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  • in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442883
    Dafne
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    Thank you Anita! I’m waiting for your message šŸ˜Š

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442881
    Dafne
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    Dear Anita,

    That’s really kind of you to say that šŸ¤— just to let you know that I’ve sent him the text and waiting now for his reply…

    Talk to you soon… āœØļøšŸ’•

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442876
    Dafne
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    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for always lifting me up! Your encouragement keeps me going šŸ’–šŸ¤—

    The explanation you provided is brilliant. I can understand myself and my reactions more clearly now. You helped me to recognise those unhealthy patterns and hopefully avoid them in my future decisions.

    Some men are so good at playing their game and it is not always easy to recognise the spider. This man was quite difficult to see through and recognise his true intentions but you did a fantastic job at peeling the layers of off his fantasy world and taking it for what it is now.

    I am trying to convince myself to believe that he is not a spider but I’ll have my sure answer tomorrow.

    I’m starting to believe now that if he is a loving person, he would not block me. And normally an old school gentleman I was hoping for, would not do that after questioning him or even after a heated argument.

    But let’s see if he has any decency left and shows some compassion after behaving in such a dreadful manner. After reading your wise words, I can understand that there is no excuse for him, even if he felt that he can’t be the man he was hoping to be for me. He would still cherish the friendship we have and not leave me like that.

    I’ll keep you posted once I receive a reply from him.

    For now I’m gonna wish you a very good day.

    I feel that we both can understand each others pain as we both suffered as someone’s daughters. We somehow reconnected on this forum to give eachother the understanding and wings to fly that we never got from our families.

    Anita, even if we’re far away, thank you so much for making me feel less lonely šŸ™

    Take care and talk to you soon xx

    Warm greetings šŸ¤—šŸ’ŒšŸŒ»

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442871
    Dafne
    Participant

    Thank you Anita! Happy Valentine to you too šŸ’“ šŸ’– šŸ˜˜
    I’m looking forward to your message. Have a good rest šŸ˜Š

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442866
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much! šŸ¤— that’s a beautiful way to receive some caring words on this day of love. I don’t know if you celebrate it Anita but for me it is a day not just for the people ‘in love’ but also for everyone else who shows those acts of kindness and love towards another human being. And I deeply appreciate that…

    I don’t know where I would be today if not for your support and giving me hope for a better tomorrow.

    You’re right. I am a lost soul who attracted another lost soul. Some say that it is a matter of vibrations and how you feel about yourself and your life. And sometimes even the kindest, most loving women end up with abusers, addicts and controlers as husbands. And women who do not care or even neglect their husbands, end up with the most kind and understanding souls. I don’t really understand that dynamic Anita…

    But I agree with you and somehow I wish (even if with my last strenght) to brake free and find a place for myself where I can feel safe and not to walk on eggshels anymore. I want to try to brake those chains and move on from this dreadful stagnation but don’t really know where to start…

    I just want to be able to believe someone when they tell me they care about me and they’ll always be there for me. That men seemed to be dependable and felt like an anchor for a while and then in the most unexpected manner turned to be so insensitive to my concerns.

    And you’re right Anita all was fine until we started to question his project and his credibility (in person or by text – probably same results).

    Maybe the project really exists but will take a long time and he was afraid that I will leave him knowing that. But still he should be honest about it.

    I don’t know if he would accept any therapy or priest but he told me that the only thing that will make him feel better in life was seeing me happy and creating home with me. Empty words?

    I forgot to mention to you that this man was consistent in courting me. He contacted me first. He showed that he liked me. He accepted to start with a friendship. He was different to men I knew before, who chased the physical intimacy first or were hot and cold or disappeared completely. They only created a heartache for me as I blamed myself or tried to revive the connection.

    Maybe that’s the reason it is so hard for me to let go of that friendship? At the beginning I was very afraid of that new dynamic with him as I was used to meeting people who were not reliable or emotionally unavailable. If Iā€™m being really honest with myself, I got even suspicious of why he was so available and nice to me.

    But now once he’s gone I miss that consistency. And I feel that somehow I sabotaged myself…

    Feeling loved and safe seems like a dream that is so far away…

    I am mourning my childhood almost everyday and weeping for my lack of loving family. I don’t know how to keep living with this reality. It’s incredibly painful for me to have dreams and aspirations in life when I see no hope.

    And now he is gone too…

    But I will try to send your text over the weekend and see how it goes. Thank you Anita for writing this thoutful suggestion.

    If I did not read your text, I would only write: ‘Hi, can we talk? I don’t want things to end this way’ Would that be ok too Anita?

    Or maybe first send him the short version and if he replies then your version?

    Thank you Anita for being here šŸ’• I do not want to be a burden for too long. This weekend I wish to find the answers and the peace that they hopefully bring to me šŸ™

    Have a lovely evening Anita

    And lots of hugs to you! šŸ«‚šŸ¤—

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442840
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for that quick insight. Yes, I remember him mentioning to me knowing a priest who is an exorcist too. Probably he already helped him before. And also the same priest gave him first holy communion at the very late age. His Italian parents gave him a choice to do it later.

    The priest might be right as I also felt that by trying to contacting him, it will also help me to find the peace of mind as I wish for a better ending or no ending at all (rather a temporary brake till he follows with his promises).

    Have a good day Anita
    Hope to hear more from you whenever you can ā¤ļø

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442835
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I am really touched by your message and appreciate it with my whole heart šŸ™

    Your words of kindness and consolation helped me see a little light in the tunnel. And also to make me feel less guilty about asking him those questions. I think your questions were even more specific and would help me figure out the truth much sooner.

    You’re so right that he had no basic business knowledge and pretended to be and do more than he normally did.

    If he told me the truth from the start that he is a struggling artist working on a project that might take a long time (but is willing to find another work meanwhile till his project brings profits) then I would understand and support him and maybe even share the costs of bying a home together (but after marriage). But his evasiveness kept me questioning more and more. Isn’t it?

    My only regret now is asking him those business questions by text. Maybe talking in person would not lead to such a drastic measures and blocking me Anita? Maybe we could have had a peaceful talk and decided to remain friends?

    The hard thing for me is to move on and know how to live peacefully. The spider is gone but why do I feel so hearbroken šŸ’”?

    I had no idea that he can show me this strong emotional reaction and just block me (without further discussion and letting me reply to him).

    I was thinking a lot today and somehow could not find the peace of mind that I was hoping to feel. I decided to go to the church and encountered a priest who told me that I look troubled and asked if he can help.

    I told him of what has happened to me. I told him about you and your support. He was very pleased to know that you help me in this devastating situation.

    He also agreed with most things we have said about him before but added some surprising insights. He told me that we need to show compassion towards this lost soul and that probably he was ashamed of his current situation and couldn’t deal with rejection and more questions. He felt lost, helpless and knew that he will lose me sooner or later because there won’t be any results in sight but he was afraid to say so.

    The priest suggested that this man might struggle with mental issues, stress and a lot of pressure to perform in order to impress me. And it is a better idea to call him and see if everything is ok. To make sure that there is no more hurt feelings between us. Only then we will achieve the peace of mind. Is that something you would agree with Anita?

    I somehow feel that I need to fix it and have a peaceful ending šŸ˜• I feel awafeul right now…I guess like that fly from your poem…

    I am afraid that he got a nervous brakedown or planned something bad for himself. He seemed to be depressed. Indeed, he got rejected before and apparently got devastated once and might not manage it another time. I don’t want to be another reason for him to do something silly šŸ˜ž

    What do you think Anita? Shall I give it a try and call him? (unless he blocked me on the phone too). But just to say to him how I felt and that I want a peaceful feelings between us and not anger or bitterness (even if we won’t be together).

    Most of the time he treated me well and was always on time and thoughtful. He bought me some little gifts and I always prepared some home cooked treats for him in return. He helped me to escape that dreadful darkness I faced in my household. It somehow felt better and softer to be with him at times. It felt like I have a friend. That platonic connection seemed to be a blessing from Heaven.The only problem was the lack of transparency (or rather his fear that I might not like to see him the way he was – not really ready to get married). He tried to create a picture perfect image of himself so someone would love him.

    What should I do Anita? And in case you agree with the priest that it is ok to contact him, what would you say to him without sounding desperate or loosing the dignity?

    My heart is saying that the priest might be right on that spiritual attachment thing…

    Anita, thank you for your patience, efforts, and guidance in those past days. I’m so grateful you’re a part of my life journey. Thank you for being so committed to supporting me.

    It means a lot to me that you take from your time to help me. Thank you so much, and I hope to return the favour someday…

    I’m looking forward to hearing from you soon. I hope this will help us to have more answers šŸ™

    Warm greetings šŸ¤—
    Have a good day Anita! šŸŒø

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442803
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much! šŸ¤— I’ll read your message attentively tonight and reply to you tomorrow if that’s ok.

    Wish you a very good day and I hope you’re feeling more rested today šŸ™

    Big hug Anita šŸ«‚

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442798
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you dear. I appreciate that šŸ’ take your time and please only reply when you feel less tired.

    I’m looking forward to your message Anita

    Have a good day! šŸŒ¼

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442781
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for your quick reply šŸ’– I’m sorry for writing to you this late. I hope you do not have your notifications on so I won’t wake you up. I hope you can see it tomorrow šŸ™

    I love that analogy of a spider and a fly. I am that fly now which somehow got away or the spider decided not to eat her anymore. Or that maybe even that was his way to punish her and make her suffer even more.

    You won’t believe what happened today! I’m still quite shaken after the way it all turned out. He canceled our Friday’s meeting at the restaurant and blocked me too!

    Everything seemed ok this morning. He texted me and wished a good day. Then he mentioned having an online business meeting with man from abroad at 5pm and that it is the fault of politics that things are not moving forward in Europe. I’m copying to you the exchange of our text messages for better understanding:

    Me: “Yes, those are 2 different events I believe but it was quite confusing as so many projects are open šŸ˜Š”

    Him: “Yes, there are many projects underway, now we have the projects related to institutions, but we are also moving to classic business to have income, what is related to politics does not depend 100% on us”

    Me: “Yes, it seems like it is really hard to do anything there šŸ˜‰”

    Him: “Yes politically, France is complicated, and the companies that wanted to follow us cry because politics is slow, on the Italian side it is much more efficient. African level too, normally I return to China in June ‘parallel to that, we launch business unrelated to politics, that’s what we’re going to do later at 5 p.m.”

    Me: “Yes, it can be complicated, but some of my previous coworkers organised events in Europe, and they had no problems. It took only a matter of days and to open a business normally within weeks. How is that possible?” šŸ™‚

    “And what about the project in Italy? If Italy is more efficient, what’s stopping them?” šŸ™ƒ

    Him: “but nothing is stopped with Italy on the contrary, I have trouble understanding where you are going with this. I would be surprised if your friends raised 4 million for a joint venture in China like we just did.”

    Me: “Just trying to understand the delay.
    Maybe it is easier to understand because you know the plan better than I do” šŸ˜Š

    Him: “ok I’ll send you the business you’ll understand that on one side you have the Asiatic government, if it’s long it’s because we need the agreement of a government, the Italians have everything good, they have activated the diplomatic channel, we have the investors, now the Italian government must validate”

    This afternoon, I’m talking with Joh Mark who is this film producer, he produced, 200 million dollars budget, I’m sending you the presentation of my associate in France, we can see the topic of the film”

    Me: “Ok, thanks…I will read it later. Will you talk with him on the video?

    Him: “If your colleagues have set up a pizzeria or a rotisserie, it is normal that they earn money straight away, but these businesses take time, I sometimes have the impression that you don’t believe”

    Me: “Not pizzeria šŸ˜ƒ they hold CEO positions, but your business might be different. I’m only asking because we were talking about our project yesterday. I think we need results soon šŸ™

    Me: Anyways, good luck with your meeting today
    I have to finish few things. I hope to read your documents when I get home.”

    Him: “Can you tell me what company they created?

    Him: I just cancelled the reservation at the restaurant, I’m sorry, I need encouragement and not the other way around,

    Him: I’m blocking you too, I don’t want to chat with you anymore, I think your colleagues have nothing to do with what I’m doing.
    I’ve made enough effort as it is”.

    That was his last message and he blocked me without even reading my reply to him. I did not expect that to happen. I thought it is normal to discuss the project and its future. But blocking me was cruel (especially after such a long time).

    Anita, what do you think? Did I push him too much? He always says similar things about this project. Was I write to challenge him a little more than the usual: “I hope it will be fine…”

    Do you see any reason for blocking me? I don’t feel that I offended him in any way. I just did not want to go along with the same version. I wanted to see if there was any progress in sight.

    I don’t know why but I feel that I cared about him more than I thought.

    My reaction is a prove to me that in the end I did not really care about his financial stability, looks or having a house. I just wanted to be with a kind soul who sees me. I liked him for being there and that for the first time in my life I did not have to chase after a man. Do you think it was a tactic to get me attached?

    And as you rightly said the proposal threw me off balance. For a brief moment I felt that I do matter to him and that he had real feelings for me. For a brief moment I believed that my struggle is over and I can be happy again.

    But you’re right Anita. How could one such message create such a change in me and forget all the confusion and lack of clarity?

    I’m feeling hurt right now and actually quite guilty for talking too much šŸ˜Œ

    I was hoping to keep things friendly but got really surprised that he blocked me without hesitation and further discussion šŸ˜•

    I do not really know how to cope emotionally…you were so right when you mentioned the emotional investment before. I was not aware of that and what impact it may have on me in case of rejection. It feels awful. I really regret saying to him anything today…

    Maybe it is not meant for me to have that loving home. Maybe it is true that children carry the chains of their parents. The heavy energy and paying for their past (or even other family generations). There was a spiritual podcast about this. Do you believe in that Anita?

    I just want to express my gratitude for all you are doing for me. I wish one day I can repay you somehow…

    I’m looking forward to your message whenever you can šŸ˜Š

    Wish you a peaceful night Anita šŸŒ™āœØļøšŸ’¤

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442762
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much for being so thoughtful and compassionate šŸ’• I have a really hard time to take a decision and it is true that I do not want to hurt your feelings. But the reason I hesitate is his yesterday’s message. Just when I wanted to send him your message and I actually felt that taking some break might be a good solution. I was very very surprised of what he wrote.

    I will come back to his message later on…

    I know that you care about my wellbeing and your replies are based on solid life facts.

    I follow my emotions too much and this leads to disappointments, hurt and stagnation in my life.

    It is incredible how you were able to interpret and summarise his thoughts and behaviour in such a short period of time! I really thank you from all my heart for that and supporting me in every moment. You are an angel for me šŸ™

    I was rereading your messages and I realised that I overlooked the bit with a poem and also last morning’s message. I would like to tell you how amazing your poem was. And it made me shed some tears…

    Back to his message. He wrote that he wants to get engaged to me but would like to do it with a proper ring. He said he needs some time for that but could offer me another symbolic gift.

    I did not really know what to write in that moment. I was confused. He was waiting for my reply asking what I think and what would make me happy. I spontaneously said that I only want a traditional proposal and no symbols. And then asked him if he is really ready not only financially but in his mind too. He said that he wants future with me and will work on his stability.

    Deep down I feel that I might make the mistake of my life if I accept seeing him or accepting the engagement and never recover from that. I am afraid of what his real intentions might be..

    What do you think of all of that Anita? Is that some kind of trap? I don’t think we both expected that to happen and now I need to make a decision before Friday.

    What would you suggest to do and say in that situation?

    Shall I avoid seeing him on Valentine’s Day and choose another day to discuss more? I thought to tell him in person that maybe it is better to remain friends and get engaged once his situation is more clear and stable. And that I wish to see the promises he made to me…

    I always wanted to be a wife and long for a loving home. I also want to escape my current living situation but what if this man is another abuser? We already discussed the lack of transparency and the deception tactics he was using.

    Could it be that he is just not lucky in love and professional life and wants to project the best image of him? Or rather manipulate me into engagement so he could have more of control? This got even more complicated now…

    Please help Anita šŸ™

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442724
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you so much for such an amazing support and being so empathetic with me. I feel that I can count on you in this life’s hardship. You are there and you follow up on your word which gives me hope every day.

    You’re a real blessing to all of us in this forum šŸ™

    So many new emotions and memories are coming up to the surface. I would not be able to deal with all of that on my own.

    Your understanding of the situation resonates with me and I know that if I don’t change something now, I won’t be able to live. I need to do something before that darkness comes back again and the circle repeats. I don’t think I’ll be able to deal with another break down. My mind and body are so tired.

    I’m also afraid to live on my own and my family fuels that believe saying that women who live alone are mostly attacked or killed as there is no one to save them. I try to rationalise this statement but the fear is there and the guilt to move out.

    Thank you for crafting the message for me Anita! This is exactly šŸ’Æ what I need to say when the moment is right.

    Anita, I received another message from that man and he invited me to a restaurant on Valentine’s day as he wants to speak with me and ask more questions. I wanted to change for a different day but he got sad and insisted on that particular date.

    I agreed to that. So maybe it will be better to talk to him in person than by text? But will it be a proper manner to say it on Valentines day?

    He told me to choose a place and I made a choice but he told me that the one I’ve chosen is with some music and he wants a romantic place. Then he refused all places I wanted to go to because they were not romantic enough. He proposed another one and I accepted then told me that he can’t take me there. I believe he called them and probably it was too expensive. Then texted me that he made a booking to a different restaurant.

    Why did he ask me in the first place if he decided already? And why he could not plan it properly?

    Most places are booked far in advance. I don’t feel that it is someone who likes planning. This doesn’t give me the credibility and responsibility that I always longed for in people near me.

    I also don’t feel like talking to him too much in a restaurant as most likely it won’t go anywhere and my health might get even worse from additional stress.

    When I proposed a different day, he did not seem to care if I’m tired. He was not happy and told me that he can’t as he will travel to an event. Then once I accepted his invitation to the restaurant, he also invited me to travel to that event with him (only one week before the event). I refused saying that it is too late to go on a trip far away and he should tell me before.

    Is is someone who is just spontaneous? Or actually someone who lives like a teenager and changes from moment to moment?

    Anita, did I make a mistake in accepting this invitation to the restaurant on Valentines Day? I did not want to hurt his feelings and especially on that day. It was an impulse to agree and say yes to him. What would you do in my place?

    Maybe I can meet him and say those great words you crafted? Or just tell him to remain friends now and meet from time to time until his situation improves? Or do not meet at all until he shows me that he is ready? So many options here…

    I hope you’re having a lovely Sunday.

    Anita, your support means a world to me and I’m looking forward to hearing from you soon šŸ’

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442719
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Please don’t worry. I appreciate it & looking forward to hearing from you again.

    Have a good evening and please take as much time
    as you need to reply.

    Thank you for calming my worried mind šŸ™

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442714
    Dafne
    Participant

    Hello Psychicramdev,

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I completely agree with you. But this approach only works with more traditional and serious minded men. Most men in Western world want some kind of romantic expression within a short time.

    I believe in a friendship till marriage and I seem to be a rare exception here. I feel that I do not fit into this modern world.

    Have you any experience with courtship in Western world? I would really appreciate to know more about your approach and I’d love to learn how to survive in this world.

    Thank you šŸ™

    in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #442713
    Dafne
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for your reply, even at night. That’s really considerate of you. I’am looking forward to reading your insights soon šŸ˜Š

    And I’m sorry for a long-winded message. I just felt like expressing to you the whole story without being one sided.

    Hope to hear from you very soon Anita šŸ™
    Have a great weekend šŸŒ¼

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