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January 3, 2023 at 10:25 am #413135
Lost1Flow
ParticipantTee and Anita, thank you both so much for all your support and wise words. Certainly will be following this advice and exploring these topics further. Wishing you both peace and happiness 🙂
January 2, 2023 at 8:07 am #413073Lost1Flow
ParticipantHi Anita,
That is a very difficult and painful realization you went through. I am very sorry you had to experience that.
Again, I’m so thankful for this forum, as it helps so much to hear others situations and discover new ways of overcoming deeply rooted and buried challenges. I think perhaps deep down I’ve realized some of these things as well, but denied/refused to accept the truths because they are so hard to accept. So many therapist also say, ‘we cannot blame our parents for everything’ and I’ve taken that probably too literally. Sometimes we can. and should, to move on and forward.
Thank you again for the perspective.
January 2, 2023 at 4:19 am #413067Lost1Flow
ParticipantHi Tee, it’s like you’re reading my mind…
You feel responsible for her well-being, while she refuses to take responsibility for it. 100%
Even though she is telling you she wants you to have a life of your own, she doesn’t really mean it, because in her mind, it would mean like being abandoned and helpless and alone. …you don’t want to cause harm to your mother. You feel trapped, because you really believe that she won’t make it without you.
Yes, yes and yes! She was never in a happy marriage with my father. It wasn’t an actual arranged marriage, but pretty close. So yes, I was her everything emotionally and friendship-wise in place of him. She made excuse after excuse why she couldn’t leave him, but never actually did. So yes, there was definitely a lot of neediness even prior to my brother’s death (he was 15, I was 13).
Anita, to your point, years ago I tried talking to her about all this dysfunction in our relationship, and she got horribly defensive, called me all horrible things, and we got into such a wicked fight, I never brought it up again. I just tried to slowly detach more, but the same patterns always crept back in. Then when all the caregiving started, it just got that much worse.
January 1, 2023 at 3:30 pm #413029Lost1Flow
ParticipantHow I just wish there was someone else. She has no siblings, and as I mentioned, my brother passed away. She got very clingy after his death, and I was mourning so much at the time too (we were very close and only two years apart), I fell into the codependent relationship too. If I had only known the beast it would morph into…
January 1, 2023 at 3:10 pm #413026Lost1Flow
ParticipantI definitely agree with you. It is selfish, and it’s just me feeling badly because she has no one else to lean on. I’ve tried encouraging her to make new friends, but she doesn’t put in any real effort. Now I can understand she doesn’t have the time, but in the past, it was easier to just rely on me. I know it’s really a bad corner I’ve painted myself into lol
January 1, 2023 at 11:50 am #413003Lost1Flow
ParticipantThank you, going to try to start the year on a positive note!
It was complicated with him. We had problems, but we were both very young. She always thought I deserved someone who “treated me better”, but I honestly was happy enough. I knew no relationship was perfect. I think she was jealous that he was taking away my time from her, which I only really realized when I was away from it.
She has been a good mother me, though. I’m painting a terribly one-sided picture. I know she made sacrifices for me growing up. But it’s definitely a case of the lost/lives for her as well.
January 1, 2023 at 4:18 am #412986Lost1Flow
ParticipantThank you, and Happy New Year! May it be filled with endless positive possibilities for you and for all 🙂
December 31, 2022 at 1:03 pm #412945Lost1Flow
ParticipantThank you, Anita. You’ve given me a lot to think about and some hope 🙂 Very thankful!
December 31, 2022 at 11:31 am #412933Lost1Flow
ParticipantHi Anita,
Kudos to your bravery in making such a big move and change! That is inspiring.
You are very right that perhaps all of this effort and lost/lives is in vain if the situation really is not improved with my presence anyway. I feel it must be helping in some way being a partial caregiver than not at all though… but at what cost, as you pointed out? I really wish there was some other alternative I have not thought of.
In terms of health, my largest issue is chronic pain, which often leads to chronic fatigue due to lost sleep/insomnia. I’ve tried meditation, therapy, journaling, exercise, yoga, holistic meds, conventional meds. I really thought some of the former would also help open my mind to alternative solutions here.
What processes/tools did you use to work through your personal challenges with moving and dealing with guilt? Perhaps there is something else I haven’t tried…
Thank you 🙂
December 31, 2022 at 9:57 am #412917Lost1Flow
ParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for your reply. I’m so sorry you’ve dealt with so much with your mom as well. How did you move forward? I’d so appreciate hearing how someone else dealt with the G, so well put!!
I’m not sure I understand your question? “Who is the Winner”? I don’t see anyone as a winner in my current situation. Am I just feeling sorry for myself, is that the underlying suggestion? I’m still ahead as the winner because I have my youth? I know the elders need my support. I am trying best I can. It’s just been years already and who knows how much longer. It’s just so hard to see my peers all living a very different existence, and as much as I try to stop comparing, it’s very hard. I didn’t mention before I have a lot of health problems, which maybe would be limiting my full potential of life anyway.
Thank you again for your reply.
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