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Hi Maxine
I’m really sorry you are going through this. For what it’s worth I think you have been very strong and shown a lot of compassion for your partner. But you are not happy, and you feel lost, and tired, and overwhelmed. There are more women in your position than you might think…all of them wondering if they should stay or leave. It’s clear your feelings for him have changed…I think you have given up on the idea that he will change and subsequently lost respect for him (not in a bad way, but in an understandable way).
In my humble opinion, I think you should find a small, affordable apartment for you and the kids. Then sit him down and explain very gently and as lovingly as possible that you are desperately unhappy in the relationship (and that you think he is too) and that you can’t see how continuing the way you have been will bring either of you any real happiness. Explain that you will always be connected because if the children, and that you are not interested in being with someone else right now, that all you want is a trial separation to see if you might both be happier living apart from each other. Be really honest with him and say the things you need to (but calmly). Explain how you have felt increasingly isolated and alone in the relationship, that his use of marijuana isn’t conducive to the kind of family life you want for all if you. That you are tired of waiting for things to change and have now come to the realization that you have to make a change for yourself and the kids. That you just want good things for all of you, and maybe that means living apart. He may feel a sense of relief, if he’s feeling the same way, or he may get angry and upset, but either way he will have to acknowledge that things can’t stay as they are. It might be the wake up call he needs, and perhaps he will finally “get it” and make some real changes. Or maybe he won’t and your trial separation will become a permanent one. Whatever happens, I honestly don’t think you will regret giving yourself a chance at happiness again.
I wish you all the best. Please let me know how you get on 🙂
DecimaParticipantHi Sheryl, I’m sorry you are going through this, it’s a difficult situation no doubt.
I’ve experienced in-law problems myself, so know first hand how hard it can be to resolve them. Here are my thoughts on your situation based on what you have said:
Your SIL is probably feeling anxious, jealous, and possibly resentful. It’s difficult to tell from your post, but it sounds as if she has very firm conservative beliefs, and the fact that you and your boyfriend travel together unmarried upsets her, as well as the fact that you are not Catholic. You don’t say how old she is so it’s difficult for me to determine if age is a consideration in her behavior. Does she simply lack the maturity to handle her emotions better? If she’s young (teens or younger) then there is hope that she will ‘grow up’ over time. If she is older then I think you may have a much bigger problem.
Your MIL and FIL are allowing the behavior to continue, which makes me wonder if they kind of agree with her but don’t want to be the bad guys to their son…or maybe they just don’t see how destructive her behavior really is. It sounds like she rules the roost a little. Either way, you are not likely to get much (if any) support from them. So that leaves your boyfriend. Have you had a truly honest conversation with him about how his sister’s behavior is making you feel? If not, then that’s where you have to start, because, to be totally honest with you, if he’s not on board and on your side and willing to step in and deal with his family, your marriage will suffer. Maybe not right away, but over time it will cause resentment, anger, and hurt that can’t be easily forgotten (I say this from my own experience).
If he’s not willing to talk to his sister then I think you need to seriously consider whether you want to marry into that family. Please understand this, because I wish I had known this before I got married – you are not just marrying the man, you are marrying into the whole family. It’s a truly sobering thought. Some people make it work by moving as far away from the troublesome family members as they can, but that’s obviously not an option for everyone.
If you do decide to go ahead with the marriage, my advice to you would be to stand your ground and don’t let your SIL or her parents dictate your behavior. Make choices that are right for you, that way you are not going to feel as hurt in the future because you made sacrifices which amounted to nothing. And if your boyfriend is mature enough, and truly loves you, he will understand your choices, even though it complicates things with his family. Hopefully he can see (and acknowledges to you) how badly his sister is behaving. He may not have the courage to stand up to her if he’s been raised a certain way, but he should not expect you to allow yourself to be treated as a door mat.
I wish you well, and hope things resolve so that you can have a beautiful wedding and marriage!
DecimaParticipantIt is estimated that between 5% to 15% of the population are “highly sensitive people” (HSP). It is very likely that you are in that group. HSP struggle with a depth of feeling that most people can not understand. Your intense fear of losing loved ones is not unusual in this group as attachments are on a whole different level. The best advice I can give you is to accept the fear and let it be there instead of fighting and trying to overcome it (which will likely be futile and leave you feeling even more helpless). Accept that you are afraid and allow yourself to think about the fact that one day the people you love will die, and what this means for you.
Then find things you can do for your loved ones…maybe cook your grandma’s favorite meal for her once a week, or take your parents out to dinner and a movie, it doesn’t really matter what it is as long as it’s something different than what you normally do for them. If you share a religion or belief in spirituality with your loved ones then use that to connect on a deeper level with them. Perhaps you believe that you will all be together in the afterlife, or that we are all connected to the same consciousness and so cannot truly die, only the physical form. Pray for your loved ones every day…this simple ritual can bring a lot of peace.
Then try to find something for yourself…a hobby that can occupy some of your time and thoughts and maybe bring you into contact with people who have similar interests.
Lastly, do something on a regular basis that requires physical exertion (hiking, or swimming can be amazing at letting you forget your worries, even if just for a while).
I don’t know if any of this will help, but I do know that you are stronger than you know. Please post again and let us know how you are getting on.
DecimaParticipantSylvia, it can’t have been easy walking away from a 21 year marriage…you have more strength than you know. Keep working through things as best you can, at the end of the day that is all any of us can do. I hope you find some peace and happiness.
DecimaParticipantI feel your pain, having been in a somewhat similar situation myself, and my heart goes out to you.
You are clearly a highly sensitive person with a lot of empathy, and you want to heal his pain. The truth is that you can’t, and if you continue to stay in this relationship you will become more and more depressed yourself. He’s not capable of giving you what you need right now…he may never be capable, no matter how much of yourself you sacrifice. You are already feeling helpless and frustrated, trust me, those feelings will only get worse as time goes on. I say this to you from my own personal experience. I hope and pray that one day he will heal, but when and if, that day comes it is not in your hands. I hope you find the strength to consider your needs in all of this.
DecimaParticipantNina
You seem like a really nice person, and you seem to have a lot of insight about yourself. It sounds to me like your parents are basically good people, and maybe they have made some mistakes along the way (who hasn’t). I’m in my forties and I remember being twenty-something and having self doubt and questioning the way my parents brought me up. It’s ok to do a little of that, but be very careful not to let it become a cloud over your head, or an obsession. Try and find ways to work on improving your self confidence without over over analyzing the reasons behind it.
I hope that doesn’t come off as insensitive, as that is not my intention. I’m not trying to minimize your feelings in any way. I truly hope you find peace and self acceptance.
DecimaParticipantWatch Tony Robbins…if you can afford his CDs etc buy a set, otherwise watch as many YouTube clips of him as you can. Do this daily for maximum effect. Actually, any motivational speaker will do, I just like Robbins’ style. Whenever I feel stuck in a rut or demotivated I find listening to him helps me to break out of my negative thought patterns.
Hope this helps you. Good luck 🙂
DecimaParticipantHi there. I’m so sorry you are going through this. Your MIL sounds exactly like mine, so I understand exactly how you are feeling. Wish I could tell you things will get better, but it is very unlikely. This woman is abusing you on purpose. She knows exactly what she is doing. Most likely it comes from deep rooted insecurity and a narcissistic personality.
I’ve been through 8 years of this myself. I knew that my MIL was trying to hurt me on purpose and she succeeded on many occasions. I didn’t want to say anything because because I didn’t want to rock the boat and cause trouble. On the odd occasion that I did say something She would just use it to play the victim. I realize that there was no conversation or understanding that could be reached with her because she didn’t want to have a relationship with me. Everything I tried to do was in vain. I’m constantly amazed at just how horrible she could be.
My husband didn’t want to deal with the situation for a long time…he just made excuses for her behavior, until one day her behavior was so bad even he couldn’t ignore it. I refused to see her for a long time, and my husband severely reduced his contact with her too. I allowed him to take our son to visit with her, but I only did this grudgingly. I do see her again now and then, but the dynamic has changed and she knows that she no longer has the power over me that she used to. A big reason for this is that my husband really stepped up and made it clear that me and our child are his priority. This has been a very difficult process for him as she really puts him through the grinder if he tries to stand up for himself. i don’t think I could have stayed in the marriage if he had not done this.
Is there any chance your boyfriend will do the same for you? It is the only scenario in which you may be able to maintain a basic acquaintance with her. Understand this, she will never change. Even if she starts to be nice, don’t buy into it. People like this are truly toxic and only waiting to lull you into a false sense of security before going for the jugular again. You have to find a way to protect yourself from her. Start by seeing her for what she truly is, and giving yourself permission to protect yourself from her.
You say that you don’t want to say anything to your boyfriend, but maybe it’s time to sit him down and explain how devastating his mother’s behavior is to you, and how much it is impacting you. Don’t be accusatory, stay calm and approach him in a living manner. If you feel the need to cry when talking to him, let the tears come, let him see how hurt you really are. Tell him that you love him and have tried for a long time to protect him but now you need his help. You might be surprised by the reaction you get. He might know deep inside what us happening isn’t right, but just doesn’t want to deal with it. On the other hand, he might just shut down and refuse to understand. Be prepared for this if you do choose to talk to him. If that happens, there is not much you can do. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Your priority has to be to protect yourself.
I truly hope that things improve for you. You sound like such a sweet person. I’m sorry that you don’t have your own mom’s support, but know that there are women everywhere who understand and are rooting for you.
DecimaParticipantHi Katherine
I have been married for 8 years to a great man, who also happens to have been emotionally unresponsive for a long time. Things are better now, he has learned to open up and we talk about a lot of things now, and our marriage is stronger than ever. However, there were a LOT of times early in the marriage when I felt that I had made a BIG mistake marrying him.
He was very nice, but didn’t get excited about birthdays or holidays, or even vacations…all things that I get very excited about. We had major problems with his mother who interfered and crossed some serious boundaries on many occasions, but he was unable to get angry at her behavior and as a result was not able to understand that he needed to stand up for me, for us. That put a lot of strain on our relationship. I loved him very much, but his lack of ability to ‘feel’ things was a very real problem. Arguments usually ended up with me yelling (shame on me) just to get a reaction out of him as he would just be unavailable. It got to the point where I was reeady to leave because I felt so disconnected from him emotionally.
I just want to be clear that I’m not playing the blame game here, we were both just different people, and even though I had the same concerns you do now when we fist got engaged, I decided to take a chance, even though things weren’t perfect. As time went on in our relationship, we both got to know and understand each other better…I learned a lot from him (and continue to do so), and he slowly started to express himself. It took a lot of effort, but we have a much happier (not perfect!) relationship. The thing is, I got lucky…he changed and I changed…we made compromises, both of us. In all honesty, if he hadn’t been able to meet me half way then I don’t think I coould have stayed with him. At the end of the day, it is a chance you are taking…and no marriage is perfect, they all have challenges…if you love him enough then it might be worth the risk despite your concerns. I wish you all the best.
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