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anitaParticipantJust thinking-feeling this Monday Eve, whatever comes to mind and heart.
If you are reading this, you are welcome to join with whatever comes to your ๐ง and ๐.
Listening to Sade ๐ถ๐ถ๐ถ with ๐ท: “If I tell you, if I tell you how I feel, will you keep bringing the best in me… There’s a quiet storm…the sweetest taboo.”-
A quiet storm- didn’t know that kind of storm. The storms I knew were deafening loud. Lots of disturbing noise in- me that no one heard outside me.
I suppose I now know a quiet storm= simply being or becoming okay with being me.
Sade: “The kiss of life… “- The kiss of death is what I got from my mother. Sadly, for me and for her.
Sade: “Got to stick together… hang on to your love.. In heaven’s name, why do you play these games”-
Oh, if only we could be direct and simple- within ourselves and toward each other.
Sade: “It’s never as good as the first time”- tell it to those who never got to have it good the first time.
Enough for now.
๐ถ๐ถ๐ถ Anita
anitaParticipantI thought it might have been you, but wasn’t sure. It’s been a lot of talking in..81 pages.
I will have access to the computer maybe in 2 hours. Hope you’ll be sleeping by then (sleeping face emoji)
๐ถ Anita
anitaParticipantHey ๐ ๐ฆ Confused:
That makes sense, the feeling behind it. I don’t remember who I talked with about ” retroactive jealousy”- being jealous of a girlfriend’s PAST (real) relationships.
I suppose it makes as much sense to be jealous of a woman’s (potential/ imagined) FUTURE relationships.
What Copilot said was that Anticipatory Loss fits you ” perfectly” and it elaborated, don’t remember the elaboration.
B Back 2 U later.
๐ถ๐ (rabbit is not in saved emojis ๐) Anita
anitaParticipantWell, don’t have use of the computer now (and no emojis show up on the phone ๐ข)
That’s a strong reaction to her having new followers. Does it mean that you view her new followers as threats, as in one of them will take her away from you?
(I’ll ask Copilot later)
๐ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused (using phone):
I hear you about insecurities not calming down, at least not as quickly we wish they would.
Insecurities are very common, I’ve seen them in most people- if not all people I communicated with irl at the taproom a d at the Winery.
Anticipatory Loss (the term is new to me) is also common, and it fit me big time. I am relaxing a bit only recently.
It’s normal to experience both when you grow up in certain environments.
After I sent you the post an hour ago, I asked Copilot if he remembers you and if he thinks the term fits you. Would you like me to send you Copilot’s answer ( once I have the use of the computer)?
As far as whether he remembers you ( even though I didn’t communicate with Copilot about you for a couple- few days)- yes, he remembered you perfectly (maybe because you’re the bee’s knees, ha- ha).
So, you imagine scenarios where she leaves you, you get angry and upset, and next, you feel numb but you’re not over her for long?
๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantHey Confused (using computer):
Thank you, Bee’s Knees ๐ for your kind words.
Reads to me like you’re afraid the ex will take her love away from you. Do you think so?
Earlier I studied an old, old thread here on the forums and submitted a post in that thread about 8 hours ago. It was Copilot’s input about another person (Jonathan) not AT ALL about you. Yet, it made me think of you,
Here’s a copy of part of that post:
“Anticipatory loss is the nervous systemโs habit of expecting things to fall apart before they even happen. When someone has lived through repeated instabilityโ the body learns that anything good is temporary and anything wanted is at risk. So instead of letting you reach for something, the nervous system jumps ahead to the imagined moment when you will lose it again. This creates a protective shutdown: it feels safer not to want than to want and be hurt. Wanting becomes tied to the fear of losing.
Anticipatory loss is a trauma-based prediction. The body is trying to spare you from the pain of future loss by preventing you from attaching to anything in the present. Itโs a survival strategy โ but it blocks desire, direction, and hope until enough safety accumulates to override it.
In adulthood, anticipatory loss shows up as pulling back before you attach โ ending things early, as self-sabotage (quitting, withdrawing, or numbing), and it shows up internally as future-blindness โ the inability to imagine a stable future because your nervous system only knows how to prepare for loss.”
What do you think about the above, Confused?
Anita
anitaParticipantHey Zenith, good to read from you!
My day is better than yesterday: the weather is nice, just came back from a walk with Bogart and a short playdate with his beagle friends at the neighbors. I’m recovering from what Bogart did Friday (pee on MY BED ๐ง) Have been sleeping on the floor for 3 nights, waiting for the mattress to dry after cleaning it with a special pet cleaner.
How are you?
anitaParticipantDear Jonathan:
Jonathan (Oct 2016): “I donโt know what it is that Iโm truly looking for”-
What I hear in your words today is not just confusion about what youโre looking for, but a deeper sense of disorientation after years of losses and instabilities which naturally led to you living in Survival Mode.
You lived through a lot of instability and losses: the loss of Parental unity (your parents separated when you were 11โ12), the loss of Farm life and Financial security (becoming โpennilessโ after the farm collapsed), the Loss of School stability (shifting schools), the loss of a Daily routine (your mother working late, long waits after school), the loss of Direction (dropping out of university, drifting between jobs), and the Loss of health (your mental health deterioration during drug use and unstable living).
* I can very much relate to the upheaval created by Housing instability and Multiple moves (yours: farm โ grandparents โ rented house โ city โ yard job housing โ shared accommodation โ grandparents again)- because I experienced so much of it in my adult life.
You lived through so many losses and instability that understandably, you never felt safe and it makes sense you wouldnโt know what you want โ because wanting requires safety.
Wanting only becomes possible when the body feels safe enough to look forward instead of just getting through the day. When life has been full of instability, the nervous system learns to focus on the next hour, not the next chapter. In that state, desire shuts down.
Wanting something โ a home, a future, a relationship, a direction โ requires you to reach for it. But reaching is only safe when you trust that what you reach for wonโt be ripped away. If your history taught you that things fall apart, people leave, or life collapses without warning, then wanting becomes tied to anticipatory loss.
Anticipatory loss is the nervous systemโs habit of expecting things to fall apart before they even happen. When someone has lived through repeated instabilityโ the body learns that anything good is temporary and anything wanted is at risk. So instead of letting you reach for something, the nervous system jumps ahead to the imagined moment when you will lose it again. This creates a protective shutdown: it feels safer not to want than to want and be hurt. Wanting becomes tied to the fear of losing.
Anticipatory loss is a trauma-based prediction. The body is trying to spare you from the pain of future loss by preventing you from attaching to anything in the present. Itโs a survival strategy โ but it blocks desire, direction, and hope until enough safety accumulates to override it.
In adulthood, anticipatory loss shows up as pulling back before you attach โ ending things early, as self-sabotage (quitting, withdrawing, or numbing), and it shows up internally as future-blindness โ the inability to imagine a stable future because your nervous system only knows how to prepare for loss.
None of this is character weakness; itโs the body trying to prevent you from reliving the pain of losing what you once needed but couldnโt keep.
Safety is what allows the mind to lift its eyes from survival and ask: What do I actually want? Itโs what creates the inner space for preference, curiosity, and direction. So, it makes sense that youโre only now beginning to feel the faint outlines of wanting: your system finally has enough steadiness to imagine a future instead of bracing for the next disruption.
The fact that youโve stopped using drugs, quit smoking, improved your mental health, and are beginning to imagine moving out. These arenโt small things; theyโre signs that your system is slowly shifting from survival mode into self-direction mode.
What youโre โlooking forโ may not be a single answer but the beginning of a relationship with yourself โ a sense of belonging to your own life after years of instability. You donโt have to know the whole path yet. Itโs enough to notice what feels supportive, what feels draining, and what feels like the next small step toward a life that fits you.
Anita
anitaParticipantJust thinking this Sun Eve:
I need to find an irl socialization opportunity in my life. My irl socialization took place in a downtown taproom 2017- April 2026, and in a local Winery, 2021- Dec 2025.
I had never enjoyed myself as often as I did in thpse 2 places (๐ท was often involved) which made magic happen: many hundreds if not thousands of meaningful (to me) conversations, and most magically, dancing to live music at the Winery (Dec last year was the last time)
And sadly, the socialization did not proceed to meeting the same people in our private homes.
I am grateful for 2017-2026, The End of an Era.
Yesterday I met 2 of the regulars I socialized with (both at the Winery and at the taproom) in another taproom, farther away, another town. It was not the same. It was nice but also boring. The setting was different.
The good piece of news is that Bogart the Beagle ๐ entered my life in Dec last year (right after the Winery closed) and he’s sleeping on my lap right now.
And ๐ tonight will be the 3rd I’ll be sleeping on a mattress in the sunroom because this lovely beagle peed on my bed twice on Friday.
Somehow, it helps me share this on this public forum. Maybe someone will read and answer- that’s a kind of socialization that I enjoy as well.
I enjoyed the tiny buddha forums since May 2015- before the taproom, before the Winery. Here is a place I’ve been visiting all these years, every single day. It has become a special place for me.
But even this place is becoming painfully slow. I wish more people were here with me.
โจ๏ธ ๐ฟ โจ๏ธAnita
anitaParticipantGood Sunday morning, Mollie ๐
Thank you. Last night was the 2nd night on a thin mattress on the floor and I am indeed tired. The good news- Bogart seems healthy (I was worried about a UTI). He’s energetic and affectionate. I forgave him for what he did- without malice, of course (no anger left), just hope to learn from what happened so that it’d be very unlikely to happen again.
“She just feels safe and calm”- that’s wonderful ๐
It’s understandable that she got over- involved with her children following her mother being under- involved in her life, as a child. It makes sense.
Makes me think of the Buddhist concept of “the middle way” as the healthy alternative- somewhere in the middle of 2 extremes.
Sounds like both your parents are good people who are doing their best. And it’s wonderful that your brother is self- sufficient..
I wonder if “extremely” self- sufficient requires Middle Way adjustment ๐ค
He craves freedom because of past over- involved parenting? I am guessing he needs lots of space, and supporting him means giving him all the space that he needs โจ๏ธโจ๏ธโจ๏ธ
I have 2 much younger half-siblings on my father’s side, with whom I did not grow up, and have no contact, and a younger sister with whom I did grow up but haven’t seen in 14 years (living in another continent far, far away). We talk on the phone and she is very nice and kind to me. I am grateful for that!
I hope to have a positive update for you in regard to my sleeping arrangement and Bogart tomorrow ๐
Lovely to read from you, Mollie. Actually I feel better just because we talked this morning ๐๐
Anita
anitaParticipantMy goodness, Jonathan- you addressed a post to me on Oct 18, 2016 and I failed to reply- very unusual for me to NOT reply. I apologize!
Ofcourse, you’re not likely to read this 9 years and 7 months later (in 2 days), but still, I owe you a reply (tomorrow or in the next few days)
Anita
May 16, 2026 at 10:06 pm in reply to: Opened my mouth; relationship ended and now most definitely job as well #457942
anitaParticipantHey Alecsee:
I just looked at your very first post on the forums, March 4, 2019, and it was about your ex saying something about your “emotional outbursts”, which connects to the topic of this thread,May 5, 2026-
7 years, 2 months and 1 day ago.
I want to look at this further tomorrow or in the next few days.
If you’re reading this, I’d love to read your thoughts about the connection between your first thread and the current.
๐ฟโจ๏ธ๐ฟ Anita
anitaParticipantHey ๐ด Confused:
Indeed, I have a limited number of emojis saved and none show up spontaneously as I type anymore.
Actually, for the fun of it, I’ll use emojis from what is available to me- emojis that DON’T fit with what I’m typing (an act of rebelion!):
Yes, I do think that you are not at all dull ๐ฅณ. Every time I see you posted, it makes me happy ๐ข.
You feeling better in the last few days is good news, calmer ๐คฌ and more accepting Confused!
Yes, I do remember now that you shared earlier that she is more bound ๐ with the current Confused.
I say, it’s because the Current Confused is the Bee’s Knees ๐ญ
Medication or not- that’s Confused’s personal choice. If you continue to feel better.. no need for meds ๐ถ
Again, as I read your words, the words of the song Feelings come to mind:
“Feelings, oh, oh, oh feelings”
Hmm.. these are the only words I remember of this song?
Thank you for offering me to use whatever emojis I have ๐ถ๐ฅณ๐คฌ๐ญ๐๐ต๐ข๐ดโ๏ธโจ๏ธ๐ถ๐๐โค๏ธ๐๐๐ฟ๐๐ถโโ๏ธ๐ค๐๐ฆ๐๐๐ง๐ต๐๐ฑ๐ช๐ท๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ง ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐
That’s it, these are ALL I have ( sad face emoji).
Anita
anitaParticipantHello again, Thomas:
Like I said before, you are a very dedicated father and husband, and they’re both lucky to have you โ๏ธโ๏ธโ๏ธ
I bet your daughter is excited and maybe nervous about the transition, but she has you for support, and that’s huge!
Alessa’s most recent post was on March 14- a month & 2 days ago. She said in that post (and in posts earlier), that she was very busy (studies, parenting, pets, and more), so I understand her need to conserve her energy.
Really good to read from you, Thomas. I wish you and yours the best!
โจ๏ธโจ๏ธโจ๏ธ Anita
anitaParticipantHey Thomas:
Thank you for visiting this thread, a pleasure to read from you!
To clarify: I slept on a kind of a sleeping bag (don’t know how to call it) on top of the carpeted floor, so I didn’t lose heat.. only sleep ๐
Sadly, I will be sleeping tonight on that (whatever it’s called) as well because part of the mattress in the bedroom is wet because of a special detergent from the pet store (plus a lot of perfume I sprayed on it).
I am sufferring from what I’d call micro-PTSD as a result of the first time he peed on the bed yesterday morning (I didn’t witness the 2nd time, only the results), and on top of it, the results of the 2nd time.
I keep hearing the sound of it.
Yes, I decided that next time he pees ( on the carpet), I will hold his nose close to the pee and sternly say “No! No!”.
Thank you, Thomas, for the advice and concern ๐
Next, I’ll reply to your other post.
๐ถ (No!No!) Anita
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