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  • #213883
    Airene
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    Hello,

    I would appreciate feedback from people here about something I have been struggling with lately.  I don’t know if it’s because of my age (56) or because of where I am at this point in life, but some things have happened recently and I am worried I no longer am the caring, compassionate, giving person I thought I was.  I like my family – well, my kids…I sincerely love having them around and being with them.  My husband and I have been married almost 30 years, but have many, many issues.  The love I have for him is because he supported our family financially through some things that some dads might up and quit, but I can’t call him my best friend, and he was not an emotional support at all.  However, I also recognize that his road has not been easy either.

    I have many friends, but like to keep them at a distance, mostly because I think they cannot relate to what my life is like, and sometimes because they are ignorant a-holes.  I am not blaming them for this, but find it easier for me to keep things superficial.

    I am not close to my extended family – I have a twin sister and two brothers.  I’d like to have a closer relationship with them, but my sister has depression and is a workaholic, my one brother is an alcoholic and I cannot be a part of that.  My other brother has a chaotic home life, and his wife is toxic.

    My mom was an alcoholic – she passed 17 years ago, and my dad is distant and not engaged or seems to even care, though he does send Christmas and birthday cards.  He is also a “Christian” but when our daughter was very young and I asked him to be involved with her, his response was to ask if I considered getting an abortion.  Huh??

    After a long road with raising our family, I am feeling some freedom as far as having choices in what I do and who I do it with.  However, I will always have our daughter to take care of and manage.  She was born with special needs, but is doing remarkable (at least I think so).  She is living in an apartment with a roommate and has a full life.  The situation presents more for me to manage in some ways, and less in others.  And she seems content.

    We also have a son with complicated health problems after having a brain tumor.  He was diagnosed when he was 4.  He is doing remarkable as well (at least I think so.)  He just finished his first year of college and is determined to graduate.  He copes with not feeling good every day (we have exhausted many routes in search of relief…the methods available are risky and no guarantee).  He has no real friends, though, and I’m sad about that.  I have tried over the years on behalf of my daughter and son to develop friendships, but it’s been a struggle.  With my daughter, it is the moms who are very willing to accept invitations, but don’t reciprocate (probably because like me, they are exhausted).   I have talked openly and honestly with my son about developing friendships (without going overboard because I don’t want him to think there’s something wrong with him!), and he assures me he’s okay.

    This has probably been the most heartbreaking to deal with…finding acceptance where people are quick to say “thanks, but no thanks.” And it’s usually the parents, not the kids.   People who don’t have kids with special needs want to believe that “God doesn’t give you more than you can handle” and that I was somehow “made” to handle this.  Well, I handled it – not always well, but I did do my very best –  but it doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated, mad and feel chronic heartache.  And parents who do have kids with special needs are no better –  they are quick to judge.  I used to be able to ignore the judgment, but lately I have been feeling angry and want to say “what the hell?  If you think you can do it better, here you go!”   I looked forward to being a parent, but it has been filled with a lot of adversity and heartache.

    I feel done with doing things because I “should.”  I should see my dad, who is 84.  But he is not really supportive, or maybe, he doesn’t know how to be.  On the other hand, by age 84, I’d think he’d have figured it out if it was something he wanted to do.  I “should” see my friends, but find myself depressed after hearing about their “normal” lives.  And I definitely am done with hearing the patronizing “how is your daughter doing?, gosh that’s great.”  I “should” have gone to my friend’s son’s wedding, but I don’t feel supported by this friend and don’t really even want to send a gift (but I will).  I “should” want to go out with my friend and her husband to celebrate her birthday, but I am actually dreading it.

    I saw a therapist some years ago and she described this as “complicated grief.”  I expected my life to go one way, but it turned out another way.  I think all of us can say that, right?!  We wanted our life to be one thing, and this is what we got.  Most days, I accept this, but lately, it’s been a struggle.  Maybe this is all rising to the surface because we are at the stage where kids are now adults, and this new phase brings all kinds of reminders of what I thought my life would be.  And also because my husband and I are left staring at each other and trying to figure out why we are together.

    Thanks for reading.  I don’t know if I’m looking for anything specific, but it felt good to get this out there.

    Airene

     

     

    It might just be this is a phase – with our kids growing up, the focus is on what they are doing, where they are going.  Parents are so competitive!  My son is this, my daughter is that, my kids are beautiful…blah blah blah.

     

     

    #213889
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    Good to read from you, an amazing post.

    “I am worried I no longer am the caring, compassionate, giving person I thought I was”-  I think I understand this. I am about your age and looking back I see how much I invested in relationships, or attempts at relationships with people, such that provided me with no return-on-investment. At the time I was desperate, now being not desperate, I can see more clearly, that the investment didn’t yield returns, and often enough negative returns. And so, I am way, way less motivated to make new friends, or keep superficial friendships. Why bother, is my attitude.

    Why bother, basically. I suppose from where I am at, I can see the end more clearly than the beginning. I can see what I am not going to experience in my life: there will be no happily-ever-after. All the motivation of younger times to arrive at that state is gone. Now it is just … what it is.

    I have more thoughts about your amazing, thought stimulating post. But enough for now.

    anita

    #213939
    Mark
    Participant

    Airene,

    Living a life of “shoulds” is hard.  I have been working letting go a lifetime of shoulds for decades.  This is a lifelong process of awareness and courage.  I see every decision on living my life would be best to come from love rather than from fear or a “should.”  I need to question my “shoulds” and see if it truly fits me or not.

    It sounds like you are at a crossroads of having the freedom and flexibility to do more of what you want.  Do you know what you want?

    Mark

    #214113
    Brandy
    Participant

    Hi Airene,

    This is a great post. As a parent myself, I have some thoughts on what you’ve shared about finding acceptance.

    I feel that, in general, parents’ values are not what they were when we were kids 40 years ago. For example, belonging to the right social circles for parents seems to be very, very important today. It’s almost like there are “Housewives of Beverly Hills” along with “Survivor” mentalities out there where parents have goals to not only get invited to the right parties (and have the most fun) but also to align themselves early on with powerful parents in order to influence and control what happens for their children.  The current generation of parents is the “entitled generation” where no one is going to tell them what their kids can and cannot do/have/achieve. Sometimes I think these folks got this way due to growing up within the materialism and consumerism of the 1980s where, in general, they pretty much got what they wanted when they wanted it. Anyway, today’s parents aggressively  take control of what happens for their kids. This includes encouraging their kids to befriend certain other kids who happen to come from other successful “winning” families, which maintains/raises the parents’ social status and allows them admittance into the “winning family” club. Parents who belong to this club are influential (powerful) in the community, which just might increase the probability that their kids will be successful in school, sports, Boy Scouts, drama club, and life, and also get them invited to the super happening parties!

    Unfortunately, like you say, parents of special needs kids (or of kids who aren’t good at sports or who struggle academically or who don’t fit in socially) hear a lot of the “thanks, but no thanks” from these other parents. It’s almost like because the special needs parents can’t help the other parents achieve their personal goals, the other parents are not interested in establishing a friendship with them. You say “And parents who do have kids with special needs are no better –  they are quick to judge”. I’ve noticed this too and I think it’s because since they can’t be a part of the “winning” group, they’re going to separate themselves as the “winners” within this subgroup.

    Oh and yes, and the parent bragging never stops, does it? I’ve had out-of-body experiences listening to it all.

    And I have never believed the saying “God doesn’t give you more than you can handle”. I have known a family or two over the years who has had more than they can handle.

    The only advice I have for you is to try to find the down-to-earth, real people who want to be friends with you and your kids simply because you and your kids are good honest people.

    B

    #214211
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    I re-read your post:

    “My husband and I have… many, many issues… I can’t call him my best friend, and he was not an emotional support at all… I looked forward to being a parent, but it has been filled with a lot of adversity and heartache… this new phase brings all kinds of reminders of what I thought my life would  be. And also because my husband and I are left staring at each other and trying to figure out why we are together”.

    Reasonable, sensible, wise Airene, seeing situations from different perspectives, considering all, understanding others’ struggles, taking those into consideration, leading your life according to what makes sense. Very strong logic, very strong social responsibility, to your children, to your husband, to members on this website.

    But what about Airene? Is the question that comes to my mind. What kind of life you thought you would have but do not. And is this life all that can be for you.

    It may be. But maybe there is more. Maybe there is something else…?

    anita

    #214213
    Airene
    Participant

    Anita, Mark and Brandy –

    Thank you for your responses!  I appreciate your thoughts very much.

    Anita – I am wondering if looking for a ROI (Return On Investment) is a worthwhile approach in a relationship.  Especially lately, I find myself asking “what am I getting out of this relationship.”  I don’t like that I think in those terms, but the fact is, I do.  Because if we are here to help people, we should not be judging whether they need the help, or are worthy of it, right?

    Mark – I love your thought about making decisions about your life based on love, rather than fear or “should.”  There have been many times where I struggled with resentment and anger, but ultimately did something because of the love I feel…maybe not for the person benefitting from my action, but because of love for my kids, or someone related to that person, or even for my own well-being.  It’s as if I need to find a reason I am doing something and be at peace with that reason.  This approach has worked better for me than just writing a blank check to be and do something for anyone and everyone.

    Brandy – I appreciate your thoughts so much!  I have never been a social climber…maybe this has been to the detriment of my kids, but so be it!  Your description of the groups and subgroups is spot on, especially about parents who have kids with special needs.  I recall some out of body experiences (I laughed at that one!) while witnessing parents devote an entire program to their child, including live performances of said child.  This is not something I’d sign up for, but it comes with the territory.

    Thank you again for all your thoughts.  I feel less lonely and better equipped to march on.

    Airene

    #214219
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    You are welcome. You wrote to me: “if we are here to help people, we should not be judging whether they need the help, or are worthy of it, right?”-

    I don’t understand, “here to help people”, you mean here on this website or in life otherwise?

    “judging whether they need the help, or are worthy of it”- I don’t understand this part either, how it relates to ROI?

    anita

    #214225
    Airene
    Participant

    Hi Anita –

    “if we are here to help people, we should not be judging whether they need the help, or are worthy of it, right?”-

    I mean this in terms of life….

    “judging whether they need the help, or are worthy of it”- I don’t understand this part either, how it relates to ROI?

    Ahhhh…what I’m saying is…If our purpose (or, one purpose) is to help people, and we are to do it benevolently without regard to what the other person can do for us or give us or if the person is worthy of it, then I shouldn’t be looking for a return on my investment, right?  You just do it because it is the “right” thing to do.  But this is my struggle – LOL!  I’m not feeling benevolent in many of my relationships.

    Airene

    #214229
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    You wrote: “If our purpose (or, one purpose) is to help  people, and we are to  do it benevolently… then I shouldn’t be looking for a return on my investment, right?”-

    My answer: if our purpose as humans was to help people and if we were supposed to do it benevolently then we shouldn’t be looking for a return on our investment.

    But it is not our human purpose, and when helping others, it is not natural and therefore, it is not possible to do so benevolently on an ongoing basis. We are not saints. We are humans. If you look at other animals, they don’t help other animals within their social group benevolently. They help others on the basis on win-win, a win for the individual helping and a win for the others being helped.

    I believe that we can depart from our animal nature here and there (even then we get a good-feeling, don’t we, that is some return). But not on an ongoing basis. It is not in our nature.

    anita

     

    #214323
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    I am both relieved to read your response and somewhat distressed.  The idea of win-win…that is good for everyone involved.  I also understand I can’t live and die by another person’s suffering and I wouldn’t want to…I’m no saint.  But for those times where there is no win-win, I am the one to step up.   I am a compulsive “helper/giver.”  It will take some effort to re-route that.

    As always, your response is so helpful.  Thank you!!!

    Airene

     

    #214347
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    You are welcome. It is a pleasure communicating with you, every time.

    The helper/giver item, a compulsion, you called it (“I am a compulsive ‘helper/giver'”)- it is not only a compulsion, I am thinking, but a role in life, part of who you are, who you have been for so long. There is comfort in it and considering not being that role is distressing. Am I understanding correctly?

    If I am, then there will be a vacuum of sorts if you are no longer that role, the helper/giver. If you want to communicate about this further, please do, and I will be glad to. On the other hand, if you prefer not to, it is perfectly fine with me, of course.

    anita

     

    #214487
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Anita,

    Yes, you are spot on – the helper/giver is a role in my life.  The dynamic in my family was such that taking on the role of helper/giver helped keep divisiveness among other family members low, and admittedly, helped me feel better about myself and everything going on around me knowing I was easing some of the tension.  Even with me taking on that role, there was still plenty of divisiveness to go around. I tried to be the peacekeeper.

    I have come a long way, I think, in finding some boundaries as far as helping people.  Maybe that’s why I’m feeling less helpful and less compassionate.  I can smell a manipulator a mile away, but I think a lot of people don’t see  themselves as being that way.  And when I set boundaries, I don’t offer explanations or excuses.  I simply say “No, I can’t.”  And when I do something for someone, as I mentioned before, I try to understand why I’m doing it…if it brings me happiness and peace or makes me feel good – I need to get something out of it (the return on investment 🙂 ), other than saying “this is what I should do.”  Living this way has disgruntled a lot of people who expect something different from me.  But oh well.

    Thanks so much for your thoughts Anita.

    Airene

    #214535
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    You are welcome. I like (!) your But oh well reaction any person who is disgruntled about you considering the return- or lack of return on your investment in that person.

    anita

    #226311
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Airene:

    Wondering about you, how are you?

    anita

    #226535
    Airene
    Participant

    Hello Anita!

    How nice of you to check in.  I had been reading the forum on Tiny Buddha diligently and then life happened.  Work schedule, a change in my daughter’s schedule and other interruptions have kept me from checking in here.  I’m trying to catch up on one or two pages of posts.

    How have you been Anita?

     

     

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