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    Taylor2992
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    I have trouble connecting with my intuition in relationships, and the current one I’m in is no different. I feel constantly plagued with self doubt. I over-analyze every relationship and worry about whether my doubts are related to attachment issues or actual compatibility.

    The last guy I dated (“John”) and posted about here actually, I convinced myself he was avoidant or not that into me and so I stopped putting energy into the relationship. Shortly after, I started more seriously seeing my most recent boyfriend, “Cam”. We were long distance and casual at first. Over time, we met up more often and I could feel that he wanted to get more serious. I never felt the “fireworks” that I have with other relationships but I convinced myself that was a good thing – I told myself that probably means he’s not triggering my attachment issues. He started to push for becoming exclusive and alluded to moving to my city. I visited him for a week and by the end, I felt smothered and repelled by him. I would instinctively jump away at his touch. Instead of making a decision then and there, I told myself it was my fear getting in the way.

    I didn’t see him for a few months and he didn’t move, and I started to feel resentful. I didn’t want to continue something long distance with no end date (or that’s what I told myself, but maybe this was just another defense mechanism). I started to see other people, and during this time “John” made it back into my life. I think “Cam” could feel my distance and decided to kick off a plan to move to my city. “John”, as it turns out, had wanted to be with me all along but was afraid of getting hurt and felt rejected by my coldness when I pulled away last time (after I had assumed he wasn’t interested). We talked things through and I thought things were going super well. I told John it was a bad idea to move here – I didn’t explicitly mention I was seeing someone else (which I know I should have) but he said he wanted to move anyways and there was no pressure. So I told myself it would be OK to explore both and see what happens.

    Long story short, after waffling between the two for a while I ended things for good with Cam. John and I became exclusive, but it felt forced on my side and I have never felt a strong pull to him like I have in early days of other relationships. I feel constantly smothered; when I talk to him about this he is responsive and listens but does not understand. He wants more physical touch and thinks that I am just not a touchy person, but I am when I feel comfortable. With him I don’t feel comfortable, I constantly feel on edge and extremely guilty that I can’t give him more. I obsess over why I can’t appreciate him more, have more patience with him, and treat him like the gem he is. He has all the qualities I know I want (kindness, patience, emotional maturity). But when I’m with him I feel like the worst version of myself.

    I hate myself some days because I feel like my inability to trust my gut and make confident decisions is causing me to hurt people – stringing them along without feeling committed, seeing multiple people at once which (in my head) I actually don’t want to do, and being the type of person that I constantly fear coming across in the dating world.

    Does anyone have advice on how to start connecting with your true self and intuition? Has anyone had a similar situation, and were you able to break the pattern of pushing your partner away?

    #451720
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Taylor:

    Welcome back to the forums! I read our exchange back in September 2024 as well as this post.

    “Does anyone have advice on how to start connecting with your true self and intuition? Has anyone had a similar situation, and were you able to break the pattern of pushing your partner away?”-

    Yes, I was very much “constantly plagued with self doubt” (your words but could easily be mine), and very much divorced from my intuition, but more so than you, I think, because you didn’t express the extent of the pain the I felt, the severity of the plague, so to speak. Also, you read like a much mentally healthier and much more self-aware than I was. And yet.. yes, I finally connected with my true self/ intuition in the last few years to the extent that I never feel dissociated anymore (doubting my own feelings, beliefs, even preferences, feeling a stranger to myself, fragmented).

    How it happened? You wrote in your first thread that you remember very little of your childhood, or something close to it. It caught my attention because it’s true to me. I think that I remember so little because I was dissociated.. I wasn’t really there. Breaking the pattern of dissociation/ ongoing self-doubt, self-distrust took going back to my childhood and “remembering” better, seeing what happened there, how and why I was still there in adulthood, still a fragmented child.

    Please let me know, Taylor, if this speaks to you, and if it does, I will continue with this line of thought/ exploration.

    🤍 Anita

    #451721
    Taylor2992
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    This totally speaks to me. I have done therapy on and off but I don’t think I have had the breakthrough I need to have. Relationships are always teaching me more lessons. I really appreciate your kind and empathetic advice 🩷

    I feel a huge weight on me that I need to end this relationship for his sake but also feel like a failure.

    #451723
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Taylor:

    You are welcome 🩷

    We can talk more about childhoods later, but seems like the pressing issue now is John.

    “I need to end this relationship”- this sounds like intuition to me.

    “but also feel like a failure.”- listening to your intuition is not a failure.

    “‘John’, as it turns out, had wanted to be with me all along but was afraid of getting hurt and felt rejected by my coldness when I pulled away last time (after I had assumed he wasn’t interested).”- it’s the chicken or the egg thing, from what you shared in your first thread, he was uninterested first.. wasn’t he?

    #451724
    Taylor2992
    Participant

    Oh nooo, I mixed up my pseudonyms. I chose Cam in the end, the guy who was consistently and sure from the start. I wanted to take a chance with the good guy who I knew would be an amazing dad and partner. But since the beginning I have this sense of something missing in the dynamic. I don’t feel the pull towards him and I know that he feels that and it hurts him. I can’t fake chemistry but I want to train myself to appreciate him. But I also want to stop hurting him and that is the strongest feeling I have – to let him go so he can find someone who appreciates him fully.

    #451725
    anita
    Participant

    Oh.. I see.

    “I would instinctively jump away at h(Cam’s) touch.”- that’s your intuition screaming: N.O.!

    “I can’t fake chemistry but I want to train myself to appreciate him.”- seems to me that you may be okay with him as a friend while he’s free to look for a romantic partner who is not you.

    I would let him go as anyone who’s more than a friend. Do it kindly..?

    #451726
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Talor:

    I would like to add in regard to the title of this thread, “Patterns or wrong person?”- regardless of patterns, when your body ” instinctively jump(s) away at somebody’s touch- that’s something deep and reactive that’s jumping away, and you have to respect this strong body assertion, regardless of patterns and whether he’s a good person.

    For now, listen to, accept and respect the message your body clearly gave you, is my advice.. and tell him the truth (in as kind a way as you can).

    What is a Shakespearean quote: “This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.”.

    🤍 Anita

    #451727
    Taylor2992
    Participant

    You’re right and we had the conversation today. We have had a few before about this so I don’t think it was a surprise but he was very hurt and sad as I expected. I would love to keep him in my life but am respecting his space. Sometimes it helps to hear from someone impartial so I appreciate your advice – my friends all agreed that my gut was telling me something, but I guess when I really want a different outcome I tell myself to ignore it.

    I’ve been working on not being attached to the idea of finding a long-term partner. I get the biological clock anxiety being 33 and not feeling like I know myself well enough to make the right decisions and find a good partner. I know it’s OK if that doesn’t happen before I can have kids and there are a million other ways to live a meaningful life, but I always get hopeful that the next person will be the right one, just in time. I know I now just have to accept Cam wasn’t it.

    #451732
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Taylor:

    You care about his feelings because you have a good heart. So, your true self is a caring, empathetic self, isn’t it?

    Let’s talk more about everything over the next few days, shall we?

    (I’ll be back to the computer in a few hours.

    Anita

    #451746
    Alessa
    Participant

    Hi Taylor

    I’m sorry to hear that you’ve been having difficulties with chemistry. I wonder what chemistry means to you in a relationship? I feel like it can mean different things to different people. ❤️

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