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January 29, 2026 at 6:27 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #454745
anitaParticipantDear Robi:
I checked, I brought up ambivalent, disorganized attachment style on Feb 25, 2024, you agreed the next day, and I think 🤔 (not sure), we didn’t talk about it again?
Definitely worth talking about, so next time you withdraw away from her emotionally, you may be prepared and see 👀 it for what it is, protecting yourself from .. well, you can tell me, if you will.
And about her mother, is it possible for you and your girlfriend to not live with her mother? I wonder if living with her is due to financial reasons or your girlfriend’s unhealthy attachment to her mother?
🤔 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantHi Bea 😊
Reads like you’re 2 hours ahead of me. Not yet 6 and just got to be totally dark, which is progress because not long ago it got dark at 4;30 pm.
I am glad you feel really proud 👏 of your growth when you notice it, and I hope you notice it every day.
Congrats for making new friends and dating “a bit” makes sense, taking it slowly 🐌 so to notice when old patterns show up and keep the clarity you achieved.
Anytime you want to share more, please do.
I couldn’t socialize tonight. I hope that I will tomorrow.
I hope that you have a pleasant evening and a good night 😴 sleep.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
You write so well.. Just a perfect 👌 reply in every way. I think that you’re talented.
Thank you for the calm 🙏 And for the information, encouragement and support. I am feeling much better about the procedure this coming Tuesday.
And I had no idea people neuteror spay (is that the word? Can’t check because I am using my phone) their cats. Just never thought about it and it didn’t occur to me.
Yes, I am making progress. One thing I noticed most recently is that I am not taking people’s behavior or misbehavior personally like I did before.
I am about to take Bogart on a tiny walk. It’s already dark here. I hope 🙏 that you and your son have a restful night 💤
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantThank you, Confused!
I suppose so, my dissociation was, unlike yours, more than emotional.
When you say “complete void”, you mean not even little emotions. You mentioned earlier feeling “a relief, kinda”, I think those were your words in regard to the psychiatrist not thinking you need meds. Was that.. kinda, litte emotion?
🤔 Anita
anitaParticipantI was in a dissociated state for decades, some times were better than others, some worse.
I don’t think 🤔 we had/ have the same experience, no two individuals do. We have similarities, to one extent on another.
“It all feels so strange”, so you are feeling something (“strange”). How does it feel in the body, this strange 🤔?
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
I am trying to remember.. I think that I was in a much worse mental state than the one you’re in (a psychiatrist would have definitely prescribed meds for me, lol).
So, best I can figure, looking back, I automatically withdrew. It didn’t take something to happen. There was no relationship, none in-person or LD, so no events within a relationship.
I remember I liked a guy at one point (I was in my very early 20s, I think, not sure), he appeared handsome to me, and suddenly, a few hours later, I couldn’t even recognize him, literally, I couldn’t. He looked like a stranger I never met, and not at all handsome.
You never experienced disorganized attachment to this extreme, did you?
🤍 Anita
January 29, 2026 at 12:21 pm in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #454728
anitaParticipantDear Robi:
“I want to build a solid foundation with my girlfriend. I’d like us to be family and live together… basically want to go be in Warsaw with my girlfriend”-
It warms my heart to be reading this 🙂
And I think it won’t be easy because of your disorganized attachment style (did we talk about it?).
In general, disorganized attachment is basically what happens when a child feels pulled in two opposite directions at the same time: the child wants comfort from a caregiver, but the caregiver also feels scary, unpredictable, or emotionally unsafe.
Disorganized attachment happens when you grow up with mixed signals from the people you depend on- sometimes they’re loving; sometimes they’re angry, distant, or unpredictable. Sometimes they comfort you; sometimes they frighten you.
So, your nervous system doesn’t learn one clear strategy. Instead, it learns confusion: you want closeness, but you also fear it. You want love, but you don’t trust it. You reach out, then pull back. You get overwhelmed easily. You don’t know what version of the other person you’ll get.
It’s not your fault — it’s your body- growing up- trying to survive a confusing emotional environment.
As an adult, this can look like craving closeness but panicking when you get it, trusting someone one moment and doubting them the next, feeling unsafe in relationships, intense emotions that flip quickly, feeling like love is both comforting and dangerous.
It’s not a character flaw. It’s a survival pattern your nervous system learned early on.
So, now that you’re in Romania, it’s easy to access love for your girlfriend; once you’re in Poland, you’re likely to feel disconnected from her again, sooner or later. The key is to understand your attachment style and to prepare, to not over-react when the expected happens, understanding it’s not an objective indication regarding your relationship with her, but instead, an indication of childhood trauma (I’m referring to the title of your thread) that still requires healing.
And, yes, indeed, living away from your parents is a good idea 🙂. I would still be a big mess if I lived with or close to my mother.
🤍Anita
January 29, 2026 at 11:35 am in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #454726
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
“You said I would probably not be the only woman struggling with him. You really think this was mostly his fear and not all my fault?”-
Yes, absolutely. I can’t imagine any woman who wouldn’t be struggling with him. As I read the additional information you provided, I am even more sure that the breakup was not your fault at all.
Let’s look at what you shared about the four men you mentioned:
* About your father: “He has a strong opinion.”, “He is awkward with affection.”, “He is afraid to be vulnerable.”
About your brother: “He is dominant.”, “He is reactive.”, “He is daring and self‑assured.”
About W: “He has a strong will.”, “He is self‑confident.”, “He gets angry.”, “He is insecure underneath but acts strong.”
About Philip (from your earlier posts): emotionally unpredictable, intense, reactive, inconsistent.
The pattern: you are drawn to men who appear strong and confident (strong exterior) but are actually emotionally closed, reactive, and difficult to connect with (fragile interior).
So, no wonder the relationships with Philip and W ended quickly: they are difficult, maybe impossible to connect with long-term.
The thing is, you’re attracted to men who look strong but are actually fragile and therefore you feel like you have to “be sweet, don’t upset them”, to “wear a mask.”, to “(not) voice my opinions.”, and to take care of them emotionally.
I think that you’re attracted to men who replicate your childhood dynamic: men who are strong‑willed, dominant, reactive and emotionally unpredictable. Why? Because they feel familiar.
Your nervous system learned: ‘Love feels like walking on eggshells.’, ‘Love feels like trying to earn approval.’, ‘Love feels like trying to calm someone down.’
W yelled at you, hung up, mocked you, blocked you, pressured you, and punished you. But you didn’t think: ‘This is unhealthy.’ Instead, you thought that YOU have done something wrong: “Maybe it’s my fault.”, “I should have comforted him.”, “I didn’t realize how hurt he was.” You didn’t see his behavior as unacceptable (which it was). You see it as something you must fix.
When you were growing up, you learned to blame yourself for other people’s emotions because it gave you a sense of control in situations where you actually had none. As a child, it felt safer to think ‘Dad is distant because of me’ or ‘My brother is angry because I did something wrong’ than to face the frightening truth that the people you depended on were unpredictable and you couldn’t change them.
By believing their reactions were your fault, you also got to believe you could fix things by being sweeter, quieter, more honest, or more perfect. That self‑blame protected your attachment to them — because if you were the problem, then you could work harder and keep the connection.
If they were the problem, you would have been powerless, and that’s too terrifying for a child. This is why, even now, you automatically take responsibility for men’s anger, insecurity, or withdrawal. Your nervous system is still using the same strategy that once kept you emotionally safer (than the alternative), ‘If I can figure out what I did wrong, I can repair it and they won’t leave.’
You’re doing it because this was the only way you learned to feel relatively secure in relationships. As an adult, you’re repeating the pattern with men who resemble the emotional dynamics of your father and brother, and your mind still reaches for the familiar belief that their feelings are your responsibility. It’s a survival strategy you haven’t had the chance to unlearn yet.
But you can unlearn it. I know because I did. Growing up I felt very responsible for my mother unhappy, intense, reactive, unpredictable feelings and tried (unsuccessfully) to be perfect. I still remember how I even said these words to myself: “From now on, I will be perfect”. When I said that, I felt calm and hopeful. Now I realize why (because it gave me a sense of control, that if I’m perfect, she will be calm and no longer reactive).
I also minimized myself psychologically (I refer to it as Self Erasure”) to the point that I wasn’t even aware of preferences (I clearly remember feeling paralyzed sort of, in an ice cream shop, not being able to choose an ice-cream flavor (and there were only 3 flavors back then 🙂).
Now I know- vanilla with hot fudge on top 🍦.
Back to you, I can see you in a healthy long-term relationship with a different kind of man: someone calm, steady, one who is able to connect long-term. I hope to talk more about all of this (and more) with you.
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
I feel better reading your response 🙏 You are very good at being a calm presence. I suppose emotional contagion happens in online communication as well. Even online, we unconsciously can match the emotional tone of the conversation.
It never occurred to me before (never having a dog before) that neutering a male dog is generally easier, quicker, and less invasive than spaying a female dog because male neutering involves removing external testicles, while female spaying requires abdominal surgery.
I hope the surgery goes well both for my boy and your girl 🐕 🐶
🙏 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Thomas:
Thank you for the advice in regard to Bogart, it’s a wise advice. Actually, it’s wise to apply it with people as well.
Elaborating on it, the scientific term for it is Emotional Contagion. It means one individual’s emotional state automatically triggers a similar state in another without conscious intention, and without verbal communication
Humans do it. Dogs do it. Even babies do it. It’s the most basic form of empathy.
There are such things as Mirror Neurons: if someone looks tense, the other person’s mirror neurons simulate that tension. If someone is relaxed, the other person mirrors that too. Dogs have a similar system, which is why they’re so attuned to human emotions.
People and dogs pick up on micro‑expressions, muscle tension, breathing rate, posture, eye movements, tone of voice and scent changes (dogs smell stress hormones, so I am reading).
🙏 🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused:
Yes, I believe that it does. As a child, with a mother like yours, I absorbed the experience that Love= Work, and an unpleasant kind of work (managing, supervising, and in my case, taking abuse).. so why would I be interested in “love” as an adult?
As a teenager and young adult, I was caught between daydreaming about romantic love and not having anything like that at all in real-life. Feeling any measure of real love for another person triggered the memories of the work and abuse I mentioned above (false love), so I lost feelings quickly and withdrew.
Coming to think about it, referring to the title of this thread, I did not “just randomly and suddenly” lost feelings. It was a protective mechanism, protecting myself from “Love”
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantI came back from the taproom, Alessa, was there with Bogart. There were other dogs 🐕 there, one was a bit aggressive toward Bogart 😔 , another (a healer) got along very well with Bogart.
I am concerned because Bogart is scheduled for a surgery this Tuesday, getting neutered. I understand it’s necessary because otherwise.. well, I don’t even want to think about it. He’s only a toddler now.
I’d have to leave him at the vet at 7:30 am for the whole afternoon and pick him up after the surgery.. Will he be okay???
I am beside myself right now. Any advice, Alessa?
😢 Anita
anitaParticipantManager, Supervisor Confused, with parents arguing intensely-
This is the trauma of young Confused: instead of resting in calm parents, parents focusing on their child-
Child Confused had to manage/ supervise.. crazy adults who are not really adults.. ?
My mother was exactly 20 years older than me but emotionally, behaviorally, just a child, and an intensely-arguing child.
I tried to be the adult but couldn’t because I was not an adult. Functionally, no one was 😔
🤍 Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
You are very welcome and thank you 🙏✨😊
Alessa the librarian- for some reason it makes me smile affectionately 🤍✨😊
You put your best into everything, Alessa. I admire that about you. 🙌 ✨
About money and anything else that makes me anxious- I avoid, postpone and I take it one day at a time, literally. I also repeat to myself every day a mantra that includes accepting situations I cannot change (radical acceptance) as well as radically accepting my emotions (no longer suppressing, no longer resisting what-is within me and without. This gives me access to energy otherwise wasted in futile resistance.
I had been distrustful of people- expecting people to be like my mother, to catch me off guard with accusations and insults and put downs 😔- much more than I am now. Progress has been made 😊
I am hoping to visit the local taproom for some socialization this afternoon. I hope you are sleeping restfully at this time 😴💤
🤍Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused:
I wish it was all much simpler to figure out. There’s a complexity. I remember when I first had therapy long ago, I think I was your age, it was my first therapy experience, I drew a huge diagram with the different aspects of my complexity at a time, a huge diagram with words and arrows.
Looking back, it was a pretty accurate diagram, it had “Self-Denial” on one part, and Self Actualization on the other end.
I wonder if something like that could be helpful to you..
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