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  • #197807
    nextsteps
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    Hello Anita,

     

    Thankyou very much for getting back to me, its kind of you to reply to this and I really appreciate your wise and clear insights and advice. With the helping others it helps me in a way, to think of everyone as connected and all human beings together, that are all struggling so if I feel like I can help I would like to.

    I am still living in the same situation, with both good and bad days as described above. Coincidently I have gone home for the weekend to my parents and although they love me, I realise now why I left home at 18 as we have a very surface like relationship and I feel the odd one out.

     

    I have tried online therapy and have an appointment to start face to face therapy next week as I think just talking to someone may help. I agree with you in that there is no guarantee of success either way I go and I think that’s what scares me as I have never really trusted myself before (and this decision in my head seems huge and scary!) But I am trying to work on it and know myself better. It is slow work.

     

    I think because I always felt lonely and isolated as a child (even though I lived with a house full of people) and feel isolated often in my relationship my main worry is that it is something wrong with ME that causes that. I often look at people in the street or on social media and they just look like they belong and look so happy and FREE and self accepting and I so would like to feel like that.

    As a child I was called ‘high maintenance, ‘little black rain cloud’ and their love was linked to how well I did at school. One time I got a B ageade and was shouted at and called a failure and someone’s who’ never going to achieve anything and was sometimes hit With a belt as a young child but I never knew why. If I failed in any way e.g. got less than an A, failed music lessons I was not allowed to do my part time job with animals which I loved (and felt like my home with my friends there also) so I was always kind of anxious and stressed as there was always the chance I would fail. When I met my boyfriend I had very low self esteem (which is partly the case now). I didn’t feel worthy of love.

    Do you have any advice about how to get in touch with your feelings/intuition please? With the small stuff I feel like I can listen to my gut feeling and feelings fine but with this decision, because it seems so scary to me, I just clam up and don’t feel anything truly consistent.

     

    Thankyou very much again for writing back. 🙂

    #197809
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear nextsteps:

    My advice regarding getting in touch with your feelings is to start with the small stuff, like you mentioned. We can’t proceed to the big stuff if they look overwhelmingly big. So we start with the small, build our confidence this way. If you can give me examples of your experience and progress with the small stuff, it will help me understand better where you are at.

    Regarding what you wrote here: “I often look at people in the street or  on social media and they just look like they belong and look so happy and FREE and self accepting and I so would like to feel like that”- I too thought that way but I no longer do. When you see a person smiling on social media, in a photo, that is the person smiling during a whole… split of a second. On a short video that would be a few minutes. When you pass a person who looks happy on the street, that is a few minutes of happy.

    When people pass you by on the street, some of them think you are happy and free and self accepting, wishing they felt like (they assume) you do!

    But you know your many moments of not being unhappy. You don’t see the other people in their many moments of unhappiness.

    You have been living with your boyfriend then for about six years at this point. How is the relationship going- do you still try to be authentic with him, honest about your feelings, standing up to yourself and if so, how does he react?

    anita

    #197817
    Peter
    Participant

    ― Hermann Hesse “Home is neither here nor there. Home is within you, or home is nowhere at all.”

    “For me, trees have always been the most penetrating preachers. I revere them when they live in tribes and families, in forests and groves. And even more I revere them when they stand alone. They are like lonely persons. Not like hermits who have stolen away out of some weakness, but like great, solitary men, like Beethoven and Nietzsche. In their highest boughs the world rustles, their roots rest in infinity; but they do not lose themselves there, they struggle with all the force of their lives for one thing only: to fulfill themselves according to their own laws, to build up their own form, to represent themselves. Nothing is holier, nothing is more exemplary than a beautiful, strong tree.

    When a tree is cut down and reveals its naked death-wound to the sun, one can read its whole history in the luminous, inscribed disk of its trunk: in the rings of its years, its scars, all the struggle, all the suffering, all the sickness, all the happiness and prosperity stand truly written, the narrow years and the luxurious years, the attacks withstood, the storms endured. And every young farm boy knows that the hardest and noblest wood has the narrowest rings, that high on the mountains and in continuing danger the most indestructible, the strongest, the ideal trees grow.

    Trees are sanctuaries. Whoever knows how to speak to them, whoever knows how to listen to them, can learn the truth. They do not preach learning and precepts, they preach, undeterred by particulars, the ancient law of life.

    A tree says: A kernel is hidden in me, a spark, a thought, I am life from eternal life. The attempt and the risk that the eternal mother took with me is unique, unique the form and veins of my skin, unique the smallest play of leaves in my branches and the smallest scar on my bark. I was made to form and reveal the eternal in my smallest special detail.

    A tree says: My strength is trust. I know nothing about my fathers, I know nothing about the thousand children that every year spring out of me. I live out the secret of my seed to the very end, and I care for nothing else. I trust that God is in me. I trust that my labor is holy. Out of this trust I live.

    When we are stricken and cannot bear our lives any longer, then a tree has something to say to us: Be still! Be still! Look at me! Life is not easy, life is not difficult. Those are childish thoughts. Let God speak within you, and your thoughts will grow silent. You are anxious because your path leads away from mother and home. But every step and every day lead you back again to the mother. Home is neither here nor there. Home is within you, or home is nowhere at all.

    A longing to wander tears my heart when I hear trees rustling in the wind at evening. If one listens to them silently for a long time, this longing reveals its kernel, its meaning. It is not so much a matter of escaping from one’s suffering, though it may seem to be so. It is a longing for home, for a memory of the mother, for new metaphors for life. It leads home. Every path leads homeward, every step is birth, every step is death, every grave is mother.

    So the tree rustles in the evening, when we stand uneasy before our own childish thoughts: Trees have long thoughts, long-breathing and restful, just as they have longer lives than ours. They are wiser than we are, as long as we do not listen to them. But when we have learned how to listen to trees, then the brevity and the quickness and the childlike hastiness of our thoughts achieve an incomparable joy. Whoever has learned how to listen to trees no longer wants to be a tree. He wants to be nothing except what he is. That is home. That is happiness.” ― Hermann Hesse

     

    #197851
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear nextsteps:

    I noticed you thanked me twice in your recent post, at the beginning and end of it, being very gracious. I neglected to acknowledge it:

    you are very welcome, nextsteps. It is my pleasure to communicate with you. I would like to continue anytime you would like, if you do.

    anita

    #198529
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Hello Anita and Peter,

     

    Thank you very much for writing back, I really appreciate it. 🙂

     

    Anita- In terms of the little things to get to know myself I really do mean the little things..  such as what I wanted to eat, what hobbies I liked doing and what I wanted to wear. For a long time I let my boyfriend dictate what I wore e.g. you look fat in those jeans don’t wear them (I am a size 8 uk) or what shoes I wore e.g. ‘I don’t like flat shoes or buttons on clothes where something else’ . I also did hobbies that I didn’t like but didnt really think why I did them e.g. music lessons to please my dad, running to fit in with my boyfriends family. I am also lucky enough to have a horse and I have realised recently it’s not the horse per sea I was aiming for it was he feeling of belonging and friendship e.g the not aloneness I had growing up working at a horse yard saving up for a horse. That was quite a big thing for me as since the age of 11 I told myself I wanted a horse, but again didn’t really think why. My hobbies are now things I DO actually like.. Pilates, walking, writing, reading. I have also started speech therapy as I have a stammer and I have tried to avoid it for so long but now am trying to address it which is triggering and emotional.

    I still have a long way to go with this.

    My boyfriend and I are getting on better and in some ways things are great. I just have a sense of restlessness and unease at times. Like I should be somewhere else. I have had that feeling all my life though (except at the sstables) so it’s perhaps more to do with me than him. Sometimes it feels like I am subconsciously creating the relationship that I wanted with my family through him in the way we interact e.g. he sees me as a little girl not a woman I feel.

    Peter- I really appreciate your tree quote. I find nature so reassuring and comforting. It also gives me hope that things DO change like the seasons change, even when by looking it doesn’t always seem that way day to day. I often go walking to a little wood not far from my home when i feel low and it doees help. Do you have any advice about how I could accept and even celebrate the aloneness I feel please?

     

    Thank you very much for your help so far. 🙂

    #198531
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Anita- just addressing your question about how does he react when I am honest. Mainly he listens, but if he feels he is ‘right’ then no listening occurs. He will say things to put me down e.g. about attractive people where he works, about my weight, my lack of ambition in his eyes, how much money I spend. In some ways it feels like I am living with a disapproving parent still. A fairly common thing is I will make a tea and pudding (he doesn’t really cook) and he will say something like well it’s edible or it’s okay but you should of done x, y and z. Nothing is ever good. It always need improvement and so sometimes when I have tried my best on something I don’t want to share it with him as he either criticises me or doesn’t say anything much. He is on my side, but he doesn’t often express his feelings.

    #198541
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear nextsteps:

    In your original post, April last year, almost a year ago, you wrote about your boyfriend: “he is lovely, kind and supportive…I KNOW my boyfriend is a lovely person and the life/home we have here is lovely, I just don’t FEEL it.”

    Today you wrote about your boyfriend that he told you things like: “you look fat in those jeans don’t wear them… I don’t like flat shoes or buttons on clothes wear something else”, and “if he feels he is ‘right’ then no listening occurs. He will say things to put me down e.g. about attractive people where he works, about my weight, my lack of ambition in his eyes… it feels like I am living with a disapproving parent still. …Nothing is ever good. It always need improvement… he either criticizes me or doesn’t say anything much. He is on my side”

    My input: he is on your side compared to a man who would criticize you and scream and yell at you, perhaps, on your side compared to someone worse? And he is “lovely, kind and supportive” from time to time, correct?

    I wish your boyfriend was indeed lovely, kind and supportive and that your life with him was indeed lovely, as you presented it to be in April last year. I wish it was and you wish it too.

    But reality doesn’t care for wishes. And so, you feel that you are “living with a disapproving parent still” because you are. Living with a disapproving man, that is. Like you wrote: “he sees me as a little girl”, inferior to him, one that needs correcting.

    You want to feel at home someplace, like you did in those stables, and in that friendship. Unfortunately it is impossible when living “with a disapproving parent still”.

    With a disapproving parent one is stuck trying to be safe, safe from criticism. Living in an ongoing danger of being criticized, being disapproved of, being treated as less-than, does not permit a person to … really live, to expand, to learn and heal.

    I hope that one day you will find a home, a place where you will be treated as worthy, as an equal, accepted and encouraged to be more of your lovely self: the loveliness you seek, is it not in having another person see it in you, and encourage you to show more of it?

    anita

    #198847
    nextsteps
    Participant

    Thankyou for your insight Anita. I read it yesterday and it brought up such feelings that i didn’t dare read it again that day in case it all seemed to real, although the words went round in my head.

    I agree with what you said. He is lovely at times but also mean at times but I do think he is a good genuine person. It’s like i dont always see the bad side or just explain it away. It’s like what you said on the other posts about looking at and accepting reality and i feel like i find that very tough.

     

    Thank you again for your insights. Really useful to have an independent and neutral perspective.

    #198853
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear nextsteps:

    You are welcome. We often need so much certain things to be true that we close our eyes to what doesn’t fit what we need and look  only at what appears to support what we need. Long term, we suffer unless we see reality as it is, all of it, “the good, the bad and the ugly”.

    anita

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