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  • #46536
    daniella pratt
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    Hi I’m daniella from the uk …
    Over the last few days I’ve been peeking around here and finally thought I would postv.i feel a little cheeky doing so as im yet to respond to anyone else ..I just don’t have clarity of mind to do so but I will in time …

    My issue is complex one of my issues has been around since I was 11…my feelings about my looks and self ..it comes and goes all the time..I’m overweight and have no energy to do something about it and I eat for comfort.
    I don’t want to be like this I want to be the best I can be for myself .

    I have four children …I raise them alone their father walked out in 2007 he has no involvement with them his choice.
    My world ended when he left ..in the seven years we were together he cheated twice possibly more and when I was pregnant and with my best friend …
    It took me six years to realise the issue was really nearly all him I had my part to play ..
    I eventually started to date and eventually I met someone who liked me and vice versa he had almost all the qualities I liked and made it clear he thought me special and told me many lovely things…he told me I was”it” and he didn’t give up on people
    He treated me like my ex never did now he was a welcome distraction to now what I see many deep rooted issues .my struggle to let go of my ex …caused panic attacks anxiety I had pnd when he left …..all this time I wondered should I had counselling as I wont bore you with all the things he did and said but it was emotionally abusive at times.
    Also my family had drifted and friends tend to come and go maybe I’m to demanding or expect to much ..
    I would do anything for anyone and now wonder did I tell the people who were there for me thank you enough ..
    This is all scattered and not making sense If you’re still reading I’m so thankful

    Back to the latest guy last week he told me I came across as very negative and that I wasn’t happy in myself and it was overwhelming him

    I know through the last four months he had tried in many ways to help talk to me about it but through my last relationship I just couldn’t help it …
    I replied to that I know how it may seem that way but it isn’t really me ..
    We got along well and had many giggles..so I can’t of been that bad all the time ..but last time we were together I took him not maybe being able to see me quite personally and could see on his face he had enough
    I hear nothing back from him only to say his sister was there upset
    I left it a few days then text saying how was he and his sister I got three short messages saying about his sister and work ..not how he was and obviously didn’t ask about me ..I left it a few days again and simply said are we going to talk about this ?
    I got a I don’t know what to say
    So I said seems sad to give up on us when we could work it out ..
    And I had taken important steps today (gone to the doctors about counselling)
    He again has said nothing.
    I am so low …I feel I have ruined a relationship with my way’s ..im finding it hard to concentrate on anything and I need to …Im worried ill never meet anyone quite like him the lovely things he did for me ..the way he made me feel .I always went there and arranged childcare for my children ..
    Which at times wasn’t easy and now I’m worried I didn’t do enough ..I didn’t give enough
    I feel so let down by him ..he said he would tell me straight he didn’t want to be with me ….how can I be it and then less then a month I’m not .
    He accepted me as I am even being over weight ..what if no one else will
    I’m so angry with myself he was a bit of joy and kindness he spent hours drawing pictures for me and my children ….
    Now I’m left with all the issues I had minus him …
    He did have his faults he usually drank when I was there ..not a bad thing in itself but I never knew if I should take what he said seriously …he said he just lost his inhibitions but had never lied or mislead me …
    He had really opened up about to me about personal things …some of which I didn’t know how to take.
    One time he knew I was coming and when i got there he was out of it …from meeting up with friends ..I hadn’t known him long and was a bit a taken back he said I never said I was perfect .which is fine just which he warned me …if we had known each other longer then ok …
    He always said I would get annoyed with him and wpuld always question if he annoyed me …
    He even said once he didn’t think he was worthy of me .
    He always commented or passed things off by saying he was used to being on his own …
    How everyone he put faith in let him down he didn’t want to rush things with me ..ie mee the children which on a practical note would of made things easy .when he spoke about how he had met other children very quickly I took it personally as in he didn’t think enough of me …..his intentions were right though

    I just don’t want to feel lonely ..I want a healthy mind and attitude ..and I just can’t shake the feeling I ruined my only chance of happiness
    :(((

    Thank you for reading

    #46538
    Matt
    Participant

    Daniella,

    I’m sorry for the suffering you’ve been going through. I’m glad to hear you’re in therapy, that can help a lot. Sometimes we get really impatient with ourselves, and want everything to be fixed now. Because, now is painful, and we just want to feel better. You’re actually in a very fertile place, because now is the time you can throw your hands in the air and scream “what the heck is going on here, something isn’t right”. Then, slowly, patiently, over time you can begin to heal. A few thing came to heart as I read your words.

    Women that consider themselves overweight often have such a terrible time finding their beauty. We’re surrounded by images on TV and in movies of what a beautiful woman looks like, and its such crap. However, if you have a lot of fat on your body, the question isn’t “what can I do to become beautiful”, rather “what is the fat protecting me from?”. When we get stressed, sometime we eat to feel safe.

    As you move through therapy, the issues that spin around in your mind and heart can come to rest, and the weight will just slide off. Not only will your body find better comfort (such as self nurturing in more balanced ways) but your overall energy will increase, which will help your activities become more rigorous and less sitting. The key though… be patient and gentle with yourself. You’re on a good path, a beautiful path of recovery from your past. It takes time, dear sister, and in the meantime, just make little choices that help you grow into the being you want to be. Maybe grab a glass of water instead of soda, or have a spontaneous dance party with your kids. Over time, each of those little choices knit together into a boost in your self love.

    As for the guy, perhaps its a good time to step away for romance, so you can find out how to comfort and love your own body in a healthy way. This whole “what if I missed my chance” kind of thing is hogwash. With him or another, when your heart is ready to connect, someone will arrive. However, relationships usually only work long term when both people are whole and self loving.

    Finally, don’t forget to play! All these tendrils and issues have a tendency to pull us down, make us forget that there is an inner child that loves to play. Let her out! Laugh, dance, sing, joke, be dorky, silly, outrageous and goofy. Our whole life can become a garden of curiosity and magic, if only we remember how to play. Here’s a joke to help you start: What’s the difference between snow-men and snow-women?

    Snowballs!

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #46577
    daniella pratt
    Participant

    Hi matt,thanks for replying it means an awful lot to me and great joke 🙂
    Each part you said has been really helpful ..the weight is really down to lack of exercise ….and being with him ..in a way meant there was no rush to sort it whilst I didn’t like it .. ..he would tell me I was sexy and he wanted me which I believed I was able to trust him ….another thing to feel annoyed at myself over 🙁
    Your point about both people feeling whole and self loving is very true .. I guess if it happens years into a relationship you have better foundations .my childrens father is some one who really does have many hidden issues but of course I wanted to help him …he isn’t fully to blame for how I feel now but he does play a large part …yet he is the one in a relationship but I know what he is really like …

    Whilst the now ex I think he was ok and happy with him self and the space he built for himself . But I think there were things there that affected him he just dealt with it better or hid it .. I think I was a sounding box for alot of it if he realised it or not ..

    So this morning I woke and I have to start the same cycle again I’m finding that hard and I’m still stuck on feeling I have lost a really good thing someone else will have kindness …his lovely meals ,his attention ,his time,his words it was quite a while since he had a girlfriend so maybe he won’t for a while again …
    I know it’s no good thinking like this but it’s this guilt that I have lost out I can’t get over I keep reading your hog wash comment ..which helps me 🙂
    Whilst I can see it must be draining if your trying to guide someone in the end if he was the person he made himself out to be and he thought I was it …yes people have changes of mind ..but why isn’t he here fighting for me ?or even been able to talk to me properly about it his just ran away …to protect himself but then I’m back to thinking can’t of been that bad or he wouldn’t of wanted to see me so much ..

    I’ve just waffled sorry ..seems selfish but I’m hoping you kind folks will give me some clarity
    Thank you so much
    Daniella

    P.s I do know he has lost something good in me I know he saw it ..I think I was different to other girls in a good way he told me he I had morals for a start ..at my best I am a loyal faithful girl ..I don’t give up on people it’s why I’m trying not to give up on me

    #46701
    adithya
    Participant

    Hi daniella,
    i will try to explain your situation by letting u know few things which i had experienced in my life…….i am just lonely guy from india..i really help people a lot and try to expect more care/affection/love from people around me….i value myself in the way in which people value me….it’s like,my self esteem is always supported by people emotions and often i used to reach breakdown state, as i couldn’t always meet same person with same kind of value projected on me….i always expected people to behave like perfect humans/robots..

    slowly i got slipped into loneliness and i considered being lonely is much desired rather than staying with people who constantly hurts me due to my over expectations on them….i perfectly know that the problem stays with me(expecting too much from people)..but i couldn’t stop expecting,it’s basically due to neglected love from my parents during my childhood……depression finally conquered me and i felt everyday alone with everything which a person can really dream to have(i had money,computers,phones,friends,books ,no girl friends ..even with all these things ,i couldn’t feel happiness)…depression pissed me off everyday and even simple things pinched me a lot..it’s just like touching a wounded part of the body

    after entering into severe depression..i couldn’t deal anything in my life..i started feeling that, there is no value for my life and it’s better to die quickly,so that i can end the pain inside my lonely head.i couldn’t eat ,sleep or even enjoy the movies…i just became so frustrated that i decided to do anything for the people(even strangers),to get some care/affection..here in india, dating is not allowed…so no chance of meeting girl friends…even after helping people around me by all means..i couldn’t get what i had expected from them,because no one is ready to provide care/affection to the extent my depressed mind demands

    even indian self help tools like yoga & meditation couldn’t help me..as my depressed mind was not dedicated /disciplined enough to use the yoga/meditation in the right way..so i finally met psychiatrist and he provided me few antidepressants along with a schedule to meet him for updating the antideppresants dosage,i did the same for few months and became normal

    my psychiatrist had previously warned me that,i shouldn’t stop meeting him after getting temporary relief from the medicines…i seriously ignored that,because i felt that ,i had become perfectly normal..slowly i discontinued the medicines and my mind started following the past habits , finally i got pushed back into depression..

    again i met my psychiatrist as i couldn’t deal with my loneliness ,he offered medicines with high dosage and perfectly warned me that ,the medicines are temporary solution to my problem and the root cause of my loneliness has to be treated for not getting this depression cycle repeated…….i ignored his words regarding root cause treatment(Behavioral therapy)…because i felt that ,he is telling me all this to extract more money from my sickness..(in-fact that’s how depressed mind thinks.. sickness to brain decision logic)

    i took the medicines again and left them using after using few months,as usual i stopped meeting my psychiatrist(i thought that it’s not necessary)…again same depression cycle got repeated, this time my depression kept me in life and death situation..i couldn’t do anything in a complete day..and i started sleeping more than 19 hours/ day,,,(in previous depression stages only 14 hours maximum)…..this time i met a new psychiatrist..i heard him as the best regarding the treatment and with respect to medical fee

    he told me that my behavior/habits need to be changed and i have to play major role in deciding what’s important in my life..so i started investigating my problems…i finally understood with the help of my psychiatrist that,my past is worrying me too much as i was constantly thinking about people/things which left me..so i decided to forget about my past and get back into present..

    i started reading many self help books.(.even in previous depression episodes i did that )..but this time,i took it as challenge to change my habits..but all the books i read,had failed to provide proper path for internal change inside me…

    finally i read this book which changed my life “The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment: Eckhart Tolle “(.u can get it from amazon)… Eckhart Tolle(Book Author) is also same kind of person, who faced depression/lonelines in his life and finally wrote the book from his past beautiful experiences.After reading the techniques which are mentioned in the book..i finally solved my loneliness by implementing all the methods in my life..

    what i like to suggest you is …your are in little depression,due to the loneliness around u..the depression makes u feel /react in a strange way to simple things…even what people care about as nothing , will perfectly appear everything to u(that is the trick done my depressed mind)…i cured my depression by socializing myself with lot of friends in facebook,local parks,old age homes,orphanages…to break my depression habits,i made my mind completely busy with lot amount of work ..that’s how mind loses it’s strength in thinking about depressed feelings..finally after making myself busy with job/hobbies/community work ,along with practical tips from book written by Eckhart Tolle..i pulled myself out of the hands of scary lonely monster…

    just try to do everything which makes u happy,it can be your hobbies/travel to new places/meet new people in the society every day and please buy the book written by Eckhart Tolle…after keeping ur mind completely busy for just 6 months..u will finally laugh at all the things which u had.cried/worried about…trust me that’s what i do now,,(when ever i get some memories related to my past)

    if i can do it,,u can also deal with your depression… all the best..if u need any suggestions just mail me javaqueryy@gmail.com ..i will do my best to help u as a friend..

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    #48137
    Chelsea
    Participant

    Hello Daniella,

    Your story reflects mine in many ways. I too have always been a plus size woman and felt the toll of societal pressure to conform to the unattainable standard of beauty that the media makes people believe is the norm. My insecurities surrounding my body have led to many relationships with men where I was not treated with respect. I was recently in an abusive relationship as well, and have been doing a lot of soul searching lately, so I felt like I could give you some insight into what has helped me heal and regain control. Sorry it’s such a long response, but I really think what I have to say will help you.

    First of all, if you have not heard of Tumblr, I highly recommend signing up for the site and following a bunch of body positivity/ fat positive blogs. You can start by following me at http://www.tumblr.com/blog/abigleggedwomanaintgotnosoul It really does wonders for your self esteem. After a life time of dieting (I’m only 23, but I’ve been aware of my larger size since age 7, so that’s plenty long), I have come to learn that the number on a scale means nothing. It is important to eat well and get exercise, absolutely. But what you look like is not a reflection of your health. Only you know what you put into your own body. Fat is not a bad word, despite what the media will have us believe. Fat is simply fat. And guess what, fat stores estrogen, so it’s more womanly to have fat! Historically, women were much larger. Ever noticed how large women are in old Greek paintings? Obsessions with body image and thinness are a new trend and a damaging one. People come in all shapes and sizes and looks and they are all worthwhile, thin, muscular, fat, flabby, boney, whatever. You wondered in your post if no one else will ever accept you at your weight and I am here to tell you I am absolutely certain that there will be many who accept you and who want to have a relationship with you. But you first have to accept yourself and want to have a relationship with yourself. Your weight does not define you. I am 270 pounds and I have been with many men and had many men express interest in me. You are beautiful and you have value and you are worthwhile. It sounds weird, but try and say that to yourself out loud every day.

    Second, you said that you eat out of comfort and that you want to be the best you can for yourself but don’t have the energy. This is going to go against everything you’ve heard but, you should know that there is no shame in eating out of comfort. That is the whole point of food. Food has historically and culturally been a means for people and communities to connect with one another. Food rewards your body with nutrients and vitamins it needs to stay alive. Food is all about comfort! I recommend surfing the internet, looking up healthy eating habits and learning about food. But keep in mind something very important: part of having healthy eating habits is allowing yourself to eat “naughty” foods like sweets or something without feeling guilty about it. Go ahead, make yourself some chocolate chip cookies and eat them and don’t tell yourself you are doing anything wrong, because you aren’t. There is nothing wrong with eating. Strive to buy and eat more vegetables and whole, natural foods, but don’t feel bad if you just want to have some potato chips every once in a while. It’s about balance. Another important point to make is that diets don’t work. Ever found yourself on and off trying to diet to lose weight, and it didn’t stick? That’s because you were depriving yourself. And because weight loss diets are about shame. You can never be healthy and treat your body right if you are doing it out of shame. You need to love your body exactly as it is RIGHT NOW and then, and only then, will you start to understand what it truly means to take care of your body. You do not have flaws. Anything you consider a flaw is really a strength waiting to break free. For example, I have always been ashamed of my legs, they are huge and my mother made me feel embarrassed about them growing up. But now, I own them. They are unique and strong and sexy and no one gets to tell me otherwise. I don’t try to hide my size anymore, I am my size and anyone who has a problem with that is just insecure about themself. Look at yourself naked in front of a mirror, bear yourself to your own eyes and force yourself to take in who you truly are. If its hard, that’s fine, if you feel upset by how you look, that’s fine. Allow yourself to feel those feelings at first, because if you try to repress your negative feelings, you can never let them go. But once you’ve allowed all your negative self thoughts to wash over you and allowed yourself to feel pain, cried a bit, then you can start to make some changes. Start holding your head up high, start hugging people, start telling people they are beautiful and that you love them for who they are. And start saying that to yourself.

    Last, talk about your experiences, share your pain. Our voices are our most powerful tool and are the pathway by which we can heal. Talk to everyone who will listen. It may be difficult and awkward and maybe you won’t be able to articulate your feelings perfectly at first, but it will get easier. Understand that in order to heal and in order to regain control of yourself, you have to embrace the healing process, which is not easy. But if you appreciate the beauty in that, and appreciate your own strength, slowly, you will begin to feel more comfortable with who you are. And you ARE strong, you are still here, do not undermine your own strength!

    You mentioned that you feel like you ruined your own happiness. I can understand that feeling and the pain that that brings. But try and look at it another way. Look at your past as a learning experience. Everyone goes through difficult things and has regrets and EVERYONE makes mistakes. There is no shame in making mistakes. All you have to do is realize that your mistakes are an opportunity to grow and reflect upon yourself.

    I am way more confident than I used to be, and have learned to practice self love and not to think negatively about myself. But I have been through many difficult things in my short life, and it’s not always easy. I have my rough days. But that’s okay. Some days will be harder than others. Some days you just need to cry. Know that this is okay. Don’t beat yourself up for not being a happy person, you’ve been through so much! But now is the time to realize that you have the power to move forward. Know that the process of regaining control and finding happiness is going to take TIME, and requires patience. You will get there in time.

    All my love. Remember, love yourself.

    #48138
    Lyla McLean
    Participant

    Hi Danielle, Have you asked your man to come and have a quiet talk? Texting someone doesn’t convey emotion. Surely a face-to-face talk would be best? That way you hear the tone of voice, see the facial expression and the body language.

    Have you let him know that you are now in therapy and dealing with your negativity? The weight doesn’t seem to be an issue for him. Maybe for now it would be a good idea to just put it aside yourself. I get the hint that he may have a problem with alcohol. Was that a concern for you?

    I hope that things work out for you in the best possible way.

    Hugs, Lyla

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