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GaiaParticipant
I have a question, what do you think is the best way to see and process what is that happened in one’s childhood? Because I feel like working everyday on healing techniques is only half the work isn’t it? Is there’s a particular attitude you think I should have about this childhood turmoil of mine that you clearly feel like I don’t always validate?
GaiaParticipantYes, you’re real in my life and yes, no one else put so much time and dedication to help me, not since a high school friend of mine tried to assure me that a certain crush liked me back and that I was the one in fault not noticing it (he had a gf by the way) but this is a old weird story
One thing I was wondering last night and this morning, as my brain default engaged in angry scenarios, was that what hurts me the most is feeling rejected or outcasted. It something that happened all my life since elemantary school til this very day, not being fully rejected nope but neither loved or valued. I’m part of it, I’m not rejected or hated but I’m neither loved either, it’s like I’m merely being tolerated.
GaiaParticipantI actually feel like I’m being mindful of most the concepts you’ve brought about me: the Histrionic personality about my mother and the Magnifying Glass in my mind because of her influence, her being so insufferable to cause a chronic cringey feeling in me. I know it, and yes it’s true I should go back to the read about it all because you’ve spend a significant amount of time and dedication on me and my issues and I value it all.
I value it because even if you aren’t here with me to see it in my everyday life, I am mindful of when there’s that “Magnifying Glass” putting my feelings and thoughts to the extreme, I am mindful to stop and try to make my distorted thoughts more rational and less extreme, I am mindful of the 4 steps of correcting feeling though and behavior that you shared. Or your link about guided meditation. I’m sorry if you think I ignore your advices, I try to apply them a little almost everyday and yes, I know I may sound dense or stubborn about my childhood being normal I don’t even know myself why I do it.
- This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Gaia.
GaiaParticipantIt’s not that I don’t want to believe you, I know my upbringing wasn’t perfect or my parents were, I know very well they were problematic on certain fronts so any input from you about how my childhood affects me now is absolutely always welcomed. The issue is more about me, in the sense I can’t see how any of that is still enough for me to be like this now.
GaiaParticipant1. My childhood experience wasn’t abnormal, not compared to people who had violent parents, unstable households, sexual abuse, early responsabilities, wars and starving. I just remember I was already an uhappy child, I was unhappy because I wished I could be one of those fantasy main characters finding a magic place and finding their own place. I really longed for that, my heart literally ached.
2. I think about this a lot, believe me. The more I think about my childhood, the more I can’t make sense out of myself and why I am brought up like this. I can’t recall a significant thing that should legitimate my anger now.
3. I express myself a lot better by writing that I do talking, and you are particularly detail oriented and analytical, I guess this helped making this thread possible
- This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Gaia.
GaiaParticipantAnita
You’re right, many many things make me feel shitty and since childhood, I often wonder why. Nope, not necessarily in a self pitying/loathing way but in a neutral, objective way, why anger and negativity is my default state? I hope not to sound like I’m falling in comparison once again but I’m particularly aggressive or opinionated compared to others, who have a more carefree or fun oriented attitude, especially people my age.
I know how working with professionals works because I already experienced it in my teen years to treat my OCD. A few years later I abandoned my meds because me and my parents believed there were no longer useful and because my psychiatrist only worked with minors so it was time for me to let go of her (I was 18, at this point). For a while, I also worked with a psychologist, one of the very few available in my very little town. She was good overall but not the type of person I would confide with the stuff I say here, I also guess I’m not very good at expressing myself in real life especially since my turmoils are very vague and not always easy to articulate.
As you know I’m still in uni and financially dependant on my parents, the last thing I want now is to open the debate on my mental health once again, however I made a promise to myself that the first thing I will do once financially independent, is to start working with a psychotherapist. Finding someone that can understand you and is fit for your specific issues isn’t exactly an easy search, surely not in my zone.
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
Today it hit me again how much of my youth I’ve wasted and keep wasting, it doesn’t help that Valentine’s day is in a few days and I’ll spend it without a significant other like I did since forever. I know it’s a silly capitalist holiday but it really succeds in making you feel shitty. Sometimes I feel like one of my closest friends pities me somehow, she has quite a mysoginist view I can barely stand and sometimes I feel like me being single and unexperienced is shameful. She’s obsessed with looking like a good girl and along with her mother, is always calling other women sluts and whores. They have a pretty much degradating view of women like they still believe in virginity checks and stuff like that. I honestly believe her mother is abusive and brainwashed her all life in believing that her only purpose is to commit to someone else and be a good girl. I’m sorry for it, my friend is a good person, I only wish I could make her understand there’s other in life besides not looking like a whore or being a good girl.
By the way, sometimes I feel like by trying to change my mindset and feelings is a waste time, sometimes I even think I should kill myself because my life is a wasted life and will always be wasted. I feel in cage, and since I feel frustration increasing in me and have no one else to say these things beside on this thread, I started throwing things (only clothes, don’t worry) around my room to express myself somehow
GaiaParticipantAlso, I used to feel like I was born to either live in a fantasy world doing epic things or in this world with totally different lifestyles, like certain attitudes, music, experiences fit me so naturally, but I am not fit for them (don’t know if this sentence written out to someone else that isn’t me makes sense) I guess that’s also where my feeling of not belonging or of being fragmented comes from: not only I feel detached from certain roots, it’s also like I have several different (unlived) potentials and identities that never saw the light so that’s how I feel about myself: something both existing and not, a lot of things that could have been, could be, that never was.
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
I Always defined “living more” as doing more= more experiences, activities, people to know and hang out with, things or relationships accomplished, places I’ve been with, feelings I’ve experienced, both joy and pain
This “doing more” Anthem has been the curse of my existence, so I actually like the idea of living as simply to feel calm, or joyful,
I’m practicing staying with my feelings and accept whatever I feel, I try to fix my thoughts using the rational approach that you suggested, I’m fairly good at it. One thing about myself is that I either am overwhelmed by certain feelings or don’t feel nothing at all. Blank. This scares me sometimes. For example, I’ve done a Inner Child Guided Meditation and got aquainted with the inner child concept (well yes, I like psycho-spiritual things) and whenever I read about people crying about doing these things I can’t help but notice how I either feel totally blank or like the inner child inside of me is basically non existent, a bit like my soul.
GaiaParticipantWhat do I think about it… I think that you better do what I am doing but way sooner than I started, and that is: do all that you can do to lower and lower that suffering. To put it in a different way: do all that you can do every day to die a little less and live a little more.
How would you personally define to “live a little more” and what is to you “dying a little less”?
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
I’ve re-read some of your replies on how to manage feelings and behaviors and on The Magnifying Glass. One thing I’m specifically trying is to show myself empathy and staying mindful of the present moment by accepting whatever I’m feeling and the reality around me.
I’ve also another, personal, input: the way I live is very “in-my-mind”, on autopilot, dissociated, celebral. These are the words I felt like saying, and instinctively I’d also suggest that what I need is break from electronic devices, be more aware of the world around me, slow down, be mindful. I’ve mentioned other times to you how I don’t even feel like a person, everything that makes a person a person (hobbies, relationships, experiences, opinions, likes and dislikes…) Feels shattered, arrested, out of center, existent &non existent in and out of me. These words I’m using are very instinctive. I definitely feel the need to look at myself in the eyes, connect, feel tangibly and in a solid way what makes me me and not just let it races around in my mind. Did you also feel like this? What do you think about it?
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
I don’t want you to think I ignored your post, but I will re-read it carefully and slowly so to give you another response.
I am used to read and assimilate things fast and I know it can give the impression I ignore things, and I know, it’s not a very good habit (well, truth is I also eat, talk, and walk fast)
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
Then empathy for yourself, insert thoughts such as: I am not a crybaby, I am suffering. I need to help myself, to calm myself, to de-escalate, hush… sweet Gaia, sh… it will be okay. You will see. I will feel better soon. Sh
I try to talk kindly to myself or re-parent myself but I usually either abandon good habits/routines I was starting to build or start hating myself again. This has been the cycle of a lifetime: trying to change my mindset or routine but always failing after 1/2 weeks or even after a few days. I’m trying to accept this and not be too rigid, I feel bad that I commit to positive healing journeys but never truly stay consistent with them
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
First of all, thanks for this last post where you’ve addressed techniques for me to explore, lately I’ve been tried radical acceptance of my emotional states, mindfulness, meditation, but I don’t know if they really work.
Tonight my intense emotions and turmoils have hit me deep again. A mixture of intense rage, anxiety, obsession, compulsive checking, despair. I’ve learned that my father may have a illness in his pancreas and I still don’t know if it’s a serious thing or not. I’m terrified that it may end up with his death, that it’s just started a slow and uncertain process for his health that may end up in the worst case. I’m afraid because in 2/3 months ive seen 2 close relatives die suddenly and this has left me very anxious, I’m afraid that my father will be the next or someone else. When the phone of one of my parents ring I tense up and gets nervous because I’m afraid there’s bad news coming of someone dying, this is stressing me so much
Also the same old shit of feeling caged in my compulsive habits, I feel like a slave to them, I tried to detach then I crave them. This has increased my anger and frustration, + the fact that any small interaction make me feel like shit. I know I sound like a crybaby that always whines but that’s how I feel. I meditate, I spend time in nature, I try to be mindful of my environment and of myself, I try to understand my mind better and I challenge my negative patterns but they only feel like small breaks from the hell I usually find myself in. Tonight has been a time of intense negativity, I felt rage at my dog (that I usually love) for behaving aggressively sometimes, rage at my crush, rage at social justice matters, I can feel my brain race in a crazy way. Sometimes when my anger takes the best of me I imagine very violent scenarios either without my will or encouraged by my anger, it shocks me and left me concerned, it’s like a evil entity takes the control of me. I’m genuinely concerned that one day in real life something or someone will trigger me intensely and I’ll do some regrettable shit. That’s all, I hope reading this won’t disturb you much.
GaiaParticipantDear Anita
So did you also need emotion regulation? How did it work for you, what steps it required?
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