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  • #205891
    June
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    I decided to broke up with my bf. We had 3 years relationship, which 3 times on off due tue he ghosting me. I have bad experience in past relationships, 5 exes (include him)  betrayed me, and now i am feeling exhausted, hopeless in relationship. I love him that’s why since our first break up (he suddenly dissappeared), i forgive him.

    In our third attempt, unknown girl contact my social media asking  where my he is. She said she was ghosting by my bf. I asked my bf who’s that girl. He admitted that the girl contacted him and said her period was late (possibly pregnant). I was shocked, sad, angry at the same time. He admitted he was drunk and makeout with that girl, but he doesn’t believe that she’s pregnant. I love him so I decide to help him get through this problem.

    Those experiences make me kind of worry, insecure about our relationship. When he goes out with friends, I am worried, thinking negatively, afraid of betrayal . Yesterday we had big fight, he said i am too suspicious, negative thinking.  After long fight, I withdraw my self and decided to break up but now i feel sad because love him so much. I am thinking to reach him out again and tell him i love him. What should i do? Am I major toxic in this relationship or what? I am so confused

     

    #205897
    Regi
    Participant

    I understand that he’s annoyed by your suspicious behavior but this behavior is normal if he has betrayed you. Your intuition tells you to not trust him, your trust is damaged. He should put in some effort to earn back this trust (which is pretty hard when you have been betrayed in 5 relationships).

    Have you told him why you are insecure about this? He should understand in stead of getting angry.

    #205899
    June
    Participant

    I never tell him about my last relationship. I am afraid he would think I always bringing up the past or even offense him, reminds him of his past mistakes.

    #205901
    Regi
    Participant

    Hmm… I don’t know him, so I can’t tell you how to approach him, but I think there should be a way for you to let him understand why you are insecure and acting suspicious. What he thinks about that isn’t something you can control, but if he doesn’t understand your concern, it’s hard for him to work on your relationship.

    #205945
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear June:

    It makes sense to trust a man who is trustworthy and to not trust a man who is not trustworthy.

    He betrayed you in the past and ghosted you. Following such experiences there has to be much improved communication to follow, empathy and regret on his part: empathy for you hurting and regret for him having caused that hurt.

    Without improved communication and empathy and regret on his part, I don’t think it is a good idea to resume a relationship with him.

    anita

    #206111
    June
    Participant

    I tried to reach him out but it’s been a day he doesn’t respond. I don’t believe people don’t check their phones 24 hours. It’s so confusing because when I withdraw and want to leave, he don’t want to me to leave , but now he is ignoring me. I just don’t understand. What’s is all about? Help me

    #206115
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear June:

    You are attached to this man, you need him so you reached out to him. But reads to me that he is not good to you or for you. You probably know it yourself, don’t you.

    But you need him, and when we need something or someone we try, again and again. And again.

    Will you share with me more about this man, tell me about him?

    anita

    #206375
    June
    Participant

    Dear Anita

    We met on online dating, we feel clicked each other. I am introvert person, but I can be myself when we together. We laughed a lot, so many funny moments together (I still remember it until now). He’s very different from my another exes whose barely made me laughed.

     

    6 months dating, we had our first fight. He was coldfever, vomited (if I am not mistaken)  and need to go to doctor. That was middle of the night, and I was so worried about him. I called him like 5 times, texted him a lot, but he angry ” I am in hospital , could you just shut up, don’t disturb me!”  he said. I was shocked, sad at the same time, I cried. Next day he disappeared for 2 months!  I don’t understand what I did wrong. Am I too noisy? Am I too worrysome? My friends said he’s just not into me. Two months ahead, I initiated contact, he replied.  We met and he said sorry, I forgive him and back together.

     

    Six months later, he suddenly disappeared again!  As IT engineer he used to work overtime, usually 11 night until morning. We usually had chat when he’s overtime , but at that time he didn’t,  so i am curious where he is at 2 early morning. I called him 3 times, texted him, suddenly his phone turned off, then he just disappeared for months (again). I put down my ego and initiated contact, he replied, said sorry and so on.

    By the way he is 3 yo younger than me, raised by single mom, his father passed away when he’s 5 yo. He has introduced me to his friends, but never to his family. He said that her mom doesn’t allowed him to bring girl home unless he is ready to marry. That’s 360 degrees different than my mom,  she’s such a type of always want to know her daughter’s bf, insist me to arrange dinner whatsoever but I denied because I want him introduce me first to his family then I’ll do the same. I never know where’s exactly his home. I asked him about it, he said you already know from my ID card.

    Then, last ghosting behavior  was only one week, after we had a fight. I think because I wasangry he was too busy, I accused him doesn’t prioritize me. I said sorry and love him  ,can we work this out, but he ignored me for one week.

    Fight after fight been through, finally I asked my friend to stalk his social media and found pictures of him with another girl. He was tagged and like that pict (means he hide it from his feeds). I was so mad and send him that pict, he said it was when we broke up, but i found picture was taken on january 2017 and we are still together in that time. I don’t know which one is truth. Deep in my heart says only God knows.

     

    We had up and down moments, when we away mostly I initiated contacted. I cried a lot when we fight, he never saw me cried.  I refuse to give up on him. Sometimes I feel he doesn’t love me wholeheartedly, if he loves me why he ignored me when I reached him out.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    #206423
    Regi
    Participant

    When I read your story I feel sorry for you. This relationship must have hurt you so much !

    Ask yourself if all this is still worth it. Perhaps you made the right decision. Someone who dissappears like this doesn’t fit in your life in my opinion. I’m thinking that you are probably not hearing him anymore for a few months from now.. Again.

    #206431
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear June:

    I am wondering regarding your example of when he was sick and in the hospital, you wrote: “He was cold fever, vomited… That was middle of the night, and I was so worried about him.  I called him like 5 times, texted him a lot.” –

    Did you consider, while worried about him, that he needs quiet, that he needs rest and therefore you shouldn’t keep calling and texting him, that instead you should wait for him to get back to you, or wait until the next day, so to give him a chance to rest and recover?

    anita

     

    #206697
    June
    Participant

    Dear anita

    I admit that I didn’t think about it. Is that so wrong?

    Dear Regi

    I agree, this attachment is not healthy for me. I been thinking am i in narcissistic relationship? Is it or is it him?

    #206699
    June
    Participant

    Is it me or is it him?

    Sorry for some mistyped

    #206713
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear June:

    You asked: is it me or is it him (responsible for the troubled relationship)?

    Probably both, you and him. (Not you or him).

    If you would like to look more into your part in creating the trouble in the relationship, share more examples, if you’d like, detailed examples: circumstance, what you did/ said, what he did/ said.

    I will be back to the computer in about sixteen hours and will read from you if you post more by then and reply.

    anita

     

    #206785
    June
    Participant

    ear Anita

     

    Lately i been thinking am I in narcissistic relationship? Am I shitty crazy narcissistic person or is it him? Seriously now I am questioning my sanity.

    I made comparison list me vs him based on these narcissistic red flags

     

    CHEAT/FLIRTING/LIE

     

    Me :

    I never cheat or lie or flirting. I don’t even attempt to get new male friend. My exes betrayed me, I know how damaging betrayal is, so I never think of cheat on my bf. I stay loyal and honest

     

    Him :

    Like I said before, my friend stalked his social media account and found his photo with another girl (very closed, holding his hand like a couple). He denied, ” she’s only my new friend, she asked me to take a selfie. That’s when we away” (refers to 2 months ghosting)

    I asked “seem she’s very closed to you, she hold your hand? ”

    “Maybe it’s just her style”, he replied

     

    We celebrated 2017 new years eve together, that’s why I still remember on January 2017 we were OK, but I found that selfie photo took on 11 January 2017, and we were not away (broke up) that time. It means he lied, didn’t he?

     

    ACT LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED

     

    When he ghosted me, and I initiated contact (always me after he ghosted), he act like nothing happened, always like that.

     

     

    LOVE BOMBING THEN TURNED TABLE

     

    As new couple, he often share our date pictures on his social media make, said something sweet “good morning love.. ” me feel loved and quite flattering. He said “how lucky men you had crushed on”. But after a year, he totally changed, not loving as he used to.

     

    TAKE ME FOR GRANTED

     

    I often feel he takes me for granted, example :

    He mocked me in front of my friends by saying I am stupid

    He rarely appreciate what I did. I help him selling unused stuff in flea market, but he didn’t thanked at all.

    He always always mocking me if I said wrong  vocabularies in english, wrong pronunciation whatsoever . FYI I live in south east asia, here I don’t speak english in daily basis. One day I get really mad and said “oh please, even my foreign sister bf can understand my english, why you can’t and always mocking me ?”

    “Oh honey, it’s just joking, you’re too sensitive today” he replied

    If it’s just joking, why he did it every time?

     

    SILENT TREATMENT

    When he get mad he do me silent treatment. I admit I ever did it too, because I think I need space to think and analyze. Is it wrong?

     

    Once a time, we were in vacay, I was coldfever and sore throat, I couldn’t speak (literally! My throat was so swollen, pain when talk) but he mocked me by mimicking my weird painful voice. I got angry, so I just remained silence (because of pain and angry). He suddenly became angry too, and ignored me then busy playing online games. Tomorrow morning I feel better, so I went out alone to catch sunrise in front of our hotel room . I didn’t dare to wake him up because yesterday we were exhausted (we went to island hopping, snorkel, etc). After sun arised I called and text him, “honey are you wake up?” He didn’t respond so I back to hotel room. He got moody (I noticed changes in his facial expression ) then he remained me silent. That vacay turned into weird moment.

     

    One of our trait is when one of us get moody, other will get moody too, vice versa.

     

    Now I am questioning my sanity because he said I am TOO SENSITIVE, SELFISH, always ACTING SUSPICIOUS , HAVE UNBELIEVABLE NEGATIVE MIND? He literally said that

     

    Update :

    I noticed in his social media that he just had new female friends. I am wondering he seems doesn’t feel pain or grieve after breakup (it’s just 1 week!). I think normal people will grieve after breakup?

     

    #206847
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear June:

    I don’t need more than your examples above to come to the conclusion that he has been rude to you, mocking you is being rude to you, disrespectful and cruel.

    I don’t know about the narcissist thing, it is a hot term online, has been for a while. Rude, disrespectful, cruel, unkind… these are enough to determine that he was and is not a good candidate for a relationship with anyone.

    anita

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