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  • #219397
    Arvandor
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    First off I’d like to thank everyone here on the forums for their openness and bravery on pouring their hearts out. I started reading the website about a year ago on a particularly difficult time in my life, and was humbled to see that so many people have gone through similar experiences and even some much more difficult ones.

    Tonight I would like to ask your opinions on a situation I am going through. Though not as important or urgent as some other topics that are posted, I would like the opinions of those who resonate with my story as I have found little reference with my friends or online.

    Long story short, I recently (last September) ended a toxic relationship. I was being gaslighted by my best friend of 12 years and we were a couple for the last 2 years. I will not go into unnecessary detail unless someone asks for clarification as to keep the post readable 🙂

    Besides the trauma of that discovery I was dealing with a fractured knee and a category 5 hurricane razed my home country. For me it was enough pain to grind my nose in the cogs of Samsara (for those who that means anything).

    To the point: I ended up ending the relationship, quitting my job, and moving half way across the world. There are many reason for the decision to move, but the most relevant one was a karmic experiment. My rationale was/is “If this kind of relationships are a karmic theme in my life, then they will manifest themselves with new people wherever I go. And that will make it easier to identify it and work with.”

    And lo and behold, after 7 months of not wanting to give anyone else a chance, as soon as I get here I meet a girl at my sharehouse and we click. She told me a story of how she was sad because of a player in the house had broken her heart, and I fell for it. We ended up sleeping together for a night. The very next day when we go out as a group I see her constantly texting another guy. Later that night I confronted  her about it and she told me that “I was making things up”. I told her straight up I didn’t want o be a part in any game, and that I would just be a friend unless she consciously decided she wanted to explore a relationship with me. Couple of days later I see her going through the same routine and story with a new housemate.

    At this point all my propensities to be angry and wanting to leave were triggered. And also in my point of view, this is a karmic theme I need to deal with. How to deal with being lied to and cheated on, without running away or letting the anger consume me.

    For the time being my only recourse has been to completely stop talking to her. Every day I see her with the ” flavor of the week” and my stomach wrenches. If I had still had a job I would have done the habitual thing and moved out of the house. However I have come to accept this as “path” and am trying to sit with the discomfort of the situation.

    I don’t judge her for wanting to be with whomever she wants. When I was her age I was the same. It is the dishonesty that triggers my aversion.

    Talking to most of my friends is no use as most (men and women) give me a variation of ” Why do you care, another notch under the belt and move on.” But for better or worse this no longer gives me any satisfaction.

    The only this I have been able to do is to stop talking to her, and just go to my room whenever she is in the common areas, whether alone or her new lover. Some days I will stay as long as the unease in my stomach permits, and try to hang out with the rest of the housemates. However since she is the “life of the party” all activities are coordinated by her, it means I end up isolating myself in my room for most of the time.

    I plan to move out of this share house when my contract is up in a couple of months. I have also come to terms with the fact that I am unable to attract honest women (the one before the 2 years relationship tried to sleep with my brother…) and unwilling to seek out any girl I find attractive. As such it seems my path is to get used to being alone.

    So I would like the community’s thoughts on:

    How would you deal with this situation?

    And

    How have you dealt with the longing to be with someone and yet refrained from it?

     

    Thanks in advance for your time.

     

    #219597
    Mark
    Participant

    Arvandor,

    You see a pattern, or as you put it your karma.  Dig into your upbringing to figure out why you choose women who gaslight you.  Or there may be another pattern from your relationships that you have not mentioned here.

    Regardless, your work is to uncover what underlies your pattern of choosing such women.  It usually comes from our caregivers who exhibit the same behavior.

    The first step is to understand our unconscious behavior in order to be aware of it and then address it.

    Mark

    #219603
    Arvandor
    Participant

    Thanks for taking the time to read and reply Mark.

    It most definitely has to do with the fact that my mother would beat me until her arms were sore as  a child. I was brought up by a single mother and her girlfriends and only saw how the scorned and made fun of any man that would approach them. The few times I tried I was either rejected for being “too nice” or flat out laughed at. Thus I never approach a woman. In that sense I dont “choose” this women. I only accept or shy away from women who clearly show interest in me.

    I have been in therapy for a couple of years and with it I have been able to calm my anxiety and constant rumination. However even though now I know it is my gender’s role to initiate the courting process, I refuse to do it because I think if women want true equality, they should also risk rejection on approach instead of passively siting and expecting the men to come to them.

    I am aware that I have a LOT of limiting bliefs. And there must me some others I am not even aware of. So like I stated above, I have made my peace with giving up the expectation of ever finding “love” so to speak. What concerns me now is coping with the longing in a healthy way.

    thanks again for your time.

     

    #219715
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Arvandor:

    Your experience with women who lied to you may not be karmic, or fated, but of random origin. It just so happened.

    You wrote, “I have made my peace with giving up the expectation of ever finding ‘love’ so to speak. What concerns me now is coping with the longing in a healthy way”-

    do you mean that you gave up on having a relationship with a woman, that you chose a solitary life in this regard, and you no longer want to feel the longing?

    I wonder what would “coping with the longing in a healthy way” looks like, or feels like as you imagine it.

    anita

     

    #219765
    Arvandor
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

    Indeed my experiences may be random, but since about 70% of the women I have been with end up lying or cheating on me, I surmised it’s either something with me or I just have very bad luck. Regardless, yes, I have chosen to give up on having a relationship with a woman. I still have friends, both men and women and plan to continue hanging out with them. So solitary is not a term I would use.

    The longing will always be there, I have  found. It is just like thoughts, we cannot eradicate them, we can only learn to not be controlled by them. By coping with it in a healthy way, I mean a way in which the longing and anxiety does not lead me to alcohol or cigarettes or dope as it has before. I know it is possible since monks and nuns have done this for millennia, I just don’t want to have to go into a monastery to deal with the pain of not having someone to love and be loved.

     

    #219819
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Arvandor:

    You are welcome. Well, 30% of the women you were with didn’t lie or cheat on you. You only need one.

    You are currently under distress, living in the same house with the woman you shared about, seeing her with the “flavor of the week”, dominating the house with her activities, being “the life of the party”, while you spend a lot of time in your room angry. I don’t know if your knee is completely healed, but that is another source of distress.

    I would like to read about the woman who gaslighted you after 12 years of being your best friend, two of which she was your girlfriend. If you want to share, that is, now or anytime in the future, after you move out.

    anita

     

    #220647
    Arvandor
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I would like to ask why did you remove the part in your response where apparently you seem to think you know my feelings better than I do, by stating “you made this choice under the distress in which you still live, so I don’t trust it, personally, to last beyond the distressing life circumstance you are living in.”

    My knee is as healed as it is going to be. So that is not a source of distress. I did feel angry at first, but with me, for being naive and stupid enough to believe a woman yet again.

    As to my ex, long story short, I should have know from the beggining she was not to be trusted. We started out when she was my college proffesor and she hired me to be her assitant. In day when I had just broke up with a girlfirend at the time she kissed me and we started an affair (she was married at the time). The affair lasted untill I stopped it because I fell in love with whom would become my wife for 7 years. Through that time we were only friends, and would occasionally catch up by phone. During that time as well, her husband found out of her multuple affairs and divorced her. A couple of years later my ex-wife and I decided to part ways because she wanted to settle and have kids, and I still wanted to travel and did not want kids.

    After that my ex professor and I started to go out again utnill we decided to settle in a open relationship. She had thrown the idea around a couple of times, and I knew she was not a woman of one man, so better be upfront about what we are doing than lying and cheating around. Or so I though. Turns out it seems at some point she felt ashamed of all the other men she was seeing in comparisson with the girls I would see, and decided to start hiding it.

    Since we had known each other for a long time I noticed something was off. She would tell me I was making thing up, she would tell me I was wrong for feeling jealous or suspicios. She would tell me I needed therapy and that I was an emotional retard and needed to trust her. She would ask me to make time to call her during the day, but when I asked her to do the same she would always have an excuse not to. Eventually, thanks to my first therapist, I confronted her about all this and we decided to go into couple’s therapy.

    While in therapy I directly asked her if she was seeing someone else and she would deny it. Later I found that she even met with one of the guys on the very same day I asked her that question.

    So in the interest of time, I finally found out she had at least 4 other lovers besides me. At that point I completely cut off communications with her and fell into a depression that almost drove me to suicide.

    From that experience I have been learning to deal with my mind through Samatha, Tonglen and Charnel Ground practice. However not letting any woman close enough to hurt me like that again is a top priority for me and a matter of self preservation.

    In that regard, I really dont appreciate when you imply that I dont know how I feel, and that this will ony last while I’m in distress.

    I hope this satisfies your curiosity, and the conversation has been enlightning in that it has helped me to get clear in why I dont want to be with another woman. But we have completely evaded my original questions and I know for a fact how helpful you can be to others in the forums, since I have been reading for a long time.

    Thanks again.

     

    #220693
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Arvandor:

    Yes, I remember the editing I made to the post to you, removing “you made this choice under the distress in which you still live, so I don’t trust it, personally, to  last  beyond the distressing life circumstances you are living in”. I removed it when re-reading it (after submitting) because it seemed arrogant to me as well as confrontational. After all, your experience is not about what I trust it to be at this or that moment (based on the little I read), but it is about what you trust it to be. I can ask for more information, suggest things and learn more. It was too early for me to assume and trust my assumption.

    I would like to address the rest of your recent post but need to ask if my explanation above is satisfactory to you, is it?

    anita

     

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