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February 21, 2025 at 1:49 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443054
Dafne
ParticipantHello Jana,
Thank you for your reply. I’m glad to read your perspective on that. I agree with you and Anita šÆ but internally it feels so hard to let go.
You can read my message above and an update from this man. His health issues make me hesitate to end it right away. I just don’t have it in me to say goodbye after reading his new messages.
You said it right, my energy goes in the wrong direction and I need another man to be happy š
I just feel horrible to do it right now…
February 21, 2025 at 1:41 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443053Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Good to hear from you again! Thank you for getting back to me on such a short notice.
Your timeline reminder was very helpful to keep me focused again and more rational. There was a little hope in me but I can see now that meeting him might backfire and lead to more disappointments. And that keeping him as a friend may not be the best idea either…
I reduced texting and told him that I can’t see him at the moment.
I did not want to end things right there as I know now that he is going through some health issues. And he mentioned having a very difficult time. I don’t want that his health gets worse because of me…
I just opened his new message and it looks like it is true and he is struggling. He did send me his new blood test results and there is some issues that obviously stressed him out. I did not expect this at all.
Him: ‘I think we worked well with the team,š I’m a bit knocked out recently, and I have some health issues, which I have to sort out next week š„¹’
Him: ‘Sorry to bother you with this, it’ll be fine, but it’s true that lately I’ve been a bit ko š ”
Anita, in a strange way I feel really sorry for him and don’t have it in me to end it like that (knowing that he is not well).
It feels like an emotional roller coaster. One part of me wants to end it but the other is feeling guilty and empathetic.
Anita, shall I wait till he gets better and for now just leave it as it is?
I really appreciate your help š and looking forward to reading your soon.
Thank you again for keeping me on the right path š
Have a good evening š¤
February 21, 2025 at 6:47 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #443032Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for your kind words of appreciation and making me feel so welcome š
I did not send you my original, short message as I wanted to add a little update.
He keeps writing about the project and I’m trying to avoid asking him too much. But he keeps pushing. He wants to convince me that it is not just a dream. He told me that if I promise not to share his business plan with anyone else, he will send it to me. I said ‘ok, if you trust me, send it to me and I won’t share the sensitive details’.
But once I said ok, he said that he will show it to me on his tablet (instead of sending) as there are some numbers and salaries included. So he wants future with me but hides information? Why did he ask me in the first place? š
He said that it is better to meet one of the people he is working with to make me believe him more.
You were right again, seems like it all goes in circles…
Now, he really wants to meet me and show me the plan. I think out of courtesy, I could meet one time and if he tries making any future plans again or romantic gestures, I could simply say that after his disappearance last week, I feel that I need some time…and that we could continue but only on a friendly note?
Is that a good idea Anita? Would you say something else instead?
To be honest, I’m trying to distance myself as much as I can but somehow he doesn’t let me. He just doesn’t give up easily…now the relief of unblocking me turns into a frustration…
I don’t know how to establish the emotional distance anymore…
What would you suggest Anita?
I hope you are well & could find some time to rest more.
Have a good weekend!
Warm hugs and talk to you soon š«š¤February 19, 2025 at 5:00 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442965Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
I’m happy to read your message and thank you again for your encouragement š¤
I’m locking all the beautiful advice & your kind
words in my heart.Have a lovely day & I’m hoping to come back one day with some great news š
Take care! xxxx
February 18, 2025 at 2:46 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442958Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for both of your messages. You adressed everything in such a compassionate and loving way that it really touched me so deep ā¤ļø
I really don’t know where I would be if not you taking care of me. It felt like you were holding my hand while I was going through the storm of emotions. So my thank you is just a very little I can do for you now š¤
I still need to navigate the life at home so that another bad brake down doesn’t lead me to the dark path again…
I know now that you’re here so it should be different this time…
I’ll also try to apply all the advice you gave me regarding the self care and boundaries. I really struggle to do that at the moment. But now I know that someone in this world cares about me and that I can give this life another chance š
And I’ll keep my eyes open regarding the spider š· probably once he realises that nothing is the same anymore and that he can’t treat me like that again…he’ll give up & try to catch another fly šŖ°
Thank you for being with me on this journey Anita
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And I hope that we both find inner peace and happiness despite missing out on being loved and appreciated in the past āØļøBig big hug š¤ to you and once again thank you for all you’ve done for me! ā¤ļø
Have a good evening and take a good care of yourself!
February 18, 2025 at 7:24 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442938Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your understanding. Yes, I wish that I can spot the spider very quickly and avoid their web as soon as possible without any emotional damage. I’m glad you are here to guide me with that š
I can see that he keeps writing messages to me now and is contemplating to meet me very soon. All the smiley emoticons are back too…
Internally, like you said Anita, it is not easy for me to move on from him right now. But I really hope that one day I will be able to escape from that emotional prison and feel free and happy with a decent, honest and humble human.
Thank you Anita for your constant presence. I enjoy talking to you and I wish that this suffering will stop soon. And that one day I can come back with good news and something positive to say š
Have a lovely morning & talk to you soon š
February 17, 2025 at 2:21 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442921Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for saying that again and believing in me š I’m an old soul, maybe too old school for this modern world. Maybe the values we hold are invisible or not appreciated anymore by many men or people in general.
Maybe that was another reason why this man got my attention. He seemed to want the same life as me, presenting similar values. But now you’re helping me to see that it all might be just a spider web š·šø
For me you are a beautiful soul too with lots of love, understanding and compassion.
Enjoy your evening Anita
Talk to you tomorrow šFebruary 17, 2025 at 12:34 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442916Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
You’re right Anita. What feels good isn’t always what’s best for us. It felt good to receive the message as I did not want to stop all the contact without having a closure. I always want to make the things right on my part (not just with him but with all my interractions with people). And especially with people I care about.
When I said that I wanted my answers, I meant that I wanted to know why he got so upset that day and if I really caused him some distress, I did not want to end it on that negative note.
He unblocked me on the other media today and said that he felt a lot of pain last week and prays for the peace and joy again. Can you believe that Anita?
Him: “Hi Dafne, yes with time and meditation peace comes back, with confidence too šš š«”
Him: “I wrote to you on WhatsApp, I hope peace returns, but I was in too much pain last week, š
Me: “Hi, we all were in pain last week…my mother as well š« I pray for harmony & joy in our hearts š”
Him: “I am aware that we have all had pain, I felt like I was a liar or a dreamer which is not the case, I hope that we find peace and trust between us, I would like to introduce you soon to the people with whom I work.”
Him: “in relation to my work last Tuesday it was very important, and it is working, I will show you the writings š how was your day?
Me: “the day was a bit hard. I feel tired…”
Him: “there is still flu at this time…take care to rest. I hope we’ll be in good health.”
So now Anita it all seems back to normal…
He expressed his feelings and wants to carry on but somehow I don’t feel like it anymore. The trust is gone and the fear to be blocked again creeps in like the fog.
And I know that I can’t trust the spider again as he already showed his true colors last week.
I’m not questioning about his project anymore and just said that I feel tired now. I don’t feel the same like before.
Would you continue replying to his messages? What if he suggests a meeting?
It is true Anita that he doesn’t have many friends. I asked why before. He told me that had many before but only if there was a good time but once he needed something or real life came, all friends disappeared or were not that helpful. So he prefers to have 1 or 2 friends but of quality. But it looks like he gets offended very easily without really discussing things in a calm manner…
Anita, I think that my self esteem is based on my belief that I am less because I do not have the family I always dreamed of. And my lack of ability to choose the romantic partner for life? And also to quickly recognise the spider and say no! š
I don’t know how you got so strong and overcame those feelings of being not enough? I feel really proud of you š¤ I was working on myself as much as I could so I don’t feel like a victim all the time. But no strategy that I’ve tried is working.
What else can I do for my self-care? And for my self confidence despite what has happened in my childhood?
And now there is you who helps me in a gentle, yet assertive way to not fall too deep down ā¤ļø Thank you again Anita…
I feel there is not enough thank you for what you’re doing for me š
Hope to hear from you soon…
Have a beautiful day Anita š
February 16, 2025 at 2:03 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442891Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for your fast reply! I understand completely and please don’t force yourself to reply tonight. The rest can wait till tomorrow and he was so merciless leaving me without any word for those past days…he can wait too…
So I won’t say anything right and reply tomorrow as I might say the wrong thing to him…
Have a peaceful evening š
Talk to you tomorrow Anita š¤
February 16, 2025 at 1:04 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442887Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for this insightful summary š It really seems that he is busy with both projects at the same time! Showing me the property ads (without directly asking for help) could be his way of making me take a loan (but voluntarily).
It did not happen so he was waiting…And now the spider is back!
I feel relieved that he replied and I can have some answers but there is no apology whatsoever. And I’m still blocked on the other media.
He said that he is sad that we cannot understand each other but he doesn’t want this to end.
His further reply: “But I work in a team, it is linked to politics, I know that it is an atypical job, but I also have my food business on the side (he told me before that it was only admin work), and I have a hard time with the successive discouragements between you and your mother. I want your happiness and your security, but I can’t do more, abandoning what I do is not smart given the people involved.”
My reply: “I also feel sad about that. Please know that our intention was not to discourage you but actually to motivate you”
Him: “I didn’t feel this as encouragement but rather the opposite, because for both of you a successful deal in 1 month. In UK, at the institutional level, it takes us several months to get an appointment. As I told you, on the Italian side, in 4 months almost everything is ready. We are looking to do business in order to be part of the stores and really earn by investing in the joint venture, otherwise it is the investors who will earn more than us. I hope we will keep in touch, I wish you a lot of good and you know, I am sad about this situation.”
Me: “Life is not always easy. Some projects need more time. That’s true. But we need to learn to communicate better for the next time so we do not hurt each other by sudden disappearance or lack of understanding that.”
Do you agree with me?
Him:”I agree with you, but I am neither a dreamer, nor a liar, nor irresponsible, I give myself the means to go all the way, the project for two, family life is the most beautiful, but we must not give up what we do. I regret that you did not meet my friend who is a specialist in Asia, my partner in the UK who is linked to cinema or the Italian businessman who did a great job. But I introduced you to other friends who are jealous, they did not even call me for New Year’s Day. They are not people in this kind of business capable of talking, it was a mistake to introduce them to you, instead of reassuring you they put stress on you, I would not have done it”
That’s it Anita…I did not continue replying to this message as I don’t really know what else can I say? Those are his best friends and now he thinks that. I can’t say anything about them as I don’t know them that well. He said some nice words about the beauty of a family life but there is nothing new…
What else shall I say? And is it wise to continue texting him without him unblocking me on the other media?
What do you think of this whole situation now Anita?
I did not really expect him to reply but I’m glad you supported me with the choice I’ve made. And I’ll be even more careful right now as like you said he still might be a spider!
It feels a little bit like a plot from a dark movie now.
I can’t wait to read you Anita š
I’ll wait for your suggestions so I don’t make the same mistake like last time š«¢š
Have a good day! And thank you again for being here with me and not leaving me by myself š
February 16, 2025 at 9:30 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442883Dafne
ParticipantThank you Anita! I’m waiting for your message š
February 16, 2025 at 9:10 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442881Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
That’s really kind of you to say that š¤ just to let you know that I’ve sent him the text and waiting now for his reply…
Talk to you soon… āØļøš
February 15, 2025 at 1:16 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442876Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you for always lifting me up! Your encouragement keeps me going šš¤
The explanation you provided is brilliant. I can understand myself and my reactions more clearly now. You helped me to recognise those unhealthy patterns and hopefully avoid them in my future decisions.
Some men are so good at playing their game and it is not always easy to recognise the spider. This man was quite difficult to see through and recognise his true intentions but you did a fantastic job at peeling the layers of off his fantasy world and taking it for what it is now.
I am trying to convince myself to believe that he is not a spider but I’ll have my sure answer tomorrow.
I’m starting to believe now that if he is a loving person, he would not block me. And normally an old school gentleman I was hoping for, would not do that after questioning him or even after a heated argument.
But let’s see if he has any decency left and shows some compassion after behaving in such a dreadful manner. After reading your wise words, I can understand that there is no excuse for him, even if he felt that he can’t be the man he was hoping to be for me. He would still cherish the friendship we have and not leave me like that.
I’ll keep you posted once I receive a reply from him.
For now I’m gonna wish you a very good day.
I feel that we both can understand each others pain as we both suffered as someone’s daughters. We somehow reconnected on this forum to give eachother the understanding and wings to fly that we never got from our families.
Anita, even if we’re far away, thank you so much for making me feel less lonely š
Take care and talk to you soon xx
Warm greetings š¤šš»
February 15, 2025 at 1:55 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442871Dafne
ParticipantThank you Anita! Happy Valentine to you too š š š
I’m looking forward to your message. Have a good rest šFebruary 14, 2025 at 2:39 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442866Dafne
ParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much! š¤ that’s a beautiful way to receive some caring words on this day of love. I don’t know if you celebrate it Anita but for me it is a day not just for the people ‘in love’ but also for everyone else who shows those acts of kindness and love towards another human being. And I deeply appreciate that…
I don’t know where I would be today if not for your support and giving me hope for a better tomorrow.
You’re right. I am a lost soul who attracted another lost soul. Some say that it is a matter of vibrations and how you feel about yourself and your life. And sometimes even the kindest, most loving women end up with abusers, addicts and controlers as husbands. And women who do not care or even neglect their husbands, end up with the most kind and understanding souls. I don’t really understand that dynamic Anita…
But I agree with you and somehow I wish (even if with my last strenght) to brake free and find a place for myself where I can feel safe and not to walk on eggshels anymore. I want to try to brake those chains and move on from this dreadful stagnation but don’t really know where to start…
I just want to be able to believe someone when they tell me they care about me and they’ll always be there for me. That men seemed to be dependable and felt like an anchor for a while and then in the most unexpected manner turned to be so insensitive to my concerns.
And you’re right Anita all was fine until we started to question his project and his credibility (in person or by text – probably same results).
Maybe the project really exists but will take a long time and he was afraid that I will leave him knowing that. But still he should be honest about it.
I don’t know if he would accept any therapy or priest but he told me that the only thing that will make him feel better in life was seeing me happy and creating home with me. Empty words?
I forgot to mention to you that this man was consistent in courting me. He contacted me first. He showed that he liked me. He accepted to start with a friendship. He was different to men I knew before, who chased the physical intimacy first or were hot and cold or disappeared completely. They only created a heartache for me as I blamed myself or tried to revive the connection.
Maybe that’s the reason it is so hard for me to let go of that friendship? At the beginning I was very afraid of that new dynamic with him as I was used to meeting people who were not reliable or emotionally unavailable. If Iām being really honest with myself, I got even suspicious of why he was so available and nice to me.
But now once he’s gone I miss that consistency. And I feel that somehow I sabotaged myself…
Feeling loved and safe seems like a dream that is so far away…
I am mourning my childhood almost everyday and weeping for my lack of loving family. I don’t know how to keep living with this reality. It’s incredibly painful for me to have dreams and aspirations in life when I see no hope.
And now he is gone too…
But I will try to send your text over the weekend and see how it goes. Thank you Anita for writing this thoutful suggestion.
If I did not read your text, I would only write: ‘Hi, can we talk? I don’t want things to end this way’ Would that be ok too Anita?
Or maybe first send him the short version and if he replies then your version?
Thank you Anita for being here š I do not want to be a burden for too long. This weekend I wish to find the answers and the peace that they hopefully bring to me š
Have a lovely evening Anita
And lots of hugs to you! š«š¤
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