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MimiParticipant
Gary,
I have been trying to do some of these things lately.
One that really struck me was not just:
Being in the Present Moment
BUT THIS:
Being the Present Moment
It sort of jumped out at me when I read it. Touched me.
I’m also trying to get in touch with what “flow” feels like and how to be more like that.
Gratitude I do feel (and express) daily, but need to focus on it even more, and not so much my problems.
Thank you. I liked your post and will be interested to follow this thread as it unfolds.
Christine
May 28, 2016 at 5:15 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #105863MimiParticipantDear Anita,
You wrote:
“Maybe it’s time to stop trying to fix yourself. Maybe you are fine as you are…
…I say to myself: it is okay. I am anxious. It’s okay to feel this. What I otherwise did my whole life is feel anxious about feeling anxious and so I got double anxious and then triple anxious…
…I had OCD for decades…”
Me, too. OCD things since I was a kid. It’s better now, but obviously not gone. Also, anxious about being anxious, and worrying about fixing it.
You’re right about how I should stop trying to fix myself. Or if I do need to fix some things, I’m realizing that it needs to be a more gentle change, one that doesn’t increase my anxiety. All of the things I tried have always failed anyway, so I’m really trying to find a new way.
Actually, thinking about trying to STOP fixing myself seems to promote anxiety, too, because I think, “What, I’m supposed to be like THIS?!” Ha ha. I mean, when you feel like a mess, the idea of accepting it is frightening, but I guess it’s also liberating, in a way.
Wow, this stuff seems complicated to my confused mind, but I know that if I can wrap my head around it, it will really make my life more SIMPLE, like I want it to be.
I do think I understand what you are saying, and I will try to work on following your suggestions.
Thank you,
Christine
May 28, 2016 at 5:07 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #105862MimiParticipantRichard,
You said:
“Creativity comes from a calm mind not a busy mind – there is no problem to solve.”
Yes, I’ve read that (it’s sort of what Molly wrote on one of her Buddha Doodles), and I guess sometimes it’s true, but I also have huge bursts of creative ideas when I’m really hyper. I mean, good ideas that I’m writing down quickly. Maybe I will still have that when I’m more calm, but I’m not sure.
I guess I will see what happens when I work on meditation and other things to be calm. I will find out if the creativity is more or less at that point.
Mimi/Christine
MimiParticipantObviously, I’m the type of person who gets easily overwhelmed, which is why it takes me so long to respond to things. I will try now, though, to respond a bit to what people have suggested.
First of all, thank you to everyone for taking the time to respond to my problem. I really do appreciate it. I know that everyone nowadays is so busy, so it takes special people to care about others and try to help. Really, I mean that. It’s amazing the caring and support that is on this message board, and the people who help in such a loving way should feel good about that, for sure.
Inky, it’s funny that you mentioned the Flylady site and said “don’t get overwhelmed,” because that’s exactly how I’ve felt the few times that I tried to go to that site through the years. I haven’t checked it out recently. Maybe it’s better now. It’s been a while since I’ve looked at it. I do tend to get overwhelmed so easily. Yesterday I went through one box and it was almost all notes I wrote, and it took me all afternoon and made me feel so much worse. It’s really hard. I actually thought when I started that I would feel better having accomplished it, but it made me more aware of my craziness, so I felt worse. Still, I know it must be done. Maybe I will do it in smaller doses, so it’s not so intense.
Marliv, you’re right about how your mind can understand the logic of inspiring quotes, but it’s hard to get in line with the thinking. I have printed quotes up all over the house. On my better days, they help me, but other times I just can’t see straight and they mean nothing. I do agree that I need to work on meditation, visualization, some prayer, etc. You are also right about toxic people, gradual change, doing things with joy, and more. Thank you.
Gary, thank you for your advice, too. I only had a minute to glance at your litany page (will look at it more later). It’s deeper and worded in a fancier way than the things I wrote for myself the other day, but I do think that your mention earlier of having a “litany” must be what inspired me the other morning. I wrote some positive ways that I want to look at things, and I’m going to type and print them and put them on a clipboard to read every day. I do know that when I was writing them, I was really feeling better, because they applied so directly to me (of course, having come from my brain) and they seem to be the better part of my thinking (when I’m thinking in the “right” way). Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Thank you everyone for all of this advice. I will save, read, and re-read things later, to keep myself thinking of where I want to go and how I want to be.
MimiParticipantPlainsong, I didn’t have time to read everyone’s responses to your dilemma, but I did read all of your posts. I will read more of what others have said when I get some time, but for now I just want to respond to all of what you said and simply say:
I do understand that you are in pain and are very down on yourself and are directing a lot of your focus towards that man and how happy he is, but he just doesn’t matter.
What matters is you. I hope that you will seek out any kind of therapist, support group, or anything to help you with your pain.
Please know that just because he is supposedly so very happy with his wife, it doesn’t mean that you are worthless, are less, or anything. The right person for you is the right person for you. Like my husband says when I’m apologizing for my many flaws (not being perfect enough) – he says “you are perfect for me.” He has put up with me for 30 years, and trust me, that isn’t easy. But he loves me for the person that I am, for all of the good things he sees in me. That is what you can find someday, when you feel and see the good inside yourself.
Your ex might not be as happy as he says, anyway. Many people who feel the need to constantly show how happy and perfect things are are just full of it. They can be compensating for their own insecurities and fear and trying to hide the fact that things just aren’t so great. And even if he is truly happy, it just doesn’t matter. He doesn’t matter. You matter.
I know your pain is intense right now, but just try to hang on. Figure out things – big or small – that make you happy, and do them. Keep talking it out, get help if you want to, exercise, meditate, all of those good things. In time, it will get better.
If you get seriously bad and wanting to harm yourself, definitely seek immediate help. Don’t waste your whole life because of this man. One day, you will look back and say, “What was I thinking, giving him so much power? He soooo wasn’t worth it!”
May 20, 2016 at 5:16 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #105214MimiParticipantDear Anita,
I’m sorry for taking so long to respond. I’ve been trying to get back here every day, but keep running out of time and energy.
Thank you so much for your caring and understanding about my guilt regarding my sister’s death. I’m crying right now thinking about it all. You’re right that my sister probably did understand about my reaction to her dying. She was very kind and wise and would’ve surely understood, even throughout her medicated haze. She knew we all loved her so much and were freaked out about what was going on.
Like you, I had a lot of issues during my childhood. I guess some of us spend a lifetime recovering from some of that stuff.
I really can relate to what you said about exhaustion, a foggy brain, and also feeling ashamed. For me, ashamed about being depressed, anxious, and all of my other problems. Luckily, my mother is now understanding and kind (not so much when I was a child – she was a mess herself) and I’ve been blessed to have a really great husband for 30 years. Both of these people, plus my best friend, love me despite my many flaws. It’s of course me who is hard on me now.
I keep wanting to change, to “fix” myself, and I end up even more confused and anxious and overwhelmed by just wanting to be a better version of myself. I do try to acknowledge the good things about myself and love myself, but I do tend to obsess about all of my worries, my problems, my flaws, our health, etc. It is so draining, wanting to fix energy, health, sleep, and other issues and trying to figure out how to do it.
Wow, I feel like I’ve gotten way off topic, but it’s helping me to get more of an overall perspective on things.
Thank you, Anita, for all of your help and advice.
Christine
May 13, 2016 at 6:15 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #104479MimiParticipantDear Anita,
I’m sorry that you are worrying about your sister right now, and also that she has panic and anxiety, too. It’s hard to deal with that kind of anxiety and keep it in control. I’m glad, though, that her things are only pre-cancerous. It’s a good chance for her to try to keep healthier.
Thank you for your sympathy regarding my sister. She passed away at only 43 and left behind a young son (5 at the time, 8 now). First she had serious Lyme disease for years (still had it when she passed), then got a type of cancer that she suspected but they couldn’t detect until it was too late (it was in thin layers so they couldn’t see it on scans until it spread and got worse – very weird). She did have skin cancer things removed in previous years (actual cancer, not pre-cancerous), so maybe that led to the other cancers (neck, liver, and ??). Sorry, I know this is depressing, but you asked about it, so I’m answering.
It’s scary and hard, for all of us who have anxiety, to deal with anything like this. My sister was doubted by so many (not me, but others close to her) when she knew something was wrong with herself. That’s why anxiety is tough sometimes, because you say ‘is it real, or is it my anxiety?’ I know that many people with anxiety can relate to that. I think the only solution is being really in tune with your body and your mind, to see if it can tell you the truth sometimes. It’s hard to know the difference. Even my sister didn’t know for sure, because of her anxiety and her Lyme pains and things interfering with her knowing for sure.
I don’t know if I’m making sense. I’m always so tired. I didn’t even handle it well when my sister was dying, and was so scared and that made me act too distant (even when I was there with her). So, of course I have guilt about that, too.
Oh, the Xanax thing was like, I was taking it two times a day for my sleep (have to split up my sleep because of health problems that won’t let me sleep well) and during that other part of the day when the Xanax would leave my system, that’s when I would feel super-anxious. Then I read about how it leaves your body after 12 hours, so if you don’t keep the doses steady (now I keep them about 8 hours apart), you have a big drop in GABA and feel very anxious, so that’s what was happening to me. I also read about how slowly your body re-learns to make your own GABA, so you have to cut down so, so slowly, which is what I’m doing, but I can still get a bit “off” sometimes. I guess it’s just my usual anxiety coming out.
Sorry for the overly-long explanation to your questions, but I’m not good at editing.
Christine
MimiParticipantp.s.
There are also so many other things that feel so hard for me. It feels like daily life is a struggle all the time, even when no major or new problems are happening (though, trust me, we’ve had many of those in recent years, including losing several loved ones (one being my sister) and my husband having open heart surgery).
I have trouble handling personal email (just mainly two people who I love and care about, but on rare occasions some other people), clearing off the DVR, organizing myself, getting rid of so, so much clutter, etc. It all takes so much energy and sometimes I want to run away to a cave somewhere (with my husband and our cat). Not really, it would be too creepy, but you know what I mean. Life feels hard, but I feel like I’m making it harder than it needs to be.
I feel like I’m missing some important skill, some way to handle life.
I know I sound like a disaster. Sometimes I’m better than this, but not too often.
Any ideas or help?
Christine
May 6, 2016 at 5:14 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #103798MimiParticipantAnita, thank you for all of the suggestions. The big toe thing is interesting. I will try that when I feel particularly anxious and see if I can learn it.
I wish I knew some of these things while my sister was still alive. She suffered from anxiety worse than mine. Hers often went into the extreme panic type, which I’m very grateful to not have. Of course, losing my sister and several other important people, and other things we’ve gone through lately, certainly are contributing to all of my anxiety. I’m trying to focus on the positive, while missing everyone and worrying about other things. I know, everyone has problems. I just feel very weak sometimes.
It’s interesting that you mentioned the anti-anxiety medication, because I’m currently very, very slowly tapering off of Xanax. I didn’t know how harmful it could be, to me at least, until I kept having daily withdrawals during the time period each day when it left my body (I was taking it before my two daily sleeping times). I kept feeling really nuts at about the same time each day, did some research online (mostly message boards), and then found out how I needed to very carefully spread it out and then cut down very slowly in order to not feel so crazy. I’m glad to know that you’ve been able to use that separation/toe technique to help with anxiety, in a drug-free way. That’s so good!
Thank you again for all of your help!
Christine
May 4, 2016 at 5:21 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #103576MimiParticipantp.s. to Anita:
Thank you also for taking the extra time involved to go and read my other posts on the other thread. That was so nice of you to take that time to understand more fully. I really appreciate it.
Christine
May 4, 2016 at 5:15 pm in reply to: How do I get calm and think less while maintaining my creativity? #103575MimiParticipantAnita,
Thank you so much for all of your thoughts and ideas about my problem. It’s funny, I was just giving advice to someone on another thread and I feel like I’m wise (sometimes) when helping others, but not so wise when trying to help myself. I guess it’s because I’m too often trying to distract myself and not think about my anxiety and problems. Therefore, I never really work on them or fix them fully.
I like your ideas –
1 – looking at the anxiety to understand it
and
2 – skills for reducing it
I like that idea about observing the anxiety from outside of it. It’s similar to what I said to a therapist friend of mine who has a lot of troubles – I said – what would you tell a client if she was in your situation and feeling all of the stress, guilt, obligation, etc.? She said it helped her to see more clearly what she was doing to herself. I think that is similar to what you were suggesting. Sort of act as if I’m someone else giving advice to myself or else just looking at the anxiety as a separate entity. Maybe I’m interpreting it differently than how you meant it, but it still works for me either way.
Also, when you say neutral or healthy distractions, I suppose that could be like exercise, drawing, working on my writing, etc. You’re right, I tend to not devote enough time to the good things. I get through necessary chores and not much more. I have to make time for the things that either calm me (exercise, meditation) or give me a positive focus (drawing, writing).
I will print out what you wrote, so I can think about and understand it more. For some reason I often can think more clearly when reading things on paper. Wasteful, I know, but necessary for me sometimes.
Thank you so much, Anita, for your advice about this.
Christine
MimiParticipantI can understand that it’s hard to find your way out of feeling stuck when you feel like you are being pulled in so many directions.
First of all, try to schedule in some time for things to calm you, because the worry you are feeling can just really wear you out and make everything else in your life worse. Try to do some exercise and meditation (or even just deep breathing with your eyes closed) as early in the day as possible. Reducing your stress and increasing your energy will help a lot with these feelings you are having.
Secondly, try to not worry about things that probably won’t happen, like you and your husband breaking up. If you feel there is a serious issue already in your marriage, then get counseling together and work on it. Otherwise, just enjoy your time together and try to make it fun, and not all about discussing worries and problems.
Same thing with your kids. When you have time to be with them, try to be fully present. Enjoy the things they do or say. Try to have fun.
If you can keep the kids busy with their own things or when they are with a nanny, try to really focus on your studying and put aside all worries and distractions. If you try to do this with everything in your life – going with the flow, not anticipating trouble, giving attention to the person or task at hand, things will get better, I think.
I know it sounds easy to say all of this. Don’t expect to be perfect overnight. Changes and new habits take time. Just breathe, stay calm, visualize success in all areas of your life and see things as being how you want them to be (realistic goals and happiness). Visualization after calming breathing or meditation is especially effective.
Does any of this sound like something that might help you and that you think you could do?
Christine
MimiParticipantI haven’t done much baking lately (just too tired), but this site looks good:
http://chocolatecoveredkatie.com/
I mean, I get her newsletter and a lot of the recipes look good and I think a lot of them are vegan, too.
She also has some no-bake treats that I want to try making soon, because they sound easier than actually baking right now.
Hope this helps!
Christine
May 2, 2016 at 5:23 pm in reply to: How can a person stay centered and return to neutral at will? #103396MimiParticipantGary, you wrote:
“That will take awhile to write. In the meantime, if it is not too personal, and you like to share, would you say something about your need of something to help you right now?
If it applies, what are your triggers and reactions and your greatest challenges? For example,
When things don’t go the way I expect, plan or want I become disappointed, frustrated, withdrawn, angry….
When I am overlooked, ridiculed, judged by others, I become defensive, hurt, resentful….
When I cannot control circumstances or the behavior of others, I become anxious, nervous, dramatic….”
I’m actually too sleep-deprived to put things in the format that you requested, but some of my daily issues are – being pulled into the pain and turmoil of a friend who has constant troubles and sometimes my mother, too (via their emails), worrying about the health of myself and my husband, yet feeling unable to change it (trying and failing), clutter, fatigue, depression, anxiety, etc. I have many disorganized notes for books, blogging, etc. and feel too overwhelmed and tired to finish things. I’m always feeling that about a million things are on my to-do list (housework and much more). This is only part of all of the problems that I see. I know that focusing on problems only magnifies them, but my attempts at being more positive or centering (calming) myself haven’t been very successful. I get stuck over and over with trying to change, figuring out how to change, etc. I don’t even know if any of this fits with this discussion. I was just drawn to the idea that you’ve even had some success with getting centered, even though you want more ideas for how to achieve it. I feel like I need those, too.
Christine
April 29, 2016 at 6:33 pm in reply to: How can a person stay centered and return to neutral at will? #103153MimiParticipantGary, if you wouldn’t mind, could you share your litany? If it’s too personal, maybe just share the type of things it’s composed of? I’m in desperate need of something to help me right now. I’ve tried many things, like meditation, too. Their help for me has been limited.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts above, whether or not you share any more.
Christine
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