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  • #49521
    Sassypants
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    Let me first preface this story: My ex (on and off again for 7 years) and I broke up last June and I just recently saw him. I am now happily dating someone new who treats me right. This is what happened when I saw my ex:

    I teach a workout class and by chance (I think) my ex happened to be a client in the class. When I saw his name on the list I started shaking and sweating. He was the last to show up and I started teaching. I was beyond nervous and kept tripping over my words. No old feelings were rekindled, but now I have been thinking about him more than usual. I was polite to him and had no real time to talk. It was just bizarre.

    I try think of the moment as another hurdle to get over showing me that I am going to be alright and that I am over him. Why am I pondering him a lot now? I guess I will always have a place for him in my heart as we dated for a long time, but know he just isn’t right for me. Yet I check my email to see if he had anything to say to me… Why?

    #49526
    Mark
    Participant

    I learned that sometimes it does not serve me to dwell on the “why” but just to be with whatever emotions that do show up. It’s like how I meditate. I notice, observe what thoughts and emotions come into my mind and let it go or pass.

    It may help for you to list why he and you were not good for each other as well as leaving your email alone for a while.

    Metta,
    Mark

    #49534
    Matt
    Participant

    Sassy,

    Old habits die hard, as is sometimes said. Consider that you spent a long time concerned about what he thinks and feels, and he showed up at your home, your class, and the habit of caring what he thinks was rekindled. Its no wonder fear disrupted your smooth and clear ringing words and teaching… you had a thorn in the class!

    This would probably come up if one of your teachers from highschool or one of your parents took a class from you. It can be difficult to shift those roles, and even as we become their teacher, still wish to reach out to them and be graded on our work. I admire your willingness to have him in the class, it wouldn’t have surprised me if you booted his butt right out!

    In addition to resiting the urge to get his interpretations (as Mark said, stay away from email for awhile might help), consider spending time detaching from his view with grace. Said differently, “No matter what you see, think, and feel, I wish you light and joy upon the road you walk. May we be free from the karma that remains between us.”

    If, (and be honest with yourself), you do feel romantic or sexual yearning rekindle, Mark’s advice on making a list of displeasing qualities will help a lot. Also, if it feels like sensual allure, such as his body’s shape and form causing tingling desire, consider envisioning and contemplating the other half, the sensually displeasing such as his farts, poop smells, body odor, and bacteria in his saliva and so forth. Buddha taught that contemplating diseased, dead and dying bodies helps to remove the lustful yearnings of monks. No need to go to such extremes, but the erosion of “he keeps popping into my head” or “my body wants him” could be helped by similar practices as needed.

    Finally, I am so excited for you! Your awareness of mind and feeling is amazing, and being able to work with these things with detachment is tough, and you’re doing stellar! Namaste!

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #49535
    navybeetle
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    A similar (but different) thing happened to me. I do not know if I can be that much help to you bacause I am still struggling; trying to deal with the aftermath. You see, I was in love with my college boyfreind. Then I graduated and he went back for one more year, met someone and gave me the axe. I was heartbroken but always thought I would find someone special. Fine. I moved on completely and even had funny and fond memories of him. Then, this year he contacted me to apologize for breakig up with me in the cowardly way he did (a letter). 27 years later!!! I was nice and polite, answered his questions about my life, learned about his successes, his wife, his family. That was 3 months ago and everyday he enters my thoughts. I have not had children but really wanted that with him. He proposed when he was a senior and I told him I thought we should wait. So, I am trying to look at all of the blessings I have had in life, how I would not have become the woman I am now had we stayed together. Like Mark said, try not to dwell on the why because we can never know that. I try to fall back on the old addage, “everything happens for a reason”. But that only helps a little. The really tough thing is, I love my husband and am thankful that my old flame did not want to see me. I don’t know hat I would have done. My heart aches a little as I write this. I hadn’t hought of this guy in 25 years or so and now I think of him everyday, I am jealous of his life (or what he tells me his life is) but every day I seek help and do my best to go on AGAIN, I got over him! I thought I did. But there is a lesson here. I know there is. And, I am going to do what Mark suggested, list why we were not good for each other. Just know that others are struggling…

    #49567
    Sassypants
    Participant

    Thank you Mark and Matt. You’re words of wisdom resonate deep within me. I appreciate it! And to Naybeetle, I’m glad I’m not alone. May you find peace within and be ok with the thoughts you have.

    #49677
    Sassypants
    Participant

    Matt it is the sexual yearning that i still have for my ex. That was all are relationship was at the end. It was beyond wonderful! I shouldn’t compare my new relationship to it, but it’s not the same. I was laying in bed with my boyfriend last night thinking about my ex. He satisfied me more sexually. Oy Vey!

    #49681
    Matt
    Participant

    Sassy,

    Oy Vey indeed! Sexual chemistry is definitely important in most relationships, and often times is falsely attributed to “just how we are”. Consider for a moment that perhaps the ex didn’t care that much about you and your needs, so when he would get horny, perhaps he just came at you with his own need. Ironically, this really revs the motor in many women, because the potency, the confidence, just being taken… inspires a deep and feral passion.

    However, because the emotional component was absent, it was perhaps more like candy than connection, nourishment, union. With the new boyfriend, perhaps that energy is there, but because he has concerns for your feelings, wishes, and desires, he holds back. As trust builds in the relationship, he will feel safer, you will feel safer, expressing those needs and desires verbally, emotionally, and physically. That’s when sex goes from “ohh yeah, loins are happy” to “thankyouthankyouthankyou”, because the pleasure is surrounded with the warmth of being home. 🙂

    So drop the ex, sheesh! Greener fields await, dear sister. Consider that if we want to rid our craving for sweets, it is sometimes helpful to consider what eating candy actually did to us, rather than thinking about the taste. For instance, think about what the ex actually gave you, what that sex brought with it in your mind and heart, and perhaps the craving will erode. 🙂

    Perhaps that would also help you feel more comfortable and invested in bringing the sassy, which might be just what your current boyfriend needs to feel OK expressing that. I actually brought this idea up to my wife, when I saw my energy holding back. “I feel sometimes I could just take control of you, squeeze and fill and consume you, but I wish to honor your heart and body and desire.” She responded by pouncing on me, actually, but the sentiment of “its more than OK, my love, I yearn for that aspect of you”. It has to feel safe on both sides, however, so the emotional connection remains alive, trusted.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #49696
    Sassypants
    Participant

    Matt you’re awesome! 🙂 You just make sense!

    #50649
    Sassypants
    Participant

    Update:
    I have since taught my ex 2 more times and have felt strong about conquering this mountain of seeing him. The last time I saw him I had 30 min before my next class so he stayed and we caught up. I was close with his family and was asking how they all were. I drew boundaries when he asked if I wanted to see pictures, I said no. After he caught me all up there was akward silence, then he left and there hasn’t been communication since. I have been completely honest with my current boyfriend about all of this.

    Over the weekend I saw my boyfriend once and was hoping to see him more as the weekends ahead are going to be busy. (I only see him once a week as he is in a extensive training program, which I fully support.) I communicated my needs and why I was upset and he understood. Yesterday was just a sad day. Sometime I wonder if I have a chemical imbalance in my head. I woke up sad again today. 🙁 Someone asked if I was ok to so I must look a mess! I also checked my schedule to see if my ex was in my class and he’s not. Why was I checking? I feel guilty for doing it. Sometimes I hear the ex saying negative things about me and questioning if they’re really true. I know this sadness will pass but it happens at least once a week. I’m worried about myself.

    #50685
    Matt
    Participant

    Sassy,

    When I encounter my friends and family that are full of sorrow, a warmth is there, a wishing to comfort. Not thinking “wow, she’s a mess” saying “is there something wrong”, but thinking “she might need a hand” and saying “are you OK?” Perhaps the sadness is enough, the “mess” an unneeded judgment. If others see you as a mess, that’s just their entanglement, their issue. Many of us know sadness, and naturally empathize, not criticize.

    Consider that perhaps settling some of the attachments to the ex (and old patterns associated with him) is naturally sad for the body, it grieves losses. This dims our light, and we lose a little faith, a little joy. Instead of looking for that light in the ex, just turn inward and meditate, or hop in a tub and relax, or whatever… give space for the sadness, room for it to be felt and released. You’re not sad for no reason, there’s always a reason. Give yourself the space to cry, and the reason often heals, releases.

    Of course, it could be biological… and you could check with a nutritionist or doctor. I know a low amount of vitamin D can sometimes produce emotional instability, so who knows.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #50853
    Sassypants
    Participant

    Thanks for the advice Matt. I hope you never feel like you’re a “broken record”!

    Since Sunday, things have been weird, a universal shift in energy maybe? Negative feelings, like I stated above and now my ex called me yesterday. After talking to my current boyfriend he told me I’m free to do what I want, which I love. After going to yoga my mantra is move forward. Then my ex calls.

    I decided I would call back my as as I do care about him. We talked for about half hour before I said I had to go because I was getting sleepy. He then asked if I was free and I said no. Then he asked if I was the next couple days and I wasn’t so he said what about Valentine’s Day. I then proceeded to tell him I was happily dating someone else and that he treats me well. It was hard for me to tell my ex and it brought me to tears. He asked if I was in a relationship and if I loved the guy? He also asked why I couldn’t wait just a little bit longer? I didn’t have an answer for him, things happened naturally in this new relationship. My ex also said he doesn’t feel like he’s tried his all unless we lived with each other. My response was that it never happened when we together for 7 years! Why now?

    The conversation ended with me wishing him happiness/ telling him it was nice to talk to him. He hoped that I was being true to myself and my feelings and that it was comforting to know that we both enjoyed catching up and that’s it’s obvious we missed each other. Then we hung up. My tears continued to flow until I felt a sense of stillness.

    That night I dreamed I fell off a cliff, landed on a mattress then face down in a river below and floated off…. Lots of feelings and thoughts going through me. Just wanted to put it out here. I know I’m not alone.

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