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  • #51595
    Benny
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    I’ve always appreciated the opinions and advice of the good people here, so here goes…
    My wife and I have been struggling greatly through the last 8 months trying to save our marriage. There’s been problems regarding intimacy off and on for years, but recently they hit a real fork in the road when my wife declared she was attracted to women.
    It was shocking to say the least. Everybody that knows us would tell you what a great couple we make, in fact a lot would tell you they try to model their own relationships off ours. We have a beautiful little family and our kids are amazing.
    We have so much in common from our love of snow and the mountains to our views on life and healthy eating living, etc. For years we each believed that what we had was forever.
    She loves me, I love her, there’s no question there. She doesn’t want any other life nor is she attracted to anyone else. Just now she says she can’t feel right intimately with me anymore. We’ve been to the point of separating a few times during the struggle. But each time we return to each other because the pain of being apart was too much.
    Recently while in the middle of a break up, we both attended our friends wedding separately. We found each other holding hands during the ceremony and looking at each other. Clearly remembering the love and commitment we made to each other.
    I went home by myself and was very sad. I really didn’t feel like I could go on without her back in my life. It took all my strength not to call her and beg her to come home.
    I woke the next morning on the couch to my wife coming in the door. I couldn’t believe my eyes. She came to me, hugged me and said that she was sorry for all the hurt she’d caused me, and that she just wanted to stay there with me and make it work. I was over whelmed with relief. These were the words I’d been craving to hear. I asked her wait are you sure this is what you want? She assured me it was. The next day I returned to work with all the energy and must for life I’d lost during this time. I finally felt like we could move forward.
    In three days time, while discussing something other than our relationship for once, the conversation suddenly turned from what we were talking about to her still not feeling right and that she needed time, space and that she couldn’t do that while being with me.
    It was so painful to have had this taste of the life I need back, only to have it ripped away from me again. I’m still in shock.
    She has moved out only saying she can’t see a way to make if work even though it’s all she wants. She’s not saying she never will, just that she can’t now, and that I should move on. Even though she doesn’t really want me to.
    I’m so confused.
    I really don’t know what to do. Obviously it’s a hard situation, for her to find intimacy with me something she enjoys again. But it’s equally hard to break up this amazing life we have. To do this to our kids breaks my heart so much. They are who they are because they have the constant love and guidance from us both. To have to give up half of the precious time we have with them is crazy.
    I know that a lot of the difficulties we had have been a lot to do with us starting out together very young and neither of us really knowing ourselves and from reacting badly to situations. Situations that I believe if we could go back with the knowledge we have about each other now, could have played out so much better. We might not be in the situation we’re now in.
    I know she’s things that way too.
    There has been hurts on both of our behalves, that although they’ve been acknowledge, have never been as understood as they are now. I think also we have been hurting through this experience for so long that it’s hard to see any forward when we are in this pit of despair.
    I really believe that with our new understandings, empathy and knowledge we can find a way forward together and not have to break up our family.
    So I won’t move on from her, not when I know, a and she says there’s still a chance. I will move on with life because we have put so much on hold for so long. But it’s not easy. Moving on in a life that should be shared with her is heartbreaking. She is living just two houses away and our kids are back and forth between us a lot. I see her so much, we live in a small town. Every time I see her I just want to run to her and wrap her in my arms. Just get back to living this short but amazing life we have, find the joy again and not waste anymore of our precious young days together.
    That’s the thing that is the hardest. Getting on with life when it’s not really decided either way how it will go. No idea how long that might take. Finding strength now when I feel like I’ve used so much already through this is so draining. With so much good at stake. The kids, who yes are great and would pull through and have our love and support, but they will also always be effected by this. By taking away there fairy tale of the two people they love the most in the world being there for them together always. How do I let go of this? How do I let her go? When I know it’s not what she really wants either…
    Thanks for reading if you made it this far, I’m sorry it was so long, amazingly I think I’ve probably left out heaps but this were my thoughts at the time. I hope they make sense.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

    #51624
    Anyone
    Participant

    Hi Benny,

    My heart reaches out to you and your family as I read this! It’s hard to cope up with this situation; it might take time, but it will pass and everything will be fine.

    It’s hard to believe that your wife wants to move out, yet not able to move out. May be a guilt factor is holding her back. Please try to find out if there’s any woman in her life. The chances are there is one.

    Above all, you need to let her go and follow the path she wants to. Holding back doesn’t do any good to either one.

    It’s good to see that you guys are taking things in a peaceful manner, which is generally unusual. God bless you guys!

    #51631
    Benny
    Participant

    Hi,
    Yes I’m very sure there’s no body else. We’ve talked about what we think of cheating when we’ve witnessed it from others before, and we each have had it happened before. We absolutely would never do that to each other.
    I have set her free. But she is the one who is not sure if she really wants to go. It makes it very hard to do anything from where I stand. I don’t want any other life, so there’s no reason for me to move on when she can’t tell me for sure.
    She doesn’t know if she really even wants women for sure.
    I’m not convinced that she’s 100% lesbian either. I mean sure he has an attraction to women, but I don’t believe it’s never been there with me too. I mean you kind of just know when someone’s not into you.
    I do think its possible that getting together so young and not really knowing how to be with each other could have had an influence in things too.
    I now realize I at times have been hurtful towards her when I would stop talking or get grumpy with her because we weren’t having what I deemed enough sex. It was immature and stupid of me and the more I’ve thought about it the more I hate myself for my behavior.
    She agrees that if I knew what I now know and behaved how I do now, we may not be in this position. I think left her with a bad view of male sexuality.
    Don’t get me wrong I was not a dominating or chauvinistic male. I was generally very kind to her, mostly patient and cared deeply for her.
    I just could have done more to stop her feeling like a failure, or not a good enough wife. It kills me to think that I could have made her time so much better than it already was.
    I really believe what we have is not worth throwing away. Not just for me. Not just the kids. But for my wife too. I know I can take an already mostly happy life and turn it into a great one. I know she can see this too. But she says she’s really confused from our long struggle and many conversations we’ve had.
    I’m hoping that with time she can get a clearer picture of things and be as to look further into the future and decide if she can see happiness in a life with us four together, or if she see’s a happier life on her own course.
    Only time will tell, but it’s the time that’s killing me at the moment…
    Thanks.

    #51632
    Anyone
    Participant

    Benny,

    Sometimes we know deep within the reason of any person’s behavior but we are just not able to accept it/or don’t want to.

    So if you think that it was your behavior at fault; you will have to make up for it, give her even more wonderful moments and days for her to come back. May be she is waiting for this from your end.

    But if it is just a guilt for no fault; please don’t blame yourself for anything and everything.

    Put your thinking cap on and move in the right direction.

    In my experience; in tough times, it’s better to be strong, with a sound state of mind and take wise decisions. So please don’t be lost, for I understand your feelings and what you’re going through.

    We are here to support you! Do the right thing!

    Love and Light!

    #51639
    Matt
    Participant

    Benny,

    To me it seems like you are in a loop. She has asked for space, and consider that you aren’t really giving it. In your head and heart, perhaps you are still pushing what you want, how you see it, who she is, and so forth. Said differently, your energy seems to be still trying to draw her toward you, toward the life you wish you have (and you tell yourself she wants it too). Stop it! She has told you she is confused, so stop defining her! Not just to her face, but try to shake free from your internal habit of defining who she is and where her path of joy will/should take her.

    We can’t help others if we remain stuck in our own view. Said differently, our dreams, memories and desires can easily interfere with our ability to see from the other person’s side of thing, their point of view. Instead, we assume we know them, define their feelings for them, and we become mutually confused.

    From a different angle, consider that your message reads like “I don’t want to give her space!” pretty much the whole way through. Benny, I know it hurts to see someone you’ve had great times with step away, and your desires are understandable, normal. Consider for a moment: “wrap her in my arms” on your side may feel warm, romantic. On hers, smothering, controlling. You even say you know what she really wants! This “I know her better than she knows herself” stuff is pretty manipulative (unintentionally, you clearly have a good heart).

    If we were to approach this from a more clearly defined set of boundaries: If she said she didn’t want to have sex, but you said you knew her desires better than her and so attempted to have sex with her anyway… perhaps your heart in recoil can see more clearly what “giving space” means. Sure, perhaps you wouldn’t say “yes, you really do want sex with me, stop saying no”. But romantically, you are saying “deep down you really do want to be with me, how do I get you to stop saying no?” Its the same invasivness, just in a different aspect. Give her space, Benny, yes it will be painful. Stop being so afraid of the emotional pain, perhaps afraid enough that you are in denial, and walk through the heartbreak and grief. Otherwise, you won’t start letting her go. If you love her as much as you claim, then allowing your heartbreak honors what you two share. Right now, it sounds more like you love your relationship with her far more than her. Which again is normal, usual, but doesn’t help her find her wings, or you, yours.

    With warmth,
    Matt

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