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    stevoukos
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    I have been diagnosed with depression (dysthemia actually) and panic disorders for 3 years now. Although I have been “battling” with these conditions for all this time it is quite understandable that these conditions have changed the way I work,act,behave and view life.

    Over the course of these years I ended up searching deeply into the meaning of everything around me and found some peace and comfort in the words of existentialist philosophers like Camus or Sartre. I have (in an odd way) come to terms with the fact that life has no inherent meaning and I’m..fine (?) with that.

    What I really wanted to talk about however are relationships.Romantic or friendly-doesn’t really matter. They appear to me to be inherently vague and empty. I can’t really point it out and name what’s wrong with them,however there is something fishy.I can’t seem to connect anymore,I get bored easily,I find normal conversations boring etc.. This has obviously added to the feelings of isolation and loneliness that I have been experiencing throughout these years.People leave because I can’t communicate with them and this further adds to my guilt as well. This whole experience is really troubling me.

    Has anyone experienced this? What are your opinions on this?
    Thanks so much for your time.

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    sojourner
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    Hi, I’m not sure what to say but I think it’s admirable that you are reaching out here. Sounds like you are kinda hard on yourself, with the guilt and expectations that you should be one way but are the other. Is there a correlation between dysthemia and these feelings? Does any medication you might be on have this kind of side effect real or imagined? I am depressed too (working on coming out of it, but as you know, it takes time) and I have read that anti social feelings and feelings of the meaningless of life are common.

    I hope you treat yourself with kindness and understanding. Some people only have 1 or 2 deep relationships in the course of their life. In this culture of social media where people count their friends in the 100’s on Facebook, many relationships are inherently going to be light acquaintances, but it can make a person who has an introvertive nature maybe feel like something is wrong with them. Does that make sense?

    I’m quite sure you are good enough just the way you are. I wish you peace.

    #58830
    Mike
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    I have experienced this myself. As an introvert as well as having general anxiety disorder I often find myself not really adding anything non-superficial or emotional about myself to others that I am not close friends with and even then I am very protective of what I put out there. In true friendships and relationships it is supposed to be a two way street of communications and connection. For me it typically ends up being a one way street with people that are more looking for someone that they can use to let it all out to. Complainers and pessimistic people normally aren’t given a listening ear by people looking for true relationships, these people bring every one down and are the people that never let anyone else get a word in, but in conversation a person who is introverted or reserved may not know how to handle such people and even though they don’t like all that negativity they think oh well its at least a friend. But is it? Now where you are in your life I think these are the people you have encountered so much that they have burnt you out on even trying. For me I practice patience and understanding, but I try to be what some buddhist monks describe as a trash can, I listen and may reply but I do not hold on to it I let it go so that it doesn’t affect me. I still feel used after dealing with these people since once they are done talking about themselves they typically are done altogether and send me on my way. Or when they do ask some type deeper question it is to assure their own ego or to learn some gossip.

    When talking to a genuine person, my anxiety causes me to cease when it comes to me diverging anything about my own feelings on something so conversation from my end typically stays above the surface. I have also noticed while talking to genuine people a discomfort arises that causes me to be short with them. Genuine people might take offence to this, I am sure they do and have been told that it does. They don’t want to be the only ones talking, nor do they only want to talk about themselves.

    I think superficial conversation is a part of life, people just partake in it to be friendly and that conversation is “worthless” it like when people say, “”how are you doing?” they don’t really want to know and will look at you like you are crazy if you tell them. To truly have good conversation takes work in not only being a good conversationalist but in also finding and talking with a good conversationalist and when that happens you will find that hours go by and you thought that it was only minutes and it is worth being able to have a friendship like this.

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 5 months ago by Mike.
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