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  • in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409832
    farnaz
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    dear anita

    i think that would work .

    like in therapy sessions in which you live your trauma once more and express your real feeling or relive it and you are hopefully replaying it in your mind again

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409822
    farnaz
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    Dear Anita

    by forgiving i meant not giving others the power to hurt you even if they are not even in your life , the anger that all the memories of past causes over and over again .

    You are welcome to explore and process the message in your anger here, on your thread, if you feel comfortable enough doing so. As a matter of fact, ifit works for you, we can do it together: I will further process my anger while you process yours:i would be glad to do it with you but i don`t know how that works exactly , what is your idea about processing your anger?

    Farnaz

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409788
    farnaz
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    Dear tee

    thank you for your reply . i totally agree with you “Forgiveness is free, trust is earned. i`m willing for forgive people for my own  freedom but trusting them???in most cases , NO

    its already hard for me to trust people . even to people who didnt wrong me in the past . and unfortunately i did more than once trusting someone again who i shouldnt and i hate to admit it but it was out of desperation. well im stronger now and i prefer to be alone than in bad company  

    i have a question for you , how many of people who you needed to forgive for any reason are still in your life ?for me most of them gone for good .

    I actually don`t believe people who were deceitful would stay once you saw through them .

    and i will definitely watch the video u recommend, thank you xo

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409787
    farnaz
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    Dear Anita

    in my opinion feeling superior actually means you deep down are insecure and feel inferior to others

    i mean acting superior means you actually feel inferior , i could see it in others , because we can see others fault more easily but ive never met anyone anybody who acts  arrogant that is not insecure and dont feel bad about his life , this is a copping mechanism . as you said we can never be happy when see ourselves superior or inferior to others .

    another problem i had that i think its stem was feeling superior or inferior was overvaluing people , i thought they are better than me and because of my situation of not having my mom around me some people tried to take advantage of it or try to mislead me intentionally , although i could see through them i didnt talk about it for a while and unfortunately i hung out with them until i finally had enough . im actually working on forgiving those kind of people not for them but for myself . i dont dream to hang out with them or see them .they are not trustworthy at all .

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409754
    farnaz
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    Dear anita

     a more important question is.. do we fall with them? i believe i did and it was hard at first but after a while that was liberating , i mean i found out that life is cruel .for some people can be easier and for some  is terribly cruel and im no exception . before that i felt that thing shouldnt happened to ME that was normal for somebody else , obviously i felt superior and that made everything much harder but when i realized im not special that made it  much more tolerable  , maybe its not related to our discussion but it was my experience , so i can say yes i fell with my parents from pedestal back then but i wasnt crushed actually im happier now   Equal in human value is a good place to be in.

    by villain i meant bad people who do bad things on purpose , i sometimes think my dad was hurting me on purpose , but i admit he had grown up alot after my moms death , before that he was like a little boy with no responsibilities and was so angry that my mom was not able to support him (mentally and emotionally ) any more but he did take care of my mom till the end and he did his best to make everything go on as normal as possible . actually now that im writing about my father i realized how he actually changed and my mom`s death shook him really hard (i had never thought about it

    and by forgiving and trusting , i mean with people who are in your life who hurt you in the past , but still are in your life and you want them to be in your life once you forgive them can you trust them again ? i think trust some step further than forgiveness

    i know that`s a general question it really depends on that person and what happened in the past , for example people who repeatedly  try to put you down or cross your boundaries can be forgiven but not trusted

    but people who did one mistake and try to somehow make up for that . do u trust them again ?

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409752
    farnaz
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    Dear anita

    wow , one of therapist i worked with also diagnosed me with borderline personality disorder too . i studied about it asome how nd i learnt BPD is manageable actually unlike other personality disorder which are mostly so intrusive and unchangeable . i can see my improvement during recent years , i as like yourself need to pay attention to our pattern of behavior to not fall in old ones . as you mentioned in the first paragraph of your last post i used to think very highly of my parents , and my parents also thinking of themselves very highly , they were arrogant when i look back they were educated and smart and did far better that their peers study wise. when i realized than my mom was terminally ill this was truly a shock in so many level , i thought my parents could do everything , in my teenage mind , how couldnt do anything about my moms illness , that was devastating beside my biggest fear of losing my mom , i recently begin to forgive both of them , i dont say i hate them before but sometimes i saw them as villain. it applies to other people too ,people who kicked me when i was down , people who wronged me in some way . some of them that are no longer in my life and never try to undo their deeds are harder to forgive but easier to forget. but do i trust people who still in my life completely ?NO

    i dont think thats prudent to trust anybody 100% but forgiving is possible , do you think not trusting people can prevent you from forgiving them ?

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409738
    farnaz
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    Dear Anita

    absolutely , we should continue  the discussion ,

    i had somehow different experiences with people but it was as dysfunctional . i put people on pedestal , i valued them more than myself they noticed it and somehow use it against me time to time not following through their promises or try to deceive me thinking i wouldnt dare to cut the ties with them cause they were so important and after a while i got sick with them , sometimes i avoided them completely and sometimes if the situation was so frustrating i exploded and told them how i really feel about them , in the same time my inner thoughts were confirmed , PEOPLE ARE OUT TO GET ME , NOBODY IS TRUSTWORTHY and that made me even more isolated . recently i realised almost all of people surrounding me have some similar characteristics which i mentioned in my first post , i.e lack of motivation , laziness , etc and i compare the people who helped me in very hard situation , mostly a acquaitance or somebody i barely know who were very helpful and kind by nature , and i realized not all people are bad but im surrounded  by them all my life ,maybe they are not bad really but the circumstances mad them to be , anyway we should avoid them .

    i`m glad that you progress in your journey of trusting people, hopefully i get there too . i would be so happy to hear from you again in further posts , take care .

    in reply to: being surrounded with bitter people and lonliness #409704
    farnaz
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    thank you dear Anita for the reply , im sorry about your experience with your mother , i can relate to it alot .maybe thats harsh to say but my mom wasnt a happy person and she put all of us down , she turned me and my sibling against each other i dont think that was intentional but the result is all of us feel isolated and alone . have you ever thought if i can`t trust my family who i can trust then ?i noticed you used the past tense  describing your lonliness , hopefully you manage to overcome that , could you share more about your experiences?

    farnaz

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