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  • #57453
    Claire
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    Hello.

    Firstly, please do not judge me. I have entered onto a path, I did not forsee and I wish I did not have the connection that I do with this man. He also has 2 children.

    We were business partners for 8 months. I was seeing a female (lesbian relationship for 6yrs) – so I definitely did not see this coming. We became friends and spoke after work most evenings. This of course, developed into a closer relationship. We kissed and now have been seeing each other for 9 months.

    I decided to remove him as Director of my company and stand on my own two feet. You can’t mix business with pleasure as they say.

    He is due a large amount of money in the next 2 months £750k (as he runs sister company now to mine, I know this is all true etc). However, the pressure he is under is immense. Once the money comes in he is buying her and the children a house, buying himself somewhere and clearing over £50k of debt from other business.

    He had a breakdown in January due to not being able to handle the financial pressures he was under and his unhappiness at home. He has spoke to his fiance twice and she is aware they wont be together forever and has accepted this, although she doesnt know about us (but has had an idea).

    His brother (who doesn’t know about us) was speaking to me about his work situation and working towards this deal and he mentioned he broke down and cried last week. I was however, ignoring him because he wasnt giving me the attention I wanted – I had no idea he was crying. He did say it was the worst week of his life.

    Due to the work pressure he has not taken a penny or a salary for 12 months. He is struggling to feed his children, put petrol in the car – but is getting up and out each day to tackle everything, knowing in a few months he will be financially free. So right now, he can’t handle the pressure of his homelife, devastation and worries until he has resolved his work.

    Over the past few months it has got much harder, I feel the hurt in my chest. I want to be with him now. I want more and we have grown so close. BUT due to his current work pressures, he has been distant and not in a good place. I have tried to accept this and I should – but I spend days crying and the hurt is too much.

    I have had a lot of grief from the people who care about me, telling me I am being made a fool of. So I asked my dad and him to meet up. They did and my dad changed his opinion. He realised his pressures/stress and also really liked him. He said the situation is not ideal and I need to move my focus elsewhere until the time is right. Maybe a few months? However, I can’t be so casual with him. I expect TOO much. I want replies to his texts straight away and the love and affection.

    We met for lunch yesterday and have agreed to see each other once per week (for a full day). When we are not together we will not be talking/texting except via email for work related matters. I believe this will help:

    – Him get on with his work
    – I won’t be awaiting texts/calls
    – I can focus on seeing friends and finding myself
    – I have to learn to be less dependent on him

    But it is hard. Extremely hard. To the point where this has made me very unwell. I have tried to break away completely but I can’t, I don’t want to. Aside from the love we have – he was a best friend. I need him there. I also feel like he needs me with all the pressure.

    Can anyone offer any advice on how to get through this difficult time?

    #57455
    Inky
    Participant

    It’s not about “you” right now, it’s about “them”. It has always actually been about “them”, but crisis makes Reality obvious.

    Practical Questions:

    If he won’t be with her forever, why is she his fiancé? Will he call off the wedding?

    Why doesn’t he buy them a modest apartment instead of a house?

    There are many forms of love and many ways to love.

    The best way to love him right now is to set him up with a financial wizard and a brilliant therapist!

    #57457
    Claire
    Participant

    He believed she was the best that he could get, there are no wedding in the plans. They have been engaged many years.

    I dont know what to do to help myself!

    #57459
    Inky
    Participant

    It sounds like you are addicted to him. This is what I did for a friend I was becoming emotionally too close to. Month of the calendar, right? I wouldn’t contact him or return calls/be online for that one day. Next month? Two days. Yes, it took me two and a half years. Yes, there was boundary busting, kick back, the wailing and gnashing of teeth (his end). This usually happens when you’re 3/4 of the way there. For any addiction.

    But to this day I have my sanity back and I can relate to him in a detached way. Truly as just a friend.

    #57461
    Claire
    Participant

    We have agreed to just communicate via email so no texting/calls I was checking my phone constantly!! To the point where I was annoying myself. I can manage 24 hours with no contact and ignore him BUT…. I don’t want to play games. I just want a healthy relationship until the time is right.

    #57462
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Claire,

    You already know what you have to do.

    He is still floating in your thoughts throughout the day – you arent really present, are you? Find something else to keep your mind occupied – only then will these tendencies reduce. This man has enough to sort out in his life and only he can sort out his problems. However, you really need to stop and think:

    What kind of void is he filling up for you?

    – Moon

    #57463
    Inky
    Participant

    I know. Slowing letting go of contact is for your own sanity. You don’t even have to let him know you’re doing it. For work, can you get a secretary to handle the emails?

    And if he is engaged, it is not a healthy relationship on a personal level. When he leaves his fiancée then the time is right. It’s so easy not to take their relationship seriously ~ they’ve been engaged forever, it’s not permanent, you two are best friends. Technically he is not married, so he is still in this nebulous grey zone where, you know, he COULD leave her today and marry you in the town hall tomorrow. So that realm of possibility is out there. It is possible!

    But, he is still here, struggling, conflicted.

    While the ring is on her finger, break the addiction that is him.

    #57470
    Matt
    Participant

    Claire,

    I’m sorry for your struggles, and agree with a lot of the intent from moon and inky. Your words sound like you’re playing a victim role… such as “so much need to text” and “oh, he’s too stressed to approach right now” and so forth. You know what you want, a healthy relationship. No one will give that to you, its something you have to shape for yourself. Wait on him to poop or get off the pot? Are you crazy?

    Consider that he sounds like he has some self esteem issues. He has a fiancé and a girlfriend, and is all wishy washy about it and what he wants. He feels obligated to multiple women, feels feelings for multiple women, all mushed up and squished inside him. Is he worth that mess? The money isn’t going to solve his issues, that’s only a pressure that’s bringing out his patterns, getting them nice and contrasted. He could grow from what’s he learned, but its like a portal that will only work if he takes the step. Otherwise, the money will leak away in his ambiguity and nebulous esteem BS, and the same stresses will come back in different ways.

    Clearly, the fiancé thing really disturbs you, but why do you let it? Its in your hands, dear sister, you can tell him to get that ring back from her. Or, you can suck it up and grieve the relationship that could have been, and move on. You’re a go getter, a champion, but have forgotten how precious a jewel you and your tender heart really are. Otherwise you would have moved your hand away from his long ago until he moved his hand away from her. Or, if you’re into the polyamory thing, then you’d be looking for a way of letting go of the selfishness around wanting all his affection.

    Short of that, your fear stops you from saying what you need to say. Ya know? It reminds me of the Bob Dylan lyrics “takes a woman like you, to get through to the man in me”. Be gentle, but don’t be a pushover… your heart deserves better care than that.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #57476
    Minh
    Participant

    You are in an ugly situation. You make yourself needy and waiting for him to decide. When you play a part in breaking another relationship, you will NEVER be happy in that relationship. find people who are not attached and see what happens empower yourself and dont be someones free fun…. sorry to be harsh!

    #57477
    Minh
    Participant

    You are in an ugly situation. You make yourself needy and waiting for him to decide. When you play a part in breaking another relationship, you will NEVER be happy in that relationship. find people who are not attached and see what happens empower yourself and don’t be someones free fun…. sorry to be harsh!

    #57641
    Fuzzy
    Participant

    If Karma wants to bring you two together it will later once you both are free from entanglements. Work on your self. leave him alone. If it is meant to be then he will close the fiance chapter first then you two will meet again and know it is right. If not then you two where meant to help bring about change for the better in one or both your lives. Once this agreement had been fulfilled then you two separated. let go of the attachment. Cosmically if you are to be with him it will happen when you both are free to explore that option without hurting anyone else.

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