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  • #79989
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    “Does compassion/empathy for him can be expressed just by being polite, understanding his suffering but protecting myself from him by don’t letting him to get close to me (I must visit my grandmother daily)?”

    In my case with my mother, that is exactly how I apply my “compassion”. I am polite and listen to her, but only in so much as I can maintain my own protective boundary. When I find this is being crossed by her, or I am no longer able to withstand her behavior or words, I simply speak with someone else if there is another person in the room or leave/end the conversation politely if we are alone. I don’t know your uncle so I am not sure whether this would work in your case. But, sometimes , as in my case (so far), it is possible to deal “compassionately”, with someone who causes you pain whilst protecting your boundaries. In other cases, however, it will not be (as is the case with my abusive ex). We all find our own way and no two ways are the same, nor one more right than the other.

    The important thing to remember in all of this is that the fact you are searching for the answer to this important question, already shows you are indeed a “compassionate” person.

    #79988
    J2BSA
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    Try and be gentle and kind with yourself right now 🙂 Allow yourself to feel the sadness and grieve the loss.

    When you feel up to it, you might like to try and properly process the relationship you had and the ending. I found writing it all down very helpful in my case (keeping a journal). I can relate to what you said : “I am sad that he may never be the person I fell in love with”. I felt the same initially. In my case, once I was ready to be open and honest about the relationship (after the pain lessened a bit), I started to write about what worked and what didn’t with my ex and myself, I saw that I fell in love with an idea I had of my ex. The real man was always there, but I chose to ignore/deal with it. In fact, I believe I chose him based on my own issues (a troubled relationship with a narcissistic mother). I decided to focus on understanding “me” rather than “him”- this can be VERY hard, but is really where the truth lies and is really worth it. Instead of asking “why did he treat me like that?” , I turned the question to “Why did I put up with that?”, “Of what was I afraid, when I didn’t stand up for myself when he was disrespectful or aggressive?”, “What does that say about my personal boundaries?”, etc. I eventually started moving towards questions like “What is unacceptable to me in a relationship?”, “How do I expect to be treated?”, “How would I expect myself to treat to my romantic partner”. I have found this the most difficult but most empowering process. I believe the fact I chose this path in my recovery from the relationship, will stand to me as i move forward in my life.

    I’m not saying my way is the only, nor indeed the best, way for recovery and healing, but I wanted to share my experience with you.

    The only advice I can give with 100% certainty is to be gentle with yourself right now. You have to treat yourself as you would your best friend if he/she was going through this right now. The rest will come in its own time 🙂

    #79936
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    Oh and for what it’s worth, I cried A LOT , and I am glad I did. Crying is a necessary part of the grieving and healing process.

    Let it out my dear.

    #79935
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    Hi El,
    I’m sorry to hear about the painful ending of your relationship. I don’t think my response will answer all your questions but I wanted to share my experience as I was in a similar situation to you six months ago, after ending a 4 year emotionally abusive relationship. I,like you, wanted to share my thoughts and feelings with my ex- tell him where he is going wrong, that I was working things out for myself and happy to move on, etc. The truth (for ME) was that this desire was, unfortunately, coming from a place of hurt and anger, i.e. “I’ll show him” attitude. We engaged in “back-and-forth” emails/calls for 5 months. What I learned: 1. Unless it comes from a true place of self-healing and/or compassion or forgiveness, the communication will only ever cause you further pain; 2. I was looking for him to validate my feelings and my need for accountability for the bad treatment I received (again causing me further pain); 3. I don’t need my-ex to validate my feelings or experience of our relationship and ending (I can and should do that myself); 4. Contrary to what I believed at the time, stopping communication has helped my closure tremendously; 5. Deciding to focus on me- my thoughts, feelings, practicing self-love and self-care (doing the things I love, and being with the people I love) has played a major role in my healing process; and 6. I now better understand myself, my wants and needs (both in and outside a relationship), and that has brought me more relief/joy/freedom than any of those messages/emails ever did. I don’t know your specific circumstances and these will most certainly be different from mine, but I just wanted to share my experience.

    Sending you lots of positive healing energy

    #79934
    J2BSA
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    Hi Dave,
    Great question and one I am struggling with myself at this moment. At the beginning of 2015, I ended a 4 year relationship which involved continuous and increasing levels of emotional abuse and displays of aggression. I am committed to a process of healing and growth- focusing on me and building self-love, self-esteem, and better personal boundaries. I decided to go complete no contact with my ex, following advice from friends/family, and my therapist. This has helped me a lot. However, I struggle with this question of having compassion for him (my-ex). In my case, I believe having compassion for him inside of me- my thoughts and feelings about him and why he treated me as he did- is enough. I don’t need to share that with him directly, as unfortunately, he has not changed and his path is not aligned to my path, and he will only hurt me further. I realise this situation is very particular and probably doesn’t answer your question, in cases where one must be in regular contact with the person who causes one hurt. But, in the spirit of this great forum, I wanted to share my experience and belief with respect to the “internal” process – holding that person in a place of compassion within your mind and heart. I also have a VERY troubled relationship with my mother who we (sibblings) believe is narcissistic. This case is much more complicated, as I cannot (and I guess do not want) avoid continuing contact, some form of relationship with her. I still struggle to feel compassion for her when she resorts to her pain-inducing behaviors, but I find the following helps: 1. Limit my contact with her; 2. Before I meet/speak with her, talk to myself and kindly remind myself I cannot (nor should I) try to change her (she is the way she is) and prepare myself mentally for our encounter so I can cope with whatever she throws/delves out; 3. During the encounter, I try and stay very aware of my feelings when with her (sensations I feel, my breathing etc) and separate myself from them (like an outside observer), and if I struggle to do this I simply remind myself again she has no control over her behaviour and I should not take it personally. 4. After the encounter- I do not allow myself to dwell on any negativity from the encounter OR release/replace it with positive feelings, by doing something I love doing (photo-walk, hill-walking, meet a good friend, or sibbling. I struggle with all of this still, but I find more and more I manage to retain a feeling of compassion for her, whilst maintaining my own personal boundaries. I think this is the important part to all of this. Having compassion does not mean you lay down your protective boundaries. It just means you no longer hold resentful or negative feelings towards the person, give them some of your time (if that is what YOU want to do), and realise you have control over how you allow or don’t allow their behaviour/words/actions to affect you. This is my belief and approach to your question and I have taken a VERY LONG time to get here but I feel free , empowered and happy.

    #74760
    J2BSA
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    I was hesitant as to whether update this post but thought it may help someone else who is going through a similar situation.

    I finally started to accept I had to try and “let go” and that I would probably never obtain answers to the many questions I had regarding what went wrong in our relationship and what part of this was my responsibility. Last week I was finally told by a close friend that my ex-boyfriend had cheated on me , at least once, but probably a lot more. One of the girls he even invited on a weekend away together as a group before the end of last year. I have been trying to deal with a wave of mixed emotions: anger, humiliation, sadness, but, the feeling that has risen above all of this is one of relief. Why relief? During the 4 years of our relationship, but particularly in the final 2 years, my ex-boyfriend spent most of the time reminding me I was a jealous and mistrusting girl and he was the victim of my “paranoia”- he could do nothing. The relief comes to me now, as I know, at least in some small part, I am not “completely” as he described me.

    However, this “relief” also worries me somewhat. Is this once again my need for external validation of my instincts and my feelings? Is this self-doubt and insecurity what probably drew him to me, kept me in a relationship that I knew “deep down” was not right for anyone let alone me, and ultimately has me still wondering , how much of my mistrust/jealousy was a natural response to his behaviour towards me and how much was , as he described, a product of my natural psychological make-up?

    Was my hesitancy to write this update because I fear I am incapable of trusting my own ability to self-validate my feelings and beliefs?

    #74263
    J2BSA
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    Thanks so much for the wise and caring words Waterfalls. I am growing stronger day by day and beginning to trust myself and my intuition more and more again. As you say…. I am using this “pause” to think about me and how I want to treat others and to be treated. It is only the beginning, but I feel stronger each day. Thanks for sharing the book recommendation. I will certainly check it out. Thanks once again for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate it.

    #74149
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    Thanks Inky and Will. Your advice really helps and I know you are both right. I should probably spend more time building up my ability to “let go” and continue to focus on working on myself and my issues, than trying to seek some sort of validation of what “I” think went wrong. This is what I will do.
    Wishing you both lots of peace and love.

    #74097
    J2BSA
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    Thanks Jodi, Will and Inky.

    I really appreciate the time each of you took to read my story and to share your wisdom. It feels good.

    I did feel controlled a lot in the relationship so Inky, your words really resonated with me, and also Will, what you say about a partner helping one work through one’s issues seems nice and I hope I find someone capable of that in the future. But, for now, I want to be alone so I can focus on helping myself and trying to make the best of what happened in terms of personal growth and learning.

    I guess if I am being honest, I want accountability for what happened. I would love if I could have absolute clarity on what part of what went wrong was his and what was mine. Which came first. However, I guess I need to let go of that, right? How does one do that?

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