Home→Forums→Relationships→Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away?
- This topic has 36 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 2 hours, 34 minutes ago by
anita.
-
AuthorPosts
-
June 23, 2025 at 10:21 am #447046
J.
ParticipantAh Anita, thank you, again! I am so touched by your complement, it is indeed me in the photo – you have no idea what it does to hear it. Yes, the insecurity around height and physical part has played a painful part in the situation with Philip, he complimented me too, this was so sweet but also strange for me to hear. This sounds like a very good tip – to show my full length in public- I wonder, how did you know that indeed the taking up space, both phycically and emotionally has been a huge problem all my life? You have good insights!
I think you’re right, about not sending the letter to him – I have played with the idea but it feels to scary, adn indeed, he has given me clear signals he does not want me anymore. I should have thought better what it meant to lose him before I broke it off. It is understandable but painful – I still wonder what would have been the bigegst thing why he does not want me anymore. He told me “three times is a charm” when I broke it off the last time, maybe it was too much – maybe it did not feel emotionally safe to him anymore. But yes, it should not come from me anymore, I understand, that may be too much.
Hope you have a lovely day today!
June 23, 2025 at 10:23 am #447047J.
ParticipantOh and your compliment landed very well, it really makes my day 🙂
You are very beautiful too!!June 23, 2025 at 12:02 pm #447049J.
ParticipantI was wondering, Anita, if you’d like to share it – what do you do for a living? You sound like an experienced counselor! Warm wishes! Emma
June 23, 2025 at 4:16 pm #447056anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
Thank you for your lovely messages—and for saying I looked beautiful in the photo! That means so much. You really do glow in yours, and I’m so glad my compliment landed well.
You asked how I knew that taking up space—both physically and emotionally—has been a struggle for you. I sensed it in the way you talked about yourself with Philip. You wrote things like, “I felt too plump, too manly, too much… I always thought women had to be dainty.”- Those words carry a deep belief that being fully yourself—your size, your feelings, your presence—might somehow be too much. And your height adds another layer, because it makes you visible, even when you don’t want to be. That’s not easy when part of you just wants to stay small, stay safe.
You also wrote, “I still wonder what would have been the biggest thing why he does not want me anymore.”- I think you’re probably right that the back-and-forth might have made it hard for him to feel emotionally steady. It likely became hard for him to trust the ground under his feet. That doesn’t mean your feelings weren’t valid—it just means both of you were carrying your own fears, and maybe he reached a point where he didn’t know how to keep holding on. And yes, if something were to change, it would have to come from him now.
As for what I do—I do work, but not for money. I volunteer on a farm where I help care for apple and pear trees, and I do my best to keep blackberry vines from taking over! There’s also a small community space at the farm where people gather to dance, listen to live music, and just be together. I help set up those events—and the photo you saw was taken during one of those dances last year. I was dancing indoors to a rock band, and I’m looking forward to dancing to the same band again this Saturday—this time outside, under the open sky.
Wishing you a peaceful day, Emma. You’re not too much—you’re just wonderfully and fully here. I’m glad we’re in touch.
With care, Anita
June 24, 2025 at 5:18 pm #447085anita
ParticipantHi Emma, just thinking of you and hoping you’re doing okay. No pressure to reply—just wanted to say hi and send a little care your way.
Anita
June 25, 2025 at 12:00 am #447093J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you! I was a little busy yesterday and will be anwering today – but your message was lovely! To be continued 🙂
With warmth,
EmmaJune 25, 2025 at 9:24 am #447100J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for thinking of me today – to be honest it has been a rough day for me today. I am sorry for once again sharing these heavy feelings with you, even after we wrote the letter. I am just having such a hard time moving on, as it feels like it is not supposed to be this way. I was the one to cut things off so prematurily with Philip, while so many things coukd have been possiblem things I now will never get to know. I have been talking to some other guys in the past few weeks, and even though with two of them I seem to have found some more common interests, and I think maybe they dare to present themselves more vulnerable in ways, which made it easier to connect, there are things missing which I had with Philip, and which I doubt may be more important. I have not met these guys yet, but still. Things got difficult again today because at work (I work at a bookshop), we got into a discussion in which we discussed values, policical values and what to promote on our social media. Maybe best not to get too political here, but I find it hard to find people, also while dating, that share a similar upbringing, policial views (leaning more traditional), while at the same time being a bit of a nerd, neurodivergent, haha. I suspect I might have ADHD too, seeing how I go from one topic to another, though I have never been hyperactive but instead, calm. I just feel like it was not supposed to go this way, me cutting things off while I hardly knew Philip – and Philip warned me for this, I guess he had been in my position too, cutting things off because little things were different between us. Now I do think his more logical side made me doubt if I was the one for him, because I feel my interest in those quirky things might have made me strange in his eyes, but I don’t know, at some point he told me he wanted to have earrings too, something I had not expected and though of as original. I wonder if there would have been more like that. In truth, I though of him as similar to my brother 0 who is also into science, philosophy, always looking for new knowledge, but not so much into art, or just genrally things more quirky. I sometimes think of myself as having Phoebe Buffay’s style somewhat, I like bohemian style clothing, but also have an interest in the things she does, and am not so ambitious in terms of carreer. I think Philip would be somehow similar to Ross from Friends, kind of bend on being right, and very much into what is true and scientific. Looking at their bond, I don’t know if that would have worked. Philip told me at the time he also felt doubts ‘coming up’, but then he reminded himself he never such a good time with a girl before (or so he said) and told himself to continue dating me. I wonder if that would have been his intuition speaking – I think I am wondering this to find out if I am mourning the loss of someone I would not have been compatible with anyway, and so lessen my grief – but I guess it does not matter anyway now. I just find myself not wanting to move on from him – my friend told me to just go on dating someone else, ‘what I am being sad about’, but to me this felt like some surprising bond, which maybe should not have workes surface level, as his friends told him too that I would not be a match for him either – but he told me he did not want to listen, and decide for himself and continue. This made me think he found it special too, I don’t know. I never had a first date that long, and that easy – it took 7 or 8 hours – he told me too how surprised he was that talking was so easy. Same thing on the phone, first time we called, it felt strangely familiarand easy….another time we called for 7 hours… . This just makes it so hard to forget, to make it seem like ‘just another guy I dated and it did not work out’. I somehow hope he was special to me, even though I made it seem like I broke things off so easily a couple of times. I just wonder why I got so shy, maybe a little uneasy, being with him om the 2d and 3d date – I wonder if it was because I admired him a little and was confused as to what he wanted me for, seeing I think of myself as just shy and maybe boring, bc of my own assumptions about myself. I have had this shyness before with another guy I sort of fancies and admired, he is my colleague and now one of my best friends, we talk very easily. It makes me wonder what could have been with Philip. I secretly hope – and I know it’s mean – he won’t find anyone he likes better…because he said he got bored with girls very soon (maybe bc of ADHD?), but not with me…and he never had such a good time… . It’s not to be arrogant…just his words..
I just find myself wanting to goi back, wanting to wait for him – but now that he has blocked me, I guess that would be waiting for nothing. My friends said that blocking means he won’t ever want me again. I just find it so hard to even kiss another guy, would it ever get to that point. I still feel like Philip is the only one I would allow to do that. I wonder if O should forsce myself to go on dates, I wonder if Philip already kisses other girls..my heart breaks to think of it, even though he has every right to do so ofc…and I was the one to break things off. Moving on is just so hard. I heard people say, that if things are meant to be, they will be – would you believe in that? If Philip and I are meant to be, it will be, even if I were to move on? He tried to hard to hold on…that makes me so said, to think of all the chances he has given me, and me discarding them so easily. I should have seen how special that was, and that shoudl not have told him that he should accept me letting go of him. I never thought he was not good enough for me, which must have been the impression I gave him. On the contrary, I think he was too good for me – but now I have no means to tell him. I wish I had not pestered him with my messages, but waited, then he would not have blocked me now, and I could have sent him this.A lot of text again…haha sorry.
June 25, 2025 at 9:33 am #447101J.
ParticipantOh yes, I wanted to add: I think I could have grown a lot more with Philip, then with any guys on dates I have met – because Philip challenged me to stand up for myself, to speak up, to me more critical and logical – all things that I have been missing all my life. At the same time, I guess I could have helped him be more vulnerable, show him it’s ok to be tender, and help him navigate relations/discussion more smoothly without hurting too many people’s feelings. I have been reading about shadow work – the things he struggled with: internalizing empathy and being more subtle in voicing his opinions, feelings, not getting so angry with people, is the thing he both did not like in people but also admired, I believe. At the same time, me trusting my own strength, and being my own boss, is something I admire and need to work on – this is exactly what he was good at. I just think I was not ready for a relationship like this, I am working on myself in therapy and this was exactly what I am struggling with. But I have never had a man I felt so similar to in temperament – everybody knows me as the sweet, kind of timid woman, but in reality I am kind of intense and opinionated I guess, maybe even a bit judgmental – we were so alike and I often felt other guys not pushing back enough. This is something Philip did, and I so admired him for it. It is not something I have found in others I have met yet. Also the need to express feelings deeply, and having such big feelings…we were so alike in that sense…maybe that is what I felt. What do you think…if somebosy blocks you, is that the definite end? I’m sure it is impossible to say for anyone…
June 25, 2025 at 9:39 am #447103J.
ParticipantOh I think I forgot one word in the line from my first kmessage, what I was meaning to say was that I hopes he knows he was very special to me, despite all the things that may have made it seem it wasn’t.
Als I wonder, if I may ask, Anita, where you are from? 🙂 Just to get to know you a little.
June 25, 2025 at 10:44 am #447104J.
ParticipantOh, by the way, that sounds like a lovely job! Must be peaceful to work so close with nature, and beautiful that you do it as a volunteer! Oh that sounds really nice, that it offers a place for music and dancing! You look so happy and enthusiastic in your photo, so nice!
June 25, 2025 at 10:50 am #447105anita
ParticipantThank you, Emma! I’m working on a reply for you 🙂
Anita
June 25, 2025 at 11:49 am #447106J.
ParticipantOfc take your time! This is not to rush you, either! I forgot parts I was about to say 🙂
Warm wishes, Emma
June 25, 2025 at 11:59 am #447107anita
ParticipantDear Emma:
You wrote today (evening where you are): “I am sorry for once again sharing these heavy feelings with you, even after we wrote the letter.” —
There’s no need to apologize, Emma. All your feelings—light or heavy—have space here. As much space as they need.
In your original post on June 19, you wrote:
“He talked a lot about himself… Initially, I was put off… I remembered not finding him physically attractive… So I told him I wanted to cancel the date… Then he convinced me to stay… I had been so wrong – he was so handsome!… I have severe anxious attachment, resulting in me being very scared of rejection… It felt safer to me to not invest too much emotionally if I expect someone to leave me… It feels safer to flee myself rather than him rejecting me…
“I told him, a few days later, that I was not sure about us again… I said to him I might want to inclusively date… I broke it off with him… This was the 3rd time I made an attempt to break it off. I said to him he should not try and convince me to stay again, as we would be trapped in this loop.”
And today, June 25, you wrote:
“I have been talking to some other guys in the past few weeks, and even though with two of them I seem to have found some more common interests, and I think maybe they dare to present themselves more vulnerable in ways, which made it easier to connect, there are things missing which I had with Philip… I hardly knew Philip… I think I am wondering this to find out if I am mourning the loss of someone I would not have been compatible with anyway.”
What stands out to me this morning is this: maybe the safest place for you to love a man right now is in his absence. Because absence doesn’t ask you to be vulnerable in real time. It doesn’t ask you to stand there, heart open, unsure of how the other will respond. Distance gives you space to idealize, to feel everything fully, without the threat of rejection, misunderstanding, or loss of control.
This doesn’t make your feelings less real. Quite the opposite—it shows how alive and deeply wired your heart is. But it might help explain a cycle: wanting in, then wanting out, then wanting back in again. When intimacy comes too close, it can feel overwhelming… but too much distance, and the ache begins.
It felt risky to love Philip up close. So at first, you were put off. You didn’t find him attractive. You tried to cancel a date. You told him you weren’t sure. You broke up—more than once. The key line from you: “It felt safer to me to not invest too much emotionally if I expect someone to leave me.”
Now that he’s gone, and the threat of real-time rejection is over (he blocked you, and stayed blocked even after you reached out)—you are free to invest, free to love him. The danger has passed. The space is safe. There’s no more tightrope, no more emotional ambiguity to tiptoe across.
And those other guys? You wrote: “I have been talking to some other guys… there are things missing which I had with Philip.” One thing missing may be that they haven’t rejected you yet. And maybe that’s what makes them feel unsafe—because if they’re still available, rejection is still a possibility.
In your words: “It felt safer to flee myself rather than him rejecting me.” That line feels like a window into the part of you that’s learned to leave first, before being left. And now that Philip is gone, you’re free to feel everything you couldn’t let yourself feel when he was still within reach. It’s safer to love from a distance…?
My honest sense is that you and Philip were likely not compatible for a long-term relationship—and that part of his emotional pull now may come from the safety of distance. It’s easier to yearn for what can no longer hurt you, and safer to idealize someone who won’t offer the chance to discover more of his imperfections. I believe that gently tending to your fear of rejection could open the door to a new kind of connection—one that doesn’t rely on distance to feel safe.
In response to your question—I live in the U.S., in a part of the country with lots and lots of trees and mountains. It’s a beautiful, quiet place. I wasn’t born here, though. I arrived as a tourist in my 20s and stayed.
I’m looking forward to reading your thoughts about what I wrote here, whenever you’re ready.
With warmth and understanding, Anita
June 25, 2025 at 1:45 pm #447108J.
ParticipantHi Anita,
Mmm yes…it can certainly be that I miss him now more because I cannot have him – but I did remember feeling sad two days or so after I broke it off…before he blocked me, so that makes me feel my regerts were also based on him as a person. But at the same time, when I sent him the message I wanted to talk after I broke it off the last time, and ask if he would still be interested two weeks later – I did feel a doubt and regret right after sending it, feeling I would be putting myself back into some sort of ‘cage’ if he were to say ‘yes’. A ‘cage’, because, symbolically speaking, I felt limited, both because he hardly asked me anything, so I did not express myself much, about my interests and such (I believe it was his adhd, but still..). And he reminded me of my father and brother: my father being bossy and forceful at times, telling me I should not be so dreamy/absent minded, and my brother in his monologues and interests in science/logic. I guess I wanted to be free to be myself. And I was not sure if I could, when I was still dating Philip – I felt that fear while being with him, and already felt myself limiting myself in the things I wore, afraid he would find me strange for wearing my vintage style dresses – I don’t know why I felt it. It migth have been intuition or anxiety.
Mmm, I regert treating him this way…I never wanted to mistreat him…you know I have had this habit with jobs too. As soon as there are expectations from others, and I fear I cannot live up to them, and will mess it up and be critised/rejected for it, I flee. But with Philip it could have been that I felt the disconnection as well – making it more likely he would leave me – even though that feeling of disconnection maybe it was based on my first impressions of him..
I did feel a sort of love for him – maybe it was care as well, because I do think I could see through his shell, and saw his softness on the inside, and maybe also an admiration and the fact that he liked me..? He said he needed the softness and care – and he could see through my lack in other things – sort of painful to hear. Maybe he needed to find the softness within himself.
Sounds weird to say maybe, but – I had a fear that if he were to meet my younger sister, that he would prefer her over me, because they are more of the same type, I think: she is a little more extroverted and rebellious, like him. They say you look for someone who is like your father (as a girl) and mother (as a boy), right? His mum was very fierce…well that’s not me, haha! He did need and want a sassy person, to give some counterweight, he told me.
You know what – maybe it is that he lacked a certain goofiness, he was kind of serious and logical – I guess that’s what made me tense and suspicious too, maybe that was the disconnetcion – as if I could not be my full self and had to be the most serious version of myself around him.
I wonder, what do you think made us incompatible? You know, I am relieved and happy you said that – maybe I am holding onto the wrong type anyway.
There is a man, a regular customer of the shop, he asked me out one time – but I said no, for some practica reasons – but I do think he would understand me better: he sometimes dresses up as he is an amateur actor, and does not get scared of quirky style clothes. I do dress up for Renaissance Fairs, and like some eccentric clothing – but Philip was very explicit he was uncomfortable with that himself. It made me feel a bit uncomfortable too, as if he might be embarassed of me. Another difference is that this customer always talked with me about my interest in fairylore, he even bought the book I recommended on the topic. He never told me I should let go of my openness to astrology, he even supported it. Just mentioning this to remind myself of how someone else could accept me as I am, I guess.
Thank you Anita!
About you part of the world, that sounds lovely…living with so many trees! That sounds very peaceful and dreamy. Ooh sounds exciting, that you took the step to go and live abroad…that’s brave too!
Have a lovely day – I’m glad we have met, I enjoy these conversations!
How are you doing – I never asked!Warm wishes,
EmmaJune 25, 2025 at 1:49 pm #447109J.
ParticipantAlso, I forgot to add, my sister is a bit more outgoing, not so much into spirituality and creative hobbies/music – bit more engaged with the real world so to say. I guess in that sense they were more alike – that’s why I had the fear, I guess.
-
AuthorPosts