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    That’s interesting Inky,

    I wonder if it’s just our mindset that is present when we’re out about travelling vs. living comfortably doing normal stuff in our every day lives. I feel like food eaten during travels just is so calorie-laden and rich compared to normal foods & drinks we make at home… all those extra sneaky calorie bombs that are put into those foods and drinks that we don’t even think of doing at home. Do you think that may have something to do with it? I think it has to do a lot with the mindset though and the deep comfort that usually comes with being home and in that routine. It affords us peace of mind and sanity, those sacred things that are important to each of us, whatever that may look like for each person. I feel like if that is disrupted, our bodies can feel like they are getting derailed somehow, or at least our minds in some way.

    #308145

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    B, thank you for your wisdom here. That is very cool. I liked how you said “, I am not motivated by food; I am motivated by feeling well.” and also what an excellent point that really resonated with me: “I think the Western diet and lifestyle is totally messed up, to be blunt. We are eating large portions of “fast food” and not exercising regularly, and this is now considered “normal”.  So people don’t feel well anymore, both physically and emotionally, and they’re reaching for the wrong fixes — opioids, social media, porn, etc., — to escape not feeling well.” We have such a toxic relationship with food here in America. We have spiraled so far downward it is just… horrific. However, there are still those that practice mindful eating that promotes a gentle relationship with food and therefore the effect it has on their bodies. Such people I’m sure don’t need to rely much on the crutch of opioids, porn, other mindless distractions, etc. Food in, food out, clean eating, clean body. I think we tend to complicate things the way we perceive food. It doesn’t need to be complicated or expensive to be mindful and healthy.

    #308111

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    Hi Inky, thank you for your feedback. I too can relate to when you said ” Cheese is my beloved downfall. Don’t think I can gracefully go vegan as a lifestyle.” Cheese is also a large vice of mine… lol. But I do enjoy how it doesn’t have many or any carbs, and I honestly think it gets a bad wrap too often. You said travelling is a huge challenge, would you mind expanding on what you mean by that a little? For me, I can say travelling is also a huge challenge for me in the respect that it scares me to shake up my eating routine/habits and feel “forced” even though I’m not being forced, per se, to eat on someone else’s schedule or if eating at the time I’m hungry simply isn’t a viable option for one reason or another. So I feel a perceived loss of control that my eating routine is being dishonored and out of my control, which stresses me out. I really would love to enjoy travelling more from the standpoint that it’s awesome to go to new places and try new foods! That sounds so exciting! It is something I am actively trying to improve on, something that I used to do in past years before my whacky eating patterns flared up again. Now I like to pack snack foods in my purse like a weirdo and eat them in the bathroom in secrecy if need be. It is really shameful and embarrassing to me but I would rather do that and regret it then go on ravenously hungry and get “hangry” and overeat and spend too much money on a bunch of foods out somewhere.

    #308109

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    Thank you for your input, Brandy. I like how you said, “I’m not afraid of gaining weight because it hasn’t been happening.” I frequently hear one of the most vital components of healthy living that allows yourself the most fun and ‘permission’ is to simply let go and not worry…there’s no point to it. Is that one of the strategies you employ with your eating? Or do you simply not give it much thought at all? How much time and energy do you put into your eating beforehand and during? Thank you!

    #307791

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    Hi Inky, thank you for your reply. If you don’t mind I have a few questions that if you’d like to answer I would be interested in reading them:  How many meals a day do you usually prefer to eat? Do you eat consistently throughout the day or take breaks of fasting at all? What do you think works best for you? Have you ever had periods in your life where you changed up your methods of eating?

    #307185

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    Hiking and being out in nature can be so healing, yes. Now that sounds like a great idea: kayaking in the river. Have fun Katie!!

    #307171

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    No worries, Katie, I totally understand! Me too (in regards to my responses). Thank you for all your input.  I really got a lot out of when you said this: “I don’t think we realize how much shame plays a role in how we live our lives…like we go through life thinking there is something wrong with us and we constantly struggle to be our authentic selves. When we can let go of the shame buried inside of us, it’s much easier to be our authentic selves…sometimes other people don’t like this because we become less “people-pleasing”. But there is such a freedom in being yourself. ”

    I also liked how you illustrated such great points on Brene Brown’s works. They sound comforting and illuminating, that it is all okay and there’s never anything wrong (with us).

    When you said “I guess ideally we would all be able to just be present and not wanting to be somewhere else, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with looking forward to being somewhere you know will bring you peace.” It is so true, when we stop and think about it. There IS nothing wrong with that, in regards to the concept perhaps pulling us out of the present. It is important to look forward to peace, even though it should ideally be found in the present. Sometimes I simply cannot achieve this to the degree I would like to. It needs work. LOL. But that is also okay. It should always be a continual work in progress. That is growth, and that requires time and gentle understanding and unfolding for all of us.  In regards to my happy place up North, there are many beautiful places in my state. I love venturing up North because there are so many pine trees, breezy cold air, and silence. It is restorative and I feel like whenever I go there, the whipping winds that blow into my face and all around me wash away the noise. The noise is replaced by the white noise of the wind all around that drowns out stress. Sometimes I find cleansing in white noise vs. total silence. It depends on my mood. It is refreshing not to hear cars whizzing by, people chatting incessantly, keys clacking, people walking, talking on the phone, etc, etc, etc… I have more than one happy place obviously, but this one is so majestic!! 🙂  Do you have a happy place (or two) you like to visit?

     

    Have a wonderful long weekend, Katie!! That sounds so wonderful!!

    #307121

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    Hi Sofia, thanks for sharing. I’m not sure what school level you are in, but your story resonated with me back when I was in high school, and sometimes college, but not nearly as much as high school.  So, sometimes in my case, I would create the version of the guy I wanted and “needed” him to be for myself to make me feel wanted and “sexy” if I had to say. It wasn’t even like in real life he was that amazing. I found him very attractive, like with everything he did or the way his voice sounded, or the way his hair looked, etc… silly, simple things that I totally blew out of proportion to make myself feel better about myself, I suppose. In high school I felt like, looking back, my self esteem was lower than where it should have been. I really wanted and “needed” to feel noticed by guys I was crushing on. Yeah… they never crushed back on me.. but in retrospect, that is totally okay. I don’t think looking back on it as a 30 year old woman, it would have been a good match anyway. Over the years, I have come to learn that I desire a deep, meaningful relationship with a man, and to have him be able to communicate well and often. I guess that is a fairly common request and need of most women though. But still, looking back on my days of spending way too much, WAY too much time wasting time turning guys into someone I totally fantasized over and made them into the boy I wanted them to be, that is not, in reality, who they actually were in real life. When guys that I really liked and I actually spoke, it was dull, not nearly as dreamy as I had hoped, and it just made me feel weird and disappointed initially after the interaction. But then some time would pass and I would either go back to creating the version of them I wanted, or I would recognize it was not going the direction I needed and would move on with my life. I hope in a weird way, this helps!

    #307107

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    Hi Katie, your post was so captivating!  Thank you for your words of wisdom yet again!

    and I can’t tell you just how closely this resonated with me when you said this: “and sometimes I have this sense of serenity but then in my interactions I feel like I can come off high strung, nervous, intense….I will give it some thought but then let it go. The fact that YOU know you have a sense of self, purity, beauty and love and that is where you are operating from is the most important thing I believe.”  I sometimes feel when alone, usually, that I have this air about me that is beautiful, deep, intellectual, cultured, etc… all beautiful, wonderful qualities. Then I socialize with others and I can hear myself in my words, see how my awkward body language comes off, and it all betrays my previous feelings of beauty and elegance. I come off as awkward, weird, oddball, bad at small talk. I feel so different sometimes between how I act alone, listening to beautiful music, relaxing, being at peace with myself, allowing myself to indulge in brushing my hair gently, smiling at myself in the mirror, giving myself a foot rub, folding the bedsheets gently and slowly, taking time to clean the kitchen so I can look at it and be proud of my work, and I feel good, I feel like I have accomplished stuff and beautified my space, my sanctuary. However, in social settings, I feel chaotic, rushed, uneasy, generally just waiting to get out of wherever I am. This is not always the case, but sometimes it’s like, I can’t wait to get out of here and be home, or I can’t wait to get out of here and take a drive up north and be in the wilderness and enjoy quiet. I need to focus more on being present, I realize that. It is so hard. I think a lot of us spend copious amounts of time in the past and future and it is disturbing just how much time that adds up to. I feel like in our society it really pushes for “TGIF” and rushing through the entire week and then getting depressed all over again on Sunday because the daunting thought of Monday bleeds into Sunday and “ruins” it. It’s such a toxic mindset. Unfortunately, since I am a part of our society, I have been subjected to this way of thinking for so long, that it has pervaded my way of thinking, and I get that we do have ultimate control of our thoughts, at all times. I really like what you said “I love these points you made: “I do really think there’s truth in the practice of noticing your thoughts, and almost visualizing them floating by but choosing not to identify with them. Just recognizing they’re there, almost in an amused and interested sort of way and then watching them float off…this way we can acknowledge a thought (without shoving it down only for it to return later) without putting too much feeling into it.”  I too have read this in various books and online before, and it seems like it would be so great to be able to become a master of our thoughts, our minds. So that we can shift focus on what truly matters and what is just a bunch of harmful noise, useless deterrents.

    I also like what you said “I read your other thread and know you’re an only child…me too! I do think sometimes that might make us feel a little more awkward in social interactions…just from the solitude we had as kids. I’ll also say that sometimes I do feel like an oddball because I don’t have that kind of (sibling) relationship that a lot of people have.”  I feel a sense of weirdness somehow that I am an only child. We can’t help it that we are, but it still injects this looming feeling of missing out or something. Feeling lonely, especially now that getting older means that I will not have any nieces, nephews, sisters and brothers and their in-laws to spend time with. I always had to rely on my childhood neighborhood friends if I wanted people to hang out with. In school, I always was fortunate to have a good group of friends. However, if I had a bad day at school and I needed to go home and vent/decompress/cry, I had to do so alone, always, and since it wasn’t “cool” to do this in front of parents, it was done alone. I can’t help but feel like this played an important yet potentially damaging role in my life. It was the only way I knew how to cope. Crying into a pillow or staring at the wall trying to find an imaginary solution to feel better. It was really horrible. Of course, I had stuff that I could do to pass my time, and of course, go out and drive somewhere, work, nature walks, etc. But still, in those quiet, never ending hours of time spent by myself wondering if anyone cared or if I would spend forever feeling like this, I feel like that definitely shaped me into the person I am today. But we’re here now & everything must happen for a reason. I have air in my lungs, I have everything I need to live a beautiful, comfortable life. I always have. It is just realizing a change of attitude needs to take place, not a change of opportunities. There are always opportunities to be had, I just need to be in a different mindset to notice them, and seize the moment to act on it.  I paraphrased that idea from “Love Does” by Bob Goff. He is such a cool guy. (Youtube) Also, I read: <b>”</b>Change happens when we see how what we have been doing no longer makes sense.” I think I procured this quote off another lovely article here on TB. It holds such truth to me. It is so wise. Finally, my other favorite quote I read here in my travels is: “No one gets to the end of his or her life and thinks, “I wish I stayed angry longer.”  I think if I had to say, this particular quote has helped me the most recently. Like, is this really something worth getting annoyed/mad over? Bringing it up in a hurtful way? Is this truly important? Am I the problem in this situation? Am I the one that needs to take a step back in this particular instance?

    No, I have not read Brene Brown’s books yet but now that you brought my attention to them I will check them out! What makes them such great reads for you, in your opinion?

    Thanks for reading my novel Katie!!

     

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    #307063

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    Thanks Katie! I like what you said about “I think with the way our society is so “connected” these days, it’s easy to forget the beauty (and necessity!) of silence. We don’t always have to be talking/listening to still be connected to one another…just with kindness, a mutual understanding that we are all on this journey together, albeit each with our own paths and experiences.”

    and “I think as we become more mindful, we are more conscious of the words we are putting out there…they really do make an impact, as do the words from others that we take in.”

    I find these to be so beautifully true.. and it’s amazing how uncomfortable people get with silence and gaps in conversation. Even with myself, I “feel” like I am being awkward or I “feel” uncomfortable when I am silent in an instance where I “feel” like I should be talking, contributing. I feel like over the years in many instances it has made me less “popular.” Not that that is a good or bad thing, but just a “thing” nevertheless. People crave small talk, laughter (which I totally get, me too), sharing common ground, spilling dirty little details, confiding in one another, feeling safe and the ability to be honest with each other. I get it. It just has never come easily to me. I struggle with continued small talk past a  few sentences. I wish I were funnier. I love laughter, how it makes me feel, how I feel when I see others laughing, the connection made when I can make other people laugh at something.  I always feel so tired all the time. I don’t like it. I feel prickly and moody when underneath I know there is sense of self, purity, beauty, and love. However, the “ego” part of me I guess, is moody, prickly, tired, annoyed at trivial things not worth getting annoyed at. It undermines my ability to devote more of myself to a higher purpose sometimes, I guess I could say. I devote too much of my energy sometimes to complaining, focusing on the negative, etc… even though I actively try to do seek the opposite. I think perhaps that in the effort of recognizing what I focus on sometimes (the negative), and actively pursuing the opposite in hopes of improving the quality of my life (positivity, love, gentleness, warmth), it reinforces in my mind to focus even more on finding the negative because my mind realizes “hey, stop avoiding this, I know you want to find the negative… so I’m going to find other stuff you can focus on to be negative since you’re trying to distract me by trying so hard to be positive.” I’m not sure if that is accurate and I’m no psychologist.. it’s just stuff I have come across in my various readings, experience, TedTalks, etc. Do you have a few close friends or many acquaintances, Katie? I have struggled with creating friendships my whole life. I have had a few very dear friendships in the past when I was a bit younger. They tapered away mostly when college started. I had a few friends in college but we all amicably went our separate ways just due to life. No particular reason, just fell out of contact. It makes me feel lost sometimes. I wish I had a warm circle of friends to laugh with and spend quality time with. I feel like this would help me feel rejuvenated and hopefully not drained. I am planning to see a psych in a few months to discuss various topics that I must need to get off my chest and unpack in front of a professional, even though I previously had some reservations about seeing such a person. Thank you!

    #307039

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    Hi Katie, thank you for replying! I really like how you said this: “It’s not a feeling of anxiety, just a realization that a lot of people I’m around on a daily basis I don’t have much in common with so it can be kind of disappointing.” I feel misplaced sometimes. I realize I contribute to societal nonsense sometimes by giving social media my attention and willingly being okay with myself knowing that I am wasting my own time, when I could be utilizing it in much more wholesome, helpful ways for myself. However, I also enjoy the deeper, “old soul” things in life, too.. These subjects are hard to work into every day conversation sometimes. However, it totally can be done, and it is interesting because a surprising amount of people can talk about such subjects if I open up about them first. But I kind of wish and need others to open up about fascinating, unique subjects first, to refresh my idea that there is grounded wisdom still in our society. That we actually care about meaningful stuff besides a caramel chai macchiato whatever or when we are getting our nail tips touched up.. Or when we are taking the car in for repairs. These various examples do have their place, a certain validity, but do not possess any real depth to life or feeling passionately, deeply, meaningfully. I hope that makes sense. I don’t always expect interactions like this. I just would prefer it sometimes. I think there is good energy to be gained from such a deep exchange. To me, it holds so much more depth than small talk, gossip, etc. I sometimes wonder how people can laugh so easily at stuff that I hardly consider funny at all. But I hurt myself in a way by faking a laugh just to fit in I guess. It isn’t that funny to me, and it makes me feel sad. I realize I painted a bit of a bleak picture here, which is not my intention. I just wish people craved more depth, more happiness, more vivacity and the willingness to truly be generous, kind, loving, and gentle. Instead we gossip, interrupt, only want to talk and not truly listen, and rush around like our lives depend on it.. because we are so caught up in the whirlwind of nonsense that we really do think our lives depend on it. Such a dumb rat race that doesn’t need to be that way. We as a society need a lot of help reframing what it looks like to really live deeply and meaningfully, and to do stuff that actually brings us actual happiness. But first, we need to figure out what actually brings us true happiness. Do a lot of us truly know what that looks like? Probably not. Over the years, I have certainly lost that ability- sometimes I really kind of feel at a loss regarding what I really, truly need to feel happy. I think all this stuff brims over and causes such a conflict within me and a distaste of interacting with others sometimes. I just don’t want to engage in such petty things or feel the need to contribute to such nonsense and use valuable energy trying to do so. Maybe it’s my soul’s way of telling me that I don’t have to, that ultimately I always have my permission to do what I need to and want to, and to honor myself and preserve my energy and sanity. Thanks for listening Katie!!

    #306655

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    Hi Peggy, I love how you said the following: “There is little point in regretting our choices – we don’t know what would have happened if we had made a different choice.  Ultimately, the path we go down through our choices is a path of learning.  Always.  The more difficult the path, the more opportunity there is to learn.  Following the ‘path of least resistance’ is going with the flow, flowing with life.  Air flows through us, water flows through us, fire flows through us, earth flows through us.  “Air my body, fire my spirit, earth my body, water my blood.”  I sometimes use this as a way of bringing me back into balance, chanting it to myself when I’m out walking.”

    However, in regards to You wrote to Mark that you cry when you talk about your children yet in an earlier post you said you have no children.  Also, are you distant from your fiancé?” I am not sure I said I cry when I talk about my children, since I don’t have children… I’m not sure about that, so I am not sure how to answer it accordingly. Also, my fiancé and I have a loving relationship. He is a wonderful man.

    I hope that clears some things up, and thank you again for your wisdom!

    #306445

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    Dear Mark,

    Thank you for replying to me. I like how you worded the following:

    “You also ask what are some of things that make me truly happy with that feeling of “Wow.” I am still working to allow that in me. I perceive or judge myself by having a damped down sense of excitement and joy. My emotional range is not as wide as I would like. I don’t get really angry or really happy. When I feel pain, I now want to really feel it and sit with it to notice and be with it, to fully get into it. I do so partly because I want to feel the opposite as well, i.e. to really feel happiness and joy for unless I feel deeply with either emotion then I cannot really feel well.

    I pay attention when I cry. I like when I cry for I believe that taps what is important and deep for me. I cry when I talk about my children. I pay attention when I laugh as well.

    Insofar as activities that bring me that “Wow” feeling, I love dancing to live music with wild abandon with others who are enjoying themselves as well. I know that whatever I do, it is the company I keep that makes the activity fun and enjoyable. I can do something really great but without someone to share the experience with, it does not shine as bright for me.”

    That insight you provided talking about deep emotions was really interesting to me. It reminded me of yin and yang and its principle of light and dark, opposites, and how to truly appreciate something, you need to be aware and intimate with its polar opposite.. otherwise you cannot have a true, deep appreciation as there is nothing starkly opposite to compare it to, and it is not unique.

    I too feel the same about how I prefer to share experiences and make memories with others. I wish I could more deeply enjoy traveling and truly enjoying food,nature walks, etc.. on my own, but I usually get stuck in the mindset that the experience will always be made better, more enriched, if it were to be shared with someone else (significant other).

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    #306443

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    Dear Peggy, thank you for your beautiful words. Life is such a journey, isn’t it! It is interesting to see and think about all the different choices we have available to us at all times. It is interesting to think about how many different paths we can go down based on those choices, too. Most of which are really quite simple, I’d say. Of course there are hard choices, no doubt. But the simple ones can also make way for a series of choice after choice, etc, which leads us in a direction all its own, which could have looked totally different had we made one or two different choices earlier in the road. Your healing work sounds wonderful and so therapeutic. I think a lot of people need healing work like that. To be cleansed and helped in that way. A lot of times we all reach for the advil, tylenol, xanax, whatever it is, and that is just so…. toxic and western in my opinion. Don’t get me wrong, I am no stranger to reaching for advil when I have a headache, or taking medicine.. but I do have an appreciation for ancient wisdom and healing practices that I wish our culture would embrace more than it does.

    #306441

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    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for taking the time to provide such a detailed breakdown of each of those points. It is refreshing to receive wisdom from a fresh pair of eyes and ears from someone who is wise, patient, kind, willing to listen intently. Can you provide me with advice to move past these childhood hurts? I will be seeing a psychiatrist in a few months. But I do believe TB is a truly great place to also receive very useful and applicable wisdom, and I thank you for all the wisdom you have provided me thus far. It really shifted my perspective into different angles than I had previously looked to delve into regarding my past. I didn’t realize it was so bad, even though of course we sometimes forget how much hurt and sadness we’ve endured in life.

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