesting to do with your time. Maybe smell some flowers, tell some jokes, or whatever. This is a pretty big planet full of wonder, and investing so much time into obsessing over Jill is pretty wasteful. 🙂

    Consider “Sharon Salzburg guided metta meditation” on YouTube if interested. Even once a day for a week may provide a significant amount of relief.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #51327
    Mare
    Participant

    Alison,

    I, too have a story to tell about obsessive thoughts in a relationship. If you would like to talk more, you can email me at mare@mail2peace.com. But what I really want to do is point you to a website that helped me and showed me there are many, many others that go through this. The person who runs the site is also a mindfulness meditator and shares his story how he overcame his obsessive thoughts in his relationship.

    Here is the link: http://www.retroactivejealousy.com/about/my-story-2/

    I hope this helps you in your healing journey.

    Mare

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