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July 29, 2025 at 9:19 am #447994
Claire
ParticipantI met my husband 9 years ago after a very healing 12 months of singledom. I’d that time to heal after a failed relationship and I lived my new self, feeling happy and content in ever way. Then I met a man who felt totally right. We had so much in common, he was kind and caring and protective. It felt so perfect like everything was totally right and it was meant to be. After 6 months in our new relationship he moved in with me and even that was great, he was perfect around the house, helpful and it felt like we’re a great team. Then 2 months later we went on our first holiday abroad together. We booked an excursion from our hotel and had to get up quite early, as I was getting dressed I inadvertently slammed a draw and he said “be quiet other people are sleeping” I turned to him and said “sorry I didn’t mean to” it was then that everything changed, he yelled at me telling that this was typical of me, not caring about other people, in what seemed like several minutes he hurled very personal insults at me and then went silent. Not wanting to miss the trip, we carried on to breakfast and boarded the coach in silence. After a while sitting there insolence in what was supposed to be a memorable first holiday, I began to confused, lonely and trapped, trying to rationalise the irrational outburst I’d just been smacked in the face with. It upset me and I started to cry. After a while he noticed, he turned to me and said “look at the state of you, you need to take a long look at yourself. After a few hours of him sulking and ignoring me and he eventually apologised. He promised he would never do that again. Well you guessed it, things were fine again for a while until another irrational outburst occurred. The same thing happened again, a tirade of non stop insults and an oppressive air of rage and anger hit me like a whirlwind. His insults were so intense and rapidly delivered that I could barely process what he’d said. Afterwords, he would sulk and eventually after several hours, sometimes not until the next day, he pretend that everything was fine. Never an apology. I did so want it to work, we’d created so much together already, I always wanted to believe everything would be ok. 2 years later we married but nothing changed. If already started to notice his controlling ways, if there was something he didn’t like he would take charge by yelling and scowling, there was never a calm discussion and my opinion was never heard. My acceptance of this poor behaviour set a precedent, I know I was saying it’s ok to talk to me like s&£@ and get away with, but I loved him dearly and still wanted it to work, perhaps a cliche; but when it was good it was really good. As time had gone on his outbursts have been noticed my ever single one of our friends so much so that my best friend can’t stand being near him. He had become more controlling and more distant. I can honestly say we never have a nice time whatever we do. We now have a beautiful dog who is my world and if I’m honest she one of the biggest reasons I haven’t left before. The outbursts are more frequent these days and every time they turning into abusive remarks insinuating that I drive him to this. He will not accept that he had faults and won’t even discuss what I suggest is evidence of his poor behaviour. So, last weeek another argument occurred. He works from home and I work long hours in the NHS, so he had more time to be at home doing domestic chores and walking our dog. He also had more spare time than me. So to add to the complexity there is almost a power imbalance, I feel bad about him being able to do more than me so I overcompensate by doing as much as I can at home, sometimes stopping only for lunch on weekend. I’m exhausted and stressed at work and our argument last week was the straw that broke the camels back. I bit back at him in an effort to give him some home truths. As you can imagine it didn’t work, he turned everything back to me. I’d had enough. He had knocked the wind out of my sails for the last time. I’ve fixed myself up with a friend to stay with and I can take my dog. But I’m leaving my beautiful house, my garden our lovely neighbours and this makes me so sad. Everyone I’ve spoken to in the last few days have said those things don’t matter, your sanity matters and he doesn’t deserve you. I’ve been seeing a counsellor lately to help me discover what’s wrong. She has suggested without any doubt that he is a narcissist and that his behaviour is unacceptable, it’s gaslighting and abusive. I don’t disagree with her. My problem is though, even though I know in my heart I should leave him, people stay in marriages that are much worse, am I making a mistake to leave him and my home, everything I’ve worked for to have to start all over again (I turned 50 this year). I’d appreciate any pearls of wisdom 💔
July 29, 2025 at 12:03 pm #448008anita
ParticipantDear Claire:
First, in response to your question: “Am I in a toxic relationship?” — yes, of course. That part is very clear.
Your husband’s behavior reminds me so much of my mother’s. There was her “ideal self” — and in your husband’s case: “he was kind and caring and protective… he was perfect around the house, helpful.”
And then there was her “activated self” — for your husband: “he yelled at me, saying this was typical of me — not caring about other people. For several minutes, he hurled very personal insults at me and then went silent… The same thing happened again — a tirade of nonstop insults and an oppressive air of rage and anger hit me like a whirlwind… Afterwards, he would sulk.”
This activated self is rooted in his past trauma. Someone in his early life — a parent, perhaps — didn’t truly care about him. Someone hurt him deeply. And now, from time to time, he projects that person onto you.
Does that ring true to you?
Warmly, Anita
July 29, 2025 at 3:22 pm #448014Claire
ParticipantHi Anita,
thank for kindly taking the time to write. Yes it absolutely does ring true. My husband was abandoned when his mother died at age 9 and whilst he quickly found himself with loving step parents I believe he has trauma. His adult life started when he left home at 16 to join the army and although he has fond memories of these times, he also tells me how traumatic and difficult these were too. I do believe that this bares much significance to him now and he likely many issues he has not yet dealt with. I accept this but I also cannot be the one who absorbs and carries this for him, especially given how it causes me to experience deep frustration and sadness. It has literally ground me down, every time it happens it saps the life out of me, it exhausts me. I desperately want it to work but his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever makes me feel that he is unable to change unless he accepts that his outbursts are irrational and harmful. I have made a plan to leave him but I still just don’t know if this is the right thing to do, even though I know that way he treats me is wrong.July 29, 2025 at 4:42 pm #448015anita
ParticipantClaire. I am using my phone. So my message will be short: I was amazed to read that his trauma consists of his mother dying when he was 9÷ that’s the exact age my mother was when her mother died
It is interesting how similarly they responded to the same trauma: the loss of their mother at 9.
I will write more later.
July 29, 2025 at 7:33 pm #448016anita
ParticipantHi Claire:
Again, your toxic relationship—though in a romantic context—reminds me so much of my decades-long toxic relationship with my mother.
“I also cannot be the one who absorbs and carries this for him, especially given how it causes me to experience deep frustration and sadness.”-
Too much empathy for him? So much that he takes center stage and you’re lost in the background—as in, his trauma, his pain matter so much… that you don’t?
“Every time it happens it saps the life out of me, it exhausts me.”-
Absorbing my mother’s trauma, absorbing her pain while I didn’t matter… it sapped the life out of me too. I was the most exhausted child—teenager—in the world.
“I desperately want it to work but his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever makes me feel that he is unable to change.”-
My mother was unable to change. A hint of changing meant too much pain, too much fear for her. Imagine being terrified of heights… you’re not going to consider jumping out of an airplane.
“I have made a plan to leave him but I still just don’t know if this is the right thing to do, even though I know the way he treats me is wrong.”-
I suppose this is because he matters. He’s on center stage… and where are you, in the picture?
Warmly, Anita
July 29, 2025 at 10:26 pm #448019Alessa
ParticipantHi Claire
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your husband. ❤️
Very interesting that you say he used to be in the army and his first outburst was triggered by a loud noise. A very common trigger for people who have been in the army by the way.
The army is very abusive, ontop of the trauma of war. They also train you not to care about things as much. He likely has quite severe PTSD. I’m guessing that he isn’t being treat for it? If he isn’t willing to seek treatment there is nothing you can do. You can only help someone who is trying to help themselves.
That he apologised the first time he had an outburst, tells me that he knows it’s wrong and he’s at fault. He doesn’t like feeling of being at fault or blamed and deflects it onto you. It is a shame that he has fixated inappropriately on you as the cause of his triggers, instead of understanding that his severe PTSD is the cause of both of your woes.
Like you said. You can’t be the one to carry all of this for him. In the past, the good outweighed the bad. Now, all of the bad weighs on you. The good is outweighed. You are suffering. You deserve peace, happiness and safety. ❤️
It is natural to be sad about the changes involved with separation. It is not an easy thing.
The difficulty with PTSD and the frequent arguing is that the nervous system gets dysregulated. It becomes harder and harder to control emotions. It takes a lot effort and professional support to calm this type of situation down. It can’t be just one person trying.
His PTSD will calm down if you separate. It might be the kindest thing to do for both of you if he won’t get treatment.
It is not easy to see someone you love, consumed by their poor mental health. You can’t go down with him though.
July 30, 2025 at 4:37 am #448029Tee
ParticipantDear Claire,
unfortunately this does seem like a toxic relationship. And as your counselor said, he very much sounds like a narcissist: in the beginning he behaved perfectly, till the first outburst, when he started showing his true colors. I’ve read that narcissists usually have their first outburst about 6-12 months into the relationship. Unfortunately, your husband wasn’t an exception either.
His behavior is a textbook example of narcissistic abuse: he attacks you, then sulks/gives you a silent treatment, and then a few hours later, or the next day, he behaves as if nothing happened. No apology, no anything. Till the next occasion. When you confront him about his behavior, he puts the blame on you (“insinuating that I drive him to this”, “his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever”).
When he doesn’t like something, he isn’t able to discuss it calmly and hear your opinion as well, but gets his way by scowling and yelling (if there was something he didn’t like he would take charge by yelling and scowling, there was never a calm discussion and my opinion was never heard.).
I’d had enough. He had knocked the wind out of my sails for the last time. I’ve fixed myself up with a friend to stay with and I can take my dog.
Congratulations! You did the right thing! You don’t have to endure his abuse anymore.
My problem is though, even though I know in my heart I should leave him, people stay in marriages that are much worse, am I making a mistake to leave him and my home, everything I’ve worked for to have to start all over again (I turned 50 this year).
That’s true, some people even stay in physically abusive marriages. Some do it because they don’t have any other solution, and some do it because they believe they’ve deserved it, or they’re telling themselves that things are not so bad and perhaps might even get better. It seems that your husband alternates between the episodes of being mean and abusive and then being sweet and on his best behavior: “when it was good it was really good.”
If so, this is called intermittent reinforcement, where the narcissist’s good phases give you hope that he might become this good person that he seemingly has the capacity to be. But the problem is that his abusive self always comes back. And since he doesn’t even want to admit that he has a problem, but blames his bad behavior on you – there is no way that he can miraculously become free from his bad nature and his abusive outbursts.
It seems that in recent times, his outbursts have become more frequent, and as Alessa said, the bad is now outweighing the good:
As time had gone on his outbursts have been noticed by ever single one of our friends so much so that my best friend can’t stand being near him. He had become more controlling and more distant. I can honestly say we never have a nice time whatever we do. The outbursts are more frequent these days and every time they turning into abusive remarks insinuating that I drive him to this.
So that’s your reality. He is getting worse, and he is refusing to admit that he has a problem:
I desperately want it to work but his reluctance to accept any accountability whatsoever makes me feel that he is unable to change unless he accepts that his outbursts are irrational and harmful.
If you’re still hoping that he’d change, it would be called wishful thinking, because the reality is unfortunately not pointing in that direction.
You say you’re reluctant to leave because of everything you’ve built together: “my beautiful house, my garden, our lovely neighbours”
But the thing is that if most of the time spent in that house, in that garden, is burdened with conflict and his uncontrollable outbursts (“I can honestly say we never have a nice time whatever we do”), and if you feel beaten to the ground after each of his episodes (“it causes me to experience deep frustration and sadness. It has literally ground me down, every time it happens it saps the life out of me, it exhausts me”) – then what’s the point?
You cannot enjoy the things you’ve built together if your mental health is suffering. He’s not giving you the room to enjoy the fruits of your good work. He is sapping the joy out of you. I don’t think that’s something you should compromise on.
So I’d encourage you not to change your mind now. Not to settle for a life deprived of joy and a room to breathe. You know how to live a good life. You’ve experienced it before:
I’d that time to heal after a failed relationship and I lived my new self, feeling happy and content in ever way.
You can have that again. You’re totally capable of that. 50 years young. Decades are ahead of you…
Get your beloved dog and move, into a better future. I imagine it won’t be easy, but you’ve got much more to win than what you’ve got to lose!
July 30, 2025 at 6:20 am #448032Tee
ParticipantDear Claire,
My acceptance of this poor behaviour set a precedent, I know I was saying it’s ok to talk to me like s&£@ and get away with,
I understand that in the beginning you never challenged his bad behavior, but you too would pretend as if nothing happened once he stopped sulking and returned to “normal”, right? Was there a point when you told him that you won’t tolerate his outbursts, and that he needs to do something about it (e.g. see a therapist)? That he can’t talk to you like that, and that you won’t be tolerating it anymore?
July 30, 2025 at 11:47 am #448043anita
ParticipantDear Claire:
The pattern you described—attack, withdrawal (via silent treatment), followed by a sudden return to normalcy without acknowledgment—is widely recognized as a hallmark of narcissistic abuse.
* Silent Treatment as Control- Rather than serving as a moment to cool off or reflect, silence is weaponized to punish, manipulate, or assert dominance. It’s designed to make the other person feel invisible, ashamed, or uncertain of their worth.
* Lack of Accountability- When communication resumes, it’s typically as if nothing ever happened. There’s no apology, no effort at repair. This erasure of harm destabilizes the victim’s sense of reality and emotional safety, leaving them invalidated and off balance.
* The Cycle of Abuse: Idealization → Devaluation → Discard- This behavior rarely exists in isolation—it tends to repeat in a destructive loop where emotional connection becomes a tool for control:
1. Idealization (The Honeymoon Phase)- You’re idolized, placed on a pedestal, and viewed as flawless—perhaps “the one.”, The abuser may flood you with affection, praise, gifts, and attention—often called love bombing.
The intensity feels exhilarating, deeply validating, and emotionally rich. This stage builds a sense of momentary safety and significance that makes later shifts incredibly painful.
2. Devaluation- Once emotional investment is secured, subtle changes creep in: Criticism, sarcasm, passive-aggression, and emotional withdrawal begin to surface. You may feel perpetually off-kilter, trying to regain the warmth that once was. Over time, your self-worth erodes under the weight of constant undermining and emotional ambiguity.
3. Discard- You’re emotionally or physically cast aside, often with little warning. The abuser may turn cold, distant, or frame you as the problem. Discards can range from ghosting and cheating to explosive conflict. Cruelly, many re-enter your life later, attempting to reignite the cycle—this is known as hoovering.
Throughout this cycle, intimacy and attachment are not nurtured—they’re manipulated. Validation is given, then withdrawn. You’re conditioned to chase approval, keeping you tethered. The highs and lows mimic addiction—moments of love followed by emotional devastation. The unpredictability of emotional safety becomes the mechanism of control.
For many who use those patterns (like my mother) —attacking, withdrawing, and erasing conflict.. as well as erasing me—it’s not necessarily calculated in a scheming way. Often, it’s instinctive, rooted in their own emotional coping mechanisms developed early in life. But the impact still matters, regardless of intention. It can leave deep emotional confusion and residue in those on the receiving end.
.. Run, Claire: 🏃!
Anita (and Copilot)
July 30, 2025 at 3:54 pm #448051Claire
ParticipantHi Alyssa, thanks for your reply. I do feel that some sort of PTSD is present, but I was also in the army for a long time which includes operations abroad in war zones and I don’t yell and bully those I love. Your points are valid though. Thank you
July 30, 2025 at 4:00 pm #448052Claire
ParticipantHi Anita, thank you for that lengthy reply. That’s probably the best description of narcissistic behaviour I’ve ever read, disappointing to note also that it’s a very accurate description of my husband. Whilst he has been utterly charming and peaceful the last couple of days, he has also glossed over the news that I intend to leave. Literally as if our conversation never happened. The cycle would almost definitely repeat itself soon enough. I have made my plan though and as much as it totally breaks my heart with disbelief and disappointment, I will be going through with it
July 30, 2025 at 4:34 pm #448053anita
ParticipantYou are welcome, Claire. It will take courage and resilience to leave and it will be worth it. Please post anytime: I am here to support you along the way!
🤍 Anita
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