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May 2, 2018 at 8:39 am #205225DeeParticipant
Hey everyone
I guess I should tell you a bit about myself first: I’m a 42 years old woman, I’ve been married since I was 18, I’m childless, and with my husband I run a very successful online business. I have battled depression since I was 10 years old, and have attempted suicide several times; I’ve had numerous rounds of counselling, and have been on antidepressants for most of my adult life. I come from a very difficult family background: my dad was alcoholic, as is my sister, my mum has borderline personality disorder, my brother was a drug addict who died from a heroin OD. My dad died when I was 21, very suddenly, and my mum is currently terminally ill (she has only a couple of months left to live). My sister has just come out of a very long stint at rehab, we aren’t in contact. Although I’m part of a religious community, I only really have one close friend who I confide in. I have Aspergers, and I’m very introverted anyway; I don’t find it easy or comfortable to share my feelings with others. On the rare occasion when I do try, it never seems to achieve anything; I felt this week like I was suffocating in sadness and despair, and (rarely for me) I said as much to my husband and my close friend. I got exactly the same response from them both (and this seems to happen every time I try to open up): they both completely ignored what I said, and immediately started complaining about their current problems. It was like I’d never even opened my mouth.
Despite my struggles and difficulties, I’m a very successful person to all appearances; I’m successful in business, I look good, I’m intelligent; everybody I know seems to treat me like their own personal life coach. They come to me with their fitness problems, their business questions, their health worries, their relationship woes. I do my best to help, and they say (in effect), “wow, aren’t you great, aren’t you clever, you’re so on top of everything”. And off they go, pleased with my service. But when I’m in need……. talk to the hand. If I tell my husband that I feel like the best thing for me would be to not wake up tomorrow, it’s like the shutters go down over his face, he blanks me. I don’t have one person in my life that I can turn to, not one. I’m trying my best, with meditation and other tools, to learn how to be my own support system, and take care of myself, but it is unbelievably hard to feel worth caring about when nobody else seems to, or ever has. (I will acknowledge that is probably partly a perception colored by depression, but there’s pretty solid fact to back it up too. I was 12 years old when I first attempted suicide: I took a whole bottle of aspirin. My parents, when they found out a few hours later, didn’t take me to the ER, because they didn’t want anyone to find out, instead my dad gave me salt water to drink to make me vomit, and we never spoke of the incident again. Some years ago, I tried cutting my wrists, and got myself into a real mess; when I finally went to my husband in the early morning, and sobbed out what had happened and how frightened I was, he got angry, told me not to be so stupid, and actually went back to sleep, leaving me to patch myself up as best I could.)
I have a cat, you’ve no idea how much I love this cat; most days, it’s my love for him that keeps me going. He is very very attached to me, I couldn’t abandon him. But seriously, what is wrong with me, and/or my life, that I’m 42 years old and outwardly have everything going for me (I can’t tell you how often people tell me they are jealous of me), and the only creature in my life who I feel has ever showed me unconditional love is a cat??
I want so badly to feel that, nobody else matters, I can be everything to myself that I need to be to thrive (well, survive!), but I don’t know how. How do I learn how to show myself compassion, when nobody else shows it to me?
May 2, 2018 at 9:06 am #205241AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
I read your post with much interest. I would like to understand better, therefore I ask: did your husband ever shown you any empathy, did he ever listen with interest and concern to you?
Did anyone else, previous counselors, others?
anita
May 2, 2018 at 9:21 am #205245DeeParticipantHi Anita, thank you so much for responding. My husband can be very kind hearted, but he’s a fixer. If he can’t give you an instant practical solution to a problem, he can’t and won’t deal with it. He has an incredibly low tolerance for suffering too, his own or others; he loves me, but he literally cannot go there with me.
I have had much better results with counsellors, and at the time it helps, but you come to a point where you realise, this is a bottomless pit, I could be seeing someone every week for the rest of my life, and just going round and round in circles.
I am working really hard at my meditation practise, and occasionally I get little glimpses of what it would feel like to feel self compassion and kindness. But oh, how much I wish I just had one person I could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in my darkest moments, when the idea that I’m not worthy of life is most compelling, that it wasn’t true.
May 2, 2018 at 10:00 am #205253AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
You wrote: “I wish I just had one person I could look to, as a reference point for love and acceptance and compassion, just so I knew that even in my darkest moments, when the idea that I’m not worthy of life is most compelling, that it wasn’t true.”
Having read your two posts, your very sensible thinking, profound understanding of people (for example, your understanding of your husband as a fixer was enlightening to me, leading me to understand something better than I did before), the calmness in your writing, leads me to think that someone is contributing something very good to your life, someone other than you, that is.
You wrote: “I’m successful in business, I look good, I’m intelligent”- aren’t these things said to you by your husband, other people in your life? If so, these things they say to you are very helpful to you, encouraging, motivating you to keep at it, keep being successful, keep putting that intelligence into good use, keep taking care of your physical appearance. These things make you feel good about yourself, don’t they?
You wrote: “everybody I know seems to treat me like their own personal life coach. They come to me with their fitness problems, their business questions… and t hey say (in effect) ‘… aren’t you great, aren’t you cleaver, you’re so on top of everything'” – people are communicating to you that you are indeed very capable, in so many areas. This communication helps your confidence in yourself and promotes your present and future success in all these areas.
On the other hand, your experience in counseling is that it temporarily helps but then the experience becomes “a bottomless pit…just going around in circles”- meaning long term it doesn’t help.
I suppose what you need is to sometimes talk about your sadness and despair, a bit, here and there?
I wonder if when you shared in the past, with your husband, with friends you have helped, if you went on and on about your sadness and despair and if so, if they noticed that going on and on is not helpful to you. What do you think?
anita
May 2, 2018 at 10:02 am #205255nextstepsParticipantHi Dee,
I just wanted to reply quickly to say that you are not alone. Lots of people feel like you do and I think it is difficult to find good friends or people that actually care rather than just aquaintences. We care here at tiny bhudda and will try and help this week when you fee like this and in future times to. You are not alone and your life IS worth living.
I will write a more thought out response to this when I can- just wanted to reply to say I am thinking of you and will try to help where I can.
Best wishes xx
May 2, 2018 at 10:40 am #205259DeeParticipantThank you so much for your thoughtful response, Anita. I think, I feel like many people value me for my good qualities, what I bring to the table, but no one seems to want to see the darker more fragile side of me, and to me that’s the authentic part; the rest is just glitter, or at the very least, its as authentic. I don’t feel that I am acceptable just as I am, flaws and weaknesses and all.
I definitely never go on about my darker thoughts; it doesn’t take much for me shut down at all. And it takes a huge amount of courage for me to even make the tentative approach.
May 2, 2018 at 10:41 am #205261DeeParticipantThank you very much.
May 2, 2018 at 10:51 am #205269AnonymousGuestDear Dee:
You are welcome. I think your capable part is as authentic as your “darker more fragile” part oy you. Both are you and lots more. If there is no one in your life that allows you to express the darker more fragile part at all, that is, if you don’t have opportunities to express this part to others, in moderation and responsibly (that is in ways that people can handle, without threats of violence, for example), then it is not a good thing.
You are welcome to express any part of you right here, if it helps (if you try and find it helpful). I will read attentively and respond to you every time I am on the computer (has been daily for a few years now).
anita
May 4, 2018 at 7:15 am #205559nextstepsParticipantHello,
I said I was going to reply to this in more detail but can’t think of anything to add. I think Anita last commnt was really insightful and perhaps your husband isn’t the person to do this with as he just doesn’t get or want to get the darker more fragile side everyone has. He may have done at one point though?
Perhaps you could try journaling or writing your feelings in a blog so that they are being seen by others out there or at least just expressed in writing to yourself?
From my own experience, (although others have alot more than me) it is very rare to find someone who sees you so wholly ie in the ways we want to be seen or if they do it perhaps is the case at the start of a relationship but it’ can be harder as it goes on.
I hope you are doing okay today. 🙂
May 4, 2018 at 2:49 pm #205633allyParticipantHi Dee,
I am so sorry you feel alone and like you have no one to relate to. I understand that feeling and its especially alienating when you have a dysfunctional family. Have you ever considered support groups? with the addiction in your family there are lots of support groups for the people affected by it, I think Alanon?. Also there are support groups for suicide survivors with afsp.org. I hope that these can be helpful for you. Feeling understood by people who have been through similar situations as you is incredibly healing.
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