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Why do people disapprove of me being codependent?

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    Henry Alec McLeod
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    I am codependent and am aware of it. I do this because I feel like if I don’t then I’m a villain and a disgrace to Buddha. I give other people everything, my time, my possessions and my happiness. I cannot imagine of saying no to someone and I compliment them so much they think it’s annoying. For example; I bought bouquet of roses for someone on Valentine’s Day and the person I was giving to didn’t want it. I told them they could have it even if they didn’t like me and they still refused. Then I told her that her needs, wants, and happiness are more important than me and she blocked me on Facebook. I felt like I had to give it to someone, I was asking my friends and family members and they didn’t want it. Then I was asking random people on the street even other guys and they made fun of me and called me gay. Then I let them harm me.
    Don’t think this is only on Valentine’s Day. I have a restaurant job with only one hour a day for less than 5 hours. As a people pleaser, I am afraid of asking for more because I would take it away from someone else. My family says I need another job, but if I do that then I am harming my current boss’s feelings. I let other people take my hours even when I need the money. My parents argue with me about it everyday.

    I have a million more examples of this. My grandmother who I live with has arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia and diabetes. I care about her deeply and I actually went to a mental hospital because I was completely denying my own needs for her. I was starving myself and giving her my food and keeping myself awake every night just to make sure she was alright. I was telling her all he time that her values were more than mine to make her feel better. I even became a footrest one time because her feet was hurting so much.

    Whenever I have free time, which is whenever my grandma is asleep and I am awake in 3:00 in the morning, I am on yahoo answers posting things like this. People say harmful things to me like “You’re such a winney little b**ch, kill yourself.” This makes me hate myself that much more. I have actually attempted suicide because people had told me to in order to make them happy.

    People constantly tell me I need to love myself first, but then I watch the news and what are people like Trump doing? Loving himself. And what are criminals on television shows doing? Loving themselves. Before you call me stupid (which I am), that is how I think. Buddha also said one has to give up pleasure, which I have been doing so for years. I will probably do it for every day for the rest of my life.

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    #140621

    Billy
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    Hi Henry,   I have a problem with codependency also. Whenever I am in a relationship I bein to neglect my own needs and look after the other person to much. At the same time I become completely dependant on them. It becomes like a trade. I will look after your every need if you support me. It’s very unhealthy and my relationships fall apart because of it.  I don’t feel like I have any control over it. It just happens because that’s how I have been conditioned by unhealthy parents.  However, as much as our conditioning dictates a lot of what we do it is entirely possible to change these patterns of behaviour. The first thing to realise is that these behaviours and thoughts are not you.

    They are like bad habits and can be changed.  I’m not sure about you but I know from my own experience growing up that I received messages from all around that I was not good enough how I was. In fact I was treated appallingly by other kids, teachers and parents.  At that age i didnt know any better. I just thought that there must be something wrong with me otherwise why would put people be nicer to me.  I took this on and internalised it and it became a bit part of my personality.  A feeling of lack, inadequacy, inferiority.

    My mother definitely has a lot of  narcissistic personality disorder traits and as a child it seemed like the only love and praise I ever recieved was when I was doing something to please her such as cleaning the house.  She had affairs and trained me to take love letters to her lover because it was a way for her to communicate with him without my father knowing.  I was 11 or 12 years old.  Many many really disfunctional things like this happened in which I felt I had to just do what she wanted and make sure she was ok or I would bare the brunt of her wrath in the form of physical violence, verbal and emotional abuse and the cutting off of her love and affection.  On top of this my father was drunk a lot and very explosively violent towards me.  As a child the thought of  not receiving love from your parents feels life threatening and we do whatever we are told to make sure we stay connected in order to survive.  It’s all we know and we are unaware of just how toxic and destructive it may be which is why children of abusive parents will scream in anguish when they are taken away from their abuser.

    I am now in my late 40s and only really just becoming very clear about this and the terrible effect it has had on every aspect of my life.  I’ve known for a long time how unhealthy my background was but felt confused and angry for a long time. I also felt extremely guilty and ashamed to feel such anger towards my parents because this too was conditioned into me by them and also by our culture at large.  Our culture tells  us in no uncertain terms that we must love our family and look after them when they are old etc no matter what.  They don’t seem to have any alternative if you just so happen to be from a really bad batch and feel like these people are ruining your life.  I thought I could run away from it all and I started drugs in my teens which stretched out into my 20s and 30s but of course it’s like putting a bandaid on a festering wound and so the problems never went away.

    Meditation has helped me to become more clear about a lot of things. It can be painful to face your demons and look your past square in the eyes and accept it for what it is.   Some people say the past is the past, let it go and move on. This is true but i have always felt a deep need to understand. To understand why I am the way I am. If I don’t know this then I cannot move on.  I would just keep going around in circles and wondering what the hell was happening. I did this for a long time.

    Im telling you all this because maybe you will read my story and not feel so alone knowing that we all suffer in some way and your story is one of suffering.   You are today the sum of your past conditioning and you can begin to change that conditioning to create a better future in which you do value and look after yourself. It’s a difficult road but we can do it.

    As far as your comment about loving oneself and trump and criminals etc. No these people do not love themselves. They are extremely lost, delusional, toxic individuals and they bring a lot of suffering on others and  most likely experience a lot of suffering themselves if not now they will at some point.  You don’t even need to compare yourself to these people. Just know that they are headed down a dark road and you are not going the same direction.

    If you don’t already, begin to sit still everyday and begin to ask questions and understand how you became the way you are. Know that you are not your conditioning, your thoughts, your beliefs and that you can become aware of these things , realise how they affect your life and change them.  If you recognise just one small thing that is leading you to suffer then you can learn from that next time.

     

     

     

    #140623

    Lacienaga
    Participant

    Hi Henry,

    Boundaries are integral to who we are as beings. In addition – for the situation you posted, girls and women often have to watch out for themselves because of how vulnerable they are. You’re moving past her boundaries by telling her all of those things. It is unhealthy. You can be supportive without giving yourself up.

    You have the right to be important. By using extreme examples such as Trump or criminals, you are drastically ignoring their lack of empathy. Pair empathy with boundaries and allowing yourself to live will allow you freedom. Boundaries are freedom and all people to feel safe. You and those around you deserve to feel safe.

    By ignoring your needs and losing out on money, you are not allowing yourself to be safe.

    If you wish to give up pleasure (however you see it) then that is your right. However, there is a huge difference between wants and needs, and you need to focus on your needs.

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