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December 10, 2024 at 4:09 pm #440075AnonymousInactive
I met this person nearly a year ago. We have mutual interests and similar views on things that are really important to me. But the more time I spent with her, the more I get a feeling that she do not really care about me, all that she is interesting in is whether her emotional and material needs are met. She is very, very sensitive to all kind of critique, she is sensitive overall. The sensitivity that I mean is like that from a small child. I think this immature sensitivity is aimed to make other feel guilty or over caring. When we are together in a group of mutual friends everyone and everything is centered about her, her problems and her wishes. It feels very off and I am not sure how others are not seeing this / or why others are ok with that. She also is very occuping and for her is being friends – Is a yes or no thing. Which means: if we are friends than we will be constantly talking, texting, sharing all private stories. Otherwise – we are not friends. This aspect is making me feel discomfort, since I believe that not every thing can or must be shared with a friend. I often thought about stopping having frequent contact with her, since being around her is associated more often negative than positive. But as soon as we stop talking I feel very lonely and try to get in contact with her again. On the long turn, I believe that it may be better for me to rather not try to stay friends with her. I don’t know what to do.
December 10, 2024 at 6:56 pm #440084anitaParticipantDear Anonymous:It sounds like you’re in a challenging situation with this friendship. Here are a few thoughts that might help you navigate your feelings and decision:It’s important to recognize what you need from a friendship and what your boundaries are. You mentioned feeling discomfort with the constant need for interaction and sharing all private stories. It’s perfectly okay to want a balance that respects your personal space and boundaries.If you decide to continue the friendship, consider having a candid conversation with her about how you feel. Gently express your need for balance and space without making her feel criticized. For example, you could say, “I value our friendship, but I also need some time for myself to recharge.”Reflect on how the friendship affects you overall. If being around her is more often negative than positive, it might be worth considering the long-term impact on your mental and emotional health. Friendships should ideally uplift and support you.If the thought of ending the friendship abruptly is overwhelming, consider gradually reducing the frequency of contact. This way, you can create some distance without completely cutting ties, giving yourself time to assess how you feel.Focus on self-care and seek support from other friends or activities that make you feel good. Loneliness can sometimes draw us back to familiar but unhealthy patterns. Building a supportive network can help alleviate the feeling of loneliness.Ultimately, trust your instincts. If you feel that stepping back from the friendship is better for your well-being, it’s okay to prioritize yourself. True friends will respect your need for space and understand your decision.Remember, it’s essential to prioritize your well-being in any relationship. It’s okay to step back or set boundaries if it means taking care of yourself.
Warm regards,
anita
December 10, 2024 at 7:47 pm #440088HelcatParticipantHi anonymous
Hmm I’m sorry to hear that you are having some difficulties with your friend. I can see how that would be painful.
Since you don’t want to share everything with her, I would honour that feeling and not share everything with her. If she doesn’t see you as a friend because of that, so be it. It hurts when other people reject you for your beliefs but it is better to be true to yourself, as opposed to do something that you are uncomfortable with.
Perhaps you are just a person that she doesn’t get. Perhaps she is a person that you don’t get.
Part of life is dealing with the complexities of relationships with other people. But it doesn’t mean that you are any less of a deserving person. I hope you feel better soon.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
December 10, 2024 at 10:30 pm #440097Jana 🪷ParticipantHello!
Have you ever tried to ask your friend in privacy what is the issue? From what you wrote here, she seems to be a very hurt person. She craves attention, love. She might have gone through a difficult childhood, relationships, …?
What makes you miss her when you are not in touch?
☀️ 🪷
December 11, 2024 at 8:06 am #440103RileyParticipanti had tried to talk to her about this (setting private boundaries). I asked her after she told me stories that I didn’t want to her (very private Stories from her friend) “why do you tell me this? I don’t really want to know this details honestly” she was saying “I think it is ok to tell that”. Recently I had a similar conversation with her. She wrote me a message about our mutual friend and told me what he told her about me (in this conversation she told him that she doesn’t want to date him), and I felt very discomforted, since I didn’t want to talk about him in this way and since I had a feeling that the things the he told her about how he feels about me were his private info. I wrote her “sorry, but I don’t think that this details are having something to do with me”. She said, again “I felt like that was normal to tell you that”. And she is ghosting me after that.
December 11, 2024 at 8:06 am #440102RileyParticipantI asked her many times, and she told me that she has been diagnosed bipolar and had always psychological problems. As a response to that I suggested her to help her find a psychotherapist, and she appreciated it. But her contact to the therapist, which I know as a very kind person, was very unpleasant. She sent me all screenshots of their messages and said that the therapist was not sensitive enough in their wording and she felt traumatized. (From my point of view she surely overreacted). After sending me the screenshots she started to discuss and argue with me why this therapist is an a””hole. My only answer was “sorry if you felt so, but maybe you should try to speak to them personally not via email chat, but of course only if you feel comfortable”. As I know she didn’t met the therapist. And from that time on I felt very unease since I tried to help her but from her response I felt being accused of providing her with a wrong person. From there i decided to stay out from this topic, since I don’t want again to have a situation like this again. I felt very bad and used after that.
December 11, 2024 at 8:06 am #440098LenaParticipantIt sounds like you’re in a difficult situation, and it’s completely understandable to feel torn. It’s important to recognize that healthy friendships are built on mutual respect and understanding, and it seems like you’re feeling a lot of emotional strain from this relationship. Her behavior may be unintentionally draining or one-sided, and it’s okay to set boundaries around what you’re comfortable with in any relationship.
The sense of loneliness you feel when not in contact with her suggests that the connection might be more about comfort and routine rather than genuine emotional fulfillment. It’s normal to struggle with this feeling, but it might help to reflect on whether this friendship is bringing you more peace or stress.
Taking a step back doesn’t mean ending the friendship forever—it’s about reassessing what you need and how you want to be treated. It’s okay to prioritize your own well-being. If you choose to have a conversation with her, try expressing your feelings calmly and honestly. If that’s too challenging or if the relationship doesn’t improve, it might be a sign to distance yourself for the sake of your mental and emotional health. Surround yourself with people who value you just as much as you value them.
Take your time with this decision, and remember that it’s okay to put your needs first.
December 11, 2024 at 9:15 am #440141anitaParticipantDear Riley:
It reads like you’re in a really tough situation with this friendship. It’s clear that you’ve put a lot of effort into understanding and supporting her, but it’s also essential to prioritize your own well-being.
In your three posts so far, you shared that the friendship is toxic and draining. Despite your attempts to communicate your discomfort to her and set boundaries, she dismissed your concerns. Even though you feel that the friendship is toxic to you, and that distancing yourself from her would be better for your well-being, you find yourself returning to her because of loneliness.
Your friend appears to be self-focused, often centering conversations around her own problems and needs. She seems to have a binary view of friendships—either very close with constant communication, or nothing at all. Understandably, this all-or-nothing approach is overwhelming for others.
She has shared that she is diagnosed with bipolar disorder and has a history of psychological problems. Her interaction with the therapist, where she felt traumatized by the therapist’s wording and overreacted, according to you, suggests she might struggle with professional relationships as well.
Her sensitivity to criticism makes it difficult for her to accept feedback. She disregards your boundaries, sharing personal stories and details despite your discomfort. Her behavior indicates a lack of respect for your feelings and privacy.
One reason you have tolerated this so far is your loneliness. There may be other reasons, and you can share, if you would like, what of the following reasons apply to you, if any: maybe you hope that she will change and become more considerate over time. Maybe knowing about her psychological struggles and diagnosis evokes empathy in you, causing you to tolerate more than you would tolerate from other people. Maybe the time and emotional investment that you already put in the friendship makes it difficult to let go, and maybe ending the friendship could create awkwardness in social settings with mutual friends (..???)
It’s important to acknowledge, Riley, how this friendship is affecting your mental and emotional health. Feeling drained and used is a significant sign that this relationship is not be healthy for you. Consider what you truly need from a friendship: mutual respect, understanding, and a balance that allows you to feel valued and comfortable. Your instincts are telling you that distancing yourself will better for your long-term well-being. It’s okay to listen to that inner voice and prioritize your health.
If you decide that ending the friendship is the best course of action, do so with compassion. You can explain your need for space and wish her well without diving into criticisms or past grievances. Ending a friendship is not easy, but sometimes it’s necessary for your own health. You deserve relationships that uplift and support you.
You wrote: “as soon as we stop talking I feel very lonely and try to get in contact with her again“- I wonder about your relationships with other people, family, other friends..? And I wonder if you would like to elaborate on your loneliness experience?
anita
December 11, 2024 at 10:28 am #440150HelcatParticipantHi Riley
Well it’s a good first step that she tried to contact a therapist. But it is a very scary thing to do and it takes some getting used to because it involves putting yourself in a very vulnerable position.
It is easy to misunderstand a therapist’s intentions and perspective unless you ask what they mean by that.
For example, a common thing they will say is that a reaction to trauma is normal, but for someone going through that experience they can feel like it is minimising their experience. But if you ask why they say that you learn that isn’t the intention, the intention is that having an emotional reaction to trauma is a normal experience for people to go through.
It may be worth informing her that navigating this experience of getting a therapist is not a simple process. It is a process of communicating when you feel hurt and asking questions so that the therapist can help you to feel better. It builds trust and is an essential part of the experience. I hope that she gathers the courage to try again and has better luck next time.
Love and best wishes! ❤️🙏
December 21, 2024 at 12:02 pm #440909anitaParticipantHow are you, Riley?
anita
December 21, 2024 at 6:14 pm #440905AttilaParticipantDear Riley,
I am completely new on this forum. I was browsing on the side where I got interested because of the title, that immediately evoke feelings. In me, of a particular situation I am deeply ingrained.
So here I am! Haha. And I thought I’d respond, also because it seems that there is a lot in common with my friendship.
Let me talk a little about mine. We are friends for a decade, actually a little more. As soon as I started to read about what you wrote about your friend, it felt a bit scary how much similar it is what I feel when it comes to him, to my friend.
Regarding these “feelings”, as I was telling, I feel like – at least how I could relate to your story was this: my friend is unparalleled. He is incomparable. I’m not sure whether you ever felt this way about your friend. It is kind of like a romantic way of a relationship, though, it does not have to be a romance, nor it needs to contain any kind of romanticism, but in the sense of, that it should be like – the ideal friend. So, maybe even better put, it is an idealist view on this friend.
As I was mentioning, I really don’t know whether this is ever how you felt with her. But this was what I immediately saw with my friend – how much it is the perfect friend. Someone, hence – something, that – if I had lost, it is something that I would be forever robbed out of. Something out of my very core, or from my soul.
This is probably why it seems so scary to let go. As generally the very idea of letting go, because, letting go would mean the end of the world that you cultivated with this dear friend. You and her, probably have some good things in common, as you are telling about it, so it makes her dear to you – a dear friend.
My friend, as I mentioned, we were friends, we have been friends for an incredible 11 years. Wow! Hahaha. It is beyond my imagination. And we have left our country for another one, where we lived together in a house for a year or a little more, and after that, I had left. I left to another city, and now, here I am, again in another country, in London, in the UK.
But this last move of mine was just a couple of days different from exactly one year ago. And this dear friend of mine I am telling about was calling me for a few times, then he was calling me very consistently. Then he stopped. Now one would ask, why didn’t I called him – I did. I did, many times, and 9 out of 10 he didn’t respond. He didn’t have to, due to his astrological complex. And this is as much as I will go into detail, because, as he is a very dear friend – he still is – I won’t give him out – I am protective about my relationships, especially about people I find important and with whom our importance is big and dear to me.
On top of that, I feel a little guilty now. I already do feel like I am giving out a little bit of him. But I also have to be honest, firstly, with myself. And this much. I can share.
I have been waiting for him for Christmas to come over to visit me from where he lives. This would have been the first time he would have done so. I was looking forward to him, and to his visit, but this whole year, financially and in other regards was a struggle. Not without results, nevertheless, it was. And I wasn’t only busy waiting for him. But every time we talked there was this feeling as if he didn’t feel it enough that I am waiting for him, although I did. And I remember I had told him, many times. Also, he was trying to do things like I was doing, so he tried to connect. But we haven’t seen each other for 8 years. To me, so many things had happened. To him, it was only that he changed his job once now, though, of course, he had experienced other things too in his life, changes in his relationships for example. But we consistently have been sharing a lot, and had plans together.
What I discovered was that he, from time to time, started to share ideas about what we could be doing in the future. I was looking forward to that, but I didn’t say anything whether it was going to happen from my side or not, but I did show my enthusiasm about these things. Because I cared. I did. A lot, and I was looking forward to him so much, not to speak of his Christmas visit.
What happened just yesterday was that, first time after very long it was me who didn’t pick up the phone. Only for a few days – but I enjoyed a little bit of solitude instead, knowing that very soon I am going to greet this very friend of mine in person. And, on top of that, I was going through a seemingly endless struggle of finding a job, which I just did! Plus some other relationship issues, living in my current flatshare difficulties, plus a pursue of my dream – music. So I wasn’t idle.
I’m just telling you all these because, I can, while myself am doing so, see how easy it is to overlook my own side. So I could relate to, when I read about your own struggles with how one-sided your relationship with this friend was/is. It isn’t fine when your friend isn’t respecting your boundaries, but keeps echoing her own; it isn’t fine when she thinks it is fine for her to independently move away from any contact or listening to when it comes to your side, but she doesn’t that she could respect whether it would be you who would be doing it. Let me ask one question, I think it comes evident: is this really a friend? Or is it rather an idea of a friend?
It is quite scary, as I had never questioned my friendship’s evidence, but I must ask the same with mine. I am not really sure! I don’t know. It is like: I certainly don’t want to give up on him, he is so dear to me, and there is so much we have been going through. But he isn’t responding now, but every now and then just adds, it’s not because of me, but him. It has always been like that. It’s never me it’s him. It was the first time that I dared – that I even realised I had never did – to tell him, “this is mine”. This is my side – there is you, and that is OK, and then here is me. This is what you are dealing with!
It’s not ok to surrender completely to a friendship when the other party can do whatever they want, but seemingly ourselves, nearly or, maybe… Well, not only nearly… Nothing. It maybe something else, rather than a friendship.
To ask whether it is or not, is always ok, and doesn’t hurt the intimacy of the relationship. Because in such a relationship, one’s self is so easily overlooked.
This is the first time I chose to challenge my friendship. I won’t give 11 years of true friendship away in one day! But I will dare to challenge it, if it is so one sided.
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