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  • #48238
    Ace I
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    Hi, I’m (already or only) nineteen, and I’m living with my family until I can make a decision, probably an ultimatum. I have an emotionally abusive mother, and she crossed my boundaries again a few days ago. As usual it ends with the dichotomy of my being “unique yet inadequate” saying that she loves me and forgives me because her love is so “great” while calling me unloving and unforgiving and ungrateful, and not to talk to her again because I’m reading about toxic parents and labeling her as the “evil one” and such and such. * It started with me just asking about why no one in this family takes responsibility for the toxicity, and then turns it over to me, saying that I “can’t give [responsibility, love, etc] what I don’t have”. Whenever we argue (rather, whenever I’m being abused), my father and brothers pretend not to take notice of it, and everyone pretends not to take notice of me for the next few days after. The dogs, and not my own family, are the ones who keep me company during these down times.

    I suppose I’m called unloving and unforgiving and ungrateful because that’s how I’ve been treated, regardless of what my family claims, and it passes down. I read extensively on abuse and toxicity and took a lot of questionnaires that explain the situation and they come up positive. I guess it’s also wrong to look to the family at fault to approve this. I don’t know why I even try; it’s not like I’ll be validated the next time.

    “You’re already nineteen,” my mom keeps saying, “an adult; you can’t blame us for YOUR being unloving, unforgiving, etc anymore”, which makes me feel all the more inadequate as an “adult”. Most of what I’ve read though (even here in TIny Buddha) show people expressing this pain in their late 20s at youngest, so is it a matter of me being already nineteen or only nineteen?

    For the longest time, I’ve considered low to no contact; what’s the point of making them responsible for the pain when they never will be? Leaving is the only way I can break away from this horrid cycle. I don’t ever want to become a toxic and abusive friend and partner and parent.

    Sometimes, too, I wonder why my family chooses choose “forgiveness” (read: tolerance) and denial instead of just throwing me out of the house. I don’t think it’s abandonment issues, either; they have each other and a lot of social circles. I mean, since I’m the one who keeps messing things up and behaving unacceptably in the family, then the healthy choice is to detach me, right? And since I’m 19, since I’m an adult, I should be able to get by, right?

    But I can’t leave until I can afford my own housing, and the kind that permits large pets, because one of my dogs is being severely neglected (irresponsible dog owning reflects parenting). Until then, I’m isolated in my room, because I can’t afford to be vulnerable to these people for my own health.

    *She and the rest of the family is Catholic, hence the language. In contrast, I’m agnostic, bisexual, clinically depressed, dropped out of college, and jobseeking,

    #48249
    Bernadette
    Participant

    Hi, I have been a subscriber of the newsletters for some time now but somehow I found your entry I had to sign in for this just to write you.
    I am twenty years old and in an extremely similiar situation. Except that I have that problem with my mum and my dad left when I was very young, even though I started seeing him regularly now.
    I just moved out and I am telling you it is the best decision you can make. It is really hard at first, do not get me wrong. But it is so worth it and I can PROMISE you you will find you own way and leave all that negative stuff that your mother throws your way will eventually and gradually fall off. Our parents are bitter people, there is no denying. But we need to take care of OURSELVES.
    It needs time though. You will heal and you will realize that there is no reason for you to be depressed at NINETEEN. God lord we have a whole lifetime ahead of us.

    At first it was very hard for me to take responsibility for my life. Of course it is easy to live at home, all the comfort is not be forgotten. But I am telling you this step is so important, you can not be afraid of what is coming your way. YOU WILL BE OKAY on your own and you will discover that there is so much more to life than that shitty existence at home.

    All the love you can imagine,
    Bernadette

    #48251
    jon
    Participant

    You seem to be in a very bad place. Please don’t take this the wrong way but I honestly believe based off of what you have written that your family is really just trying to help and that I love you very much. To be honest the hardest thing for parents to do is to take their child out on her own so that’s probably why they don’t do it because they love you. I understand that things are hard but please try to see things through their eyes. To explain the boys behavior most men will try to avoid conflict and I see it coming. So I don’t think that they are ignoring you or your problem. If I struck a nerve I’m sorry I’m only trying to help. Again I’m only basing this off of information that you have gien me so I may not have enough to make a judgement call. But I know what it’s like to see everyone else’s. The enemy when you’re having problems yourself. And I’! not judging I have my own problems I’m going with as well but if I can help I will. Have a great day

    #48255
    Ace I
    Participant

    Bernadette I feel for you, and I do want to have a life like that one day, but I love my dogs too much to leave them here.

    jon, the boys thing puts some perspective, but does it really excuse them? For one, my father is in this group. A grown man, watching his wife put his daughter down, and actively ignores me while enjoying his wife’s company afterwards? That, I cannot comprehend.

    #48256
    Chris
    Participant

    I’m really sorry for the pain you are in. I left home quite young (shortly after my 16th birthday) largely because of an emotionally unbearable home life. Feeling trapped in this way by family is excruciatingly painful. If it is any consolation whatsoever, I am now 36 and have reached peace with the state of things. It has been a painful passage but in my case, worth the effort. I did cut off contact in my early 20s, and the relationship resumed when I was 24, and it WAS better after gaining distance.

    I am not sure if you are looking for outside opinions so will refrain from offering any (unless you ask)! I just wanted to voice that while it is a difficult decision to make, distance from what feel like toxic familial relationships can be very helpful in the long run. When I compare my mental & emotional health now, to when I was 19, the difference is so remarkable. The key, for me, was removing focus on “what they were doing to me” and tuning in to what I could do for myself, to heal myself.

    All the best to you,
    Chris

    #48269
    jon
    Participant

    Well I think he even asking the question whether or not to forgive them is the wrong question to ask. It seems you’re focusing more on who to blame or how much blame they deserve rather than what you can do to genuinely help your self. What guys react funny and complicated situations and that certainly sounds like a complicated situation. And the reason I’m stressing this is because the faster you are able to forgive the faster you going to be able to heal yourself. I know it sounds ludicrous at this point but trust me I’ve been there. Everyone seems so evil because they have certain imperfections. And don’t think that I’m taking sides or anything I’m just saying that the healing process has to begin somewhere. Distance yourself for a while if you can but always remember that you will want to come back and you will cherish every moment with your family. Well that’s my opinion anyway. 🙂

    #48270
    Ananda
    Participant

    I think a lot of people can relate to you, myself included. For a long time I resented my parents for all of my emotional difficulties stemming from problems at home. I expected them to make it up to me somehow, and when they didn’t change, I became very bitter. I slowly learned that expecting others to change is not the answer. Your family members are human beings and they may not be able to show you love the way you need them to. They are not perfect. Try to look at things objectively. I know it may be difficult and painful for you but I think the best thing you can do right now is try not to dwell on the problems with your family. Focus on improving yourself with hobbies, exercise, whatever you enjoy. Incorporate healthy changes into your life to keep things interesting. Move out when you can afford it. These are just suggestions; they have helped me deal with my problems so they might help you too. Good luck! You are on the right track.

    #48272
    jon
    Participant

    Sorry if my text is messed up. I’m using a voice recognition and it is slightly imperfect. 🙂

    #236431
    Laura
    Participant

    Hi everyone, I really hope your situations have gotten better by now, or rather, that you are not letting your toxic families get to you.

    My story is very similar to some of yours. I was out of home as soon as I found a job abroad, at the age of 23. My mother, who has an undiagnosed mental illness, stopped talking to me, as I would no longer be her escape route anymore. She used to blame her unhappiness on me and the fact that she had to give up all the things she liked (except smoking, not even pregnant did she give up) because I was born. Herself and my dad (both are bow retired) were teachers in the town I grew up, where they still live. They were loved at work and by all the people who knew our family, yet they didn’t have any friends. They both were very different people at home with my brother and myself than they were outside our home. My dad was the kind of teacher who is funny and cool, yet at home not a day went by without slapping me at the age of 5 for accidentally spilling a glass of water, or yelling at me for getting good marks in an exam.

    I was bullied in highschool and they blamed everything on me, because I was “geeky” (I’m a doctor now) and didn’t make friends with the cool girls who smoked or drank. They wanted me to be “normal”.

    My younger brother and I were very close as kids, but in our teenage years, my parents started playing him against me. He had a lot of friends and my parents encouraged him to go out drinking until all hours by the age of 14. They kept on comparing us until the point where he was embarrassed to be known as my brother and started joining them in their yelling at me. Divide and conquer I guess was the strategy back then. The sad part is he had an alcohol problem by the age of 18. To my parents, this was great because they got to help him get out of it, which meant he was even more dependent on them.

    I lived abroad for 11 years and still hate the fact that 5 years ago, I returned close to where they live, to get married and start my own family. I work as a doctor, but my parents feel embarrassed to tell people who know them, so they tell them I work “at a hospital”. They are also embarrassed I don’t leave my children with my mom and take them to daycare instead.

    My biggest concern is that sometimes after visiting my parents and my brother – who has married a lady who is kind of like my mom and tells him even what to wear every day, I feel really bad. They have changed and are now more calm, but I still see their true nature at times and it scares me that their ways may affect how I relate to my children and other people.

    I know everyone’s situation is unique, but would you find it easy to cut all ties with your family? I try to visit as little as once per week but they try to visit my home, my kid’s school. My mother even asked my eldest child about his friends and where they lived.

    I feel scared and my husband thinks we have nothing to worry about, but I still think I need therapy and to get away from my family of origin…

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