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Peter
ParticipantHi Tee
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I tend to lean on the rule of charity and stoic thinking n these matters and for the most part it serves me well. But that can make insensitive and miss when someone has been caught up in the moment and left unheard. I’m sorry that in my initial response, I didn’t acknowledge the hurt you felt.
These uncomfortable moments, while difficult, can also be opportunities for insight and growth.
From what I understand, everyone involved has come to see that the forum wasn’t the right space for that kind of sharing.
There’s something about posting one’s thoughts that makes them feel more real than keeping them to oneself. Still In healing spaces, where we are vulnerable and reflect one another and where there will inevitably be projections, misunderstandings, and moments of hurt. As you pointed out, that part of the process calls for space to respond and engage.
Maybe a deeper question is: can we find ways to honor someone’s inner process while also honoring our own, even when they seem to clash? It’s not an easy task, and I suspect each of us must find our own answer. But perhaps asking the question is enough to begin creating a space of grace, for understanding, time and healing and even forgiveness we all seek.
Thanks for being part of that process.
Peter
ParticipantI posted without seeing your comment.
I agree forgiveness is journey and perhaps a skill, the space between a place for grace.
Peter
ParticipantI will be off line for my weekend free of electronics.
I’m afraid I’ve not be clear or answered the questions well.
A thought occurred to me that when we engage in a space like Tinny Buddha, we may be seeking validation from outside ourselves. That’s not inherently wrong. Sometimes we need to feel seen, heard, and held by others. But when that validation doesn’t come, or comes in a way we didn’t expect, it can feel like a kind of betrayal. And for those of us with tender places shaped by past wounds, that moment can feel re-traumatizing.
Here I see my own bias, my own reflection of past pain, and the transformation-in-progres towards a inner resilience. Where I can still wish to be seen, without being re-traumatized when I’m not.
Here I see that bias has sometimes clouded my view. In seeking to be seen, I sometimes miss when someone else is struggling to be seen too. This, too, is part of the transformation-in-progress learning to hold space not just for my own wounds, but for others.
Peter
ParticipantHi Anita
Yes that resonates. To all seasons their is a time where each season carries its own kind of transformation.I’d like to add a nuance. I do feel that all tension is transformative, though not always positively or in ways that feel healing or safe in the moment.
I aim for inner resilience, and I’ve found that often requires holding the tension without resolution, and not escaping the pain. That can feel like retraumatization, but I don’t believe it necessarily is.
I may even argue that my past methods of trying to escape the tension, my go to, were re-tramatizing. The paradox were transformation kept me stuck, transformed but not released. A cocoon that hardened, protective, yes, but also confining. I was changed, but not yet free. That I think is the season of Fall.
I think of it as a partial transformation a shift that occurred under pressure, without integration. It may have helped me endure, but it didn’t help me evolve. Yet, even that stuckness can be a teacher. It shows me where the tension still lives, where the story hasn’t yet been told all the way through.
To me, the difference lies in intention and awareness. When we consciously choose to stay present with discomfort and not to override it, but to witness it we create the possibility for integration. It’s not about forcing healing, but allowing space for something new to emerge.
Maybe that’s the invitation, to return, gently, to that place. Not to force resolution, but to listen again. To ask: What part of me got left behind in that transformation? What still needs to be witnessed? This I believe is the possibility behind spaces like Tinny Buddha.
And when we fail and we will, and when the community fails us, and it will, may there be grace to forgive.
Peter
ParticipantMirrors in the Garden
Amin sat quietly beside Layla beneath the flowering tree. He had been tending to a small patch of soil, but his thoughts were tangled.
Amin: “Teacher, I had a dream last night. There were many people in it, some kind, some cruel. But they all felt… familiar. As if they were me.”
Layla: “That is not uncommon. In dreams, every figure may be a reflection of the dreamer’s own soul. Jung called it projection. The dream speaks in symbols, and each symbol wears your face.”
Amin: “But what about waking life? I feel the same sometimes. I meet someone, and they stir something in me, anger, admiration, fear. It’s as if they’re showing me something I didn’t know was mine.”
Layla: “Yes. Waking life is a mirror too. But it is subtler. In dreams, the mirror is curved and close. In life, it is distant and moving. Yet both reflect.”
Amin: “So when I judge someone, I may be judging a part of myself?”
Layla: “Often. And when you love someone deeply, it may be because they awaken a part of you that longs to be seen.”
Amin: “Then how do I know what is mine and what is truly theirs?”
Layla smiled and touched the soil.
Layla: “You listen. Not just to them, but to what stirs in you. The garden does not blame the wind for bending the branch. It simply bends and learns its shape.”
Amin: “So others help shape us?”
Layla: “They do. Not by force, but by reflection. We seek mirrors not to admire ourselves, but to understand ourselves. And sometimes, to forgive.”
Amin: “And what if the mirror shows something I don’t want to see?”
Layla: “Then you are close to truth. Sit with it. Ask it what it needs. Even the shadow is part of the garden.”
Amin looked out over the valley. The wind stirred the leaves. Somewhere, a child laughed.
Amin: “I think I understand. The garden is not just mine. It is made of every encounter.”
Layla: “Yes. And every encounter is a seed. Plant it wisely.”
Peter
ParticipantHi Anita
I posted without seeing your last comment. I appreciated your SOCJ as a opportunity to observe your path of healing while also concerned that it may be misunderstood.
Peter
ParticipantHi Everyone
I hesitate to comment, but I feel moved to share a perspective on Stream of Consciousness Journaling (SOCJ).
To me, SOCJ resembles dream interpretation where every figure, object, and event is a reflection of the dreamer’s inner world. Just as only the dreamer can truly understand the meaning of their dream symbols, so too is SOCJ a deeply personal process. Commenting on someone else’s SOCJ can be like waking a sleepwalker well-intentioned, but disorienting or even painful.
It also occurred to me that our waking life may not be so different. We often seek others to mirror us, to help us see ourselves more clearly. But in doing so, we sometimes forget that there is a person behind that mirror, someone with their own depth, sensitivity, and story.
I’ve written about mirroring before, and how moments of tension, when we feel offended, hurt, or our boundaries are tested can be powerful opportunities for growth. These are moments of revelation. Just as dream figures reveal aspects of the self, so too do real-life encounters, especially those that challenge or move us deeply.
Tinny Buddha is a space that encourages vulnerability. That means boundaries will be tested, and yes, sometimes we will feel hurt and misunderstood. But I believe that if we can sit with that discomfort and not rush to fix it or assign blame, we find healing. That tension, that pause, is where transformation begins. It’s part of what makes life rich and worth living.
I hope I have not oversteped
Peter
ParticipantLayla’s Last Season
Layla’s days were growing quiet.
The garden she had planted, part wild, part tended had grown into a place of peace. Children still played beneath the branches, the wind still carried stories, and the soil still held secrets.
She sat beneath the tree she had once planted with trembling hands. Now its roots ran deep, its shade wide. She looked out over her garden and smiled.
Though it was small, it was big enough.
Though it was simple, it had enough for everyone.She remembered the faces of those who had come Sami, the restless student; Mira, who planted in spirals; the old woman who wept beside the thorns. And she remembered Zahir, her teacher, who had once walked between two gardens: one walled, one open.
In the stillness, Layla heard a voice beneath the silence.
It laughed.
And in the laugh, she heard Zahir’s warm chuckle… gentle, knowing, amused by the way of life, how a garden teaches.
In that moment, something shifted. Not a thought, not a conclusion, but a realization deeper than knowing.
Zahir had never tended two gardens. It was always one.
The wall and the wind, the order and the wildness, the questions and the silence… they were not separate. They were threads in the same tapestry. Her garden, too, was part of it. Not apart, but a part.
The web of life shimmered before her, not as an idea, but as a presence. Everything connected. Everything belonging.
Tears welled in her eyes, not from sorrow, but from the sheer beauty of it. She laughed, and her laugh was not hers alone. It joined the voice beneath the silence, the eternal chuckle of her teacher, the wind in the jasmine, the song of the soil.
Layla’s cry and laugh became one.
The wind stirred the leaves. A vine reached toward the sun. A bird sang from the wall. And Layla, the gardener who had once asked what compassion and freedom was, now rested in it.
Epilogue:
Long after Layla’s footsteps faded from the soil, her garden remained. It did not grow larger, but it grew deeper. The roots of her tree reached into the memory of the valley, and the wind carried her laughter like a song remembered.
Travelers still came to feel what she had felt. They sat beneath the branches, touched the soil, and listened for the voice beneath the silence.
Some planted seeds.
Some wept beside the thorns.
Some built fences, then gently took them down.And all who came left changed, not by answers, but by presence. They learned, as Layla had, that freedom is not found in choosing between wildness and order, but in the courage to create something that holds both. That wisdom is not taught but grown. That the garden is not a place, it is a way.
And if you listen closely, in the hush between wind and leaf, you may hear a laugh… gentle, knowing….
And it welcomes you.
Peter
ParticipantThanks Alessa
I agree, we return home to know it for the first time, and sometimes returning home means knowing when to create space for onselfPeter
ParticipantLayla’s Garden
Years passed since Layla planted her seed in the land between the gardens. Travelers came and sat beneath it drawn by something they couldn’t name.
Layla had become a teacher, not in title, but by presence. She did not preach, nor did she instruct. She tended her garden, listened to the wind, and welcomed those who came with questions.
One day, a young man named Sami arrived. He was restless, full of ideas and doubts. He had studied many books and followed many paths, but none had brought him peace.
He asked Layla, as Layla once asked, “What is freedom?”
Layla smiled and handed him a seed. “Plant it,” she said.
Sami looked around. “Where?”
Layla pointed to the edge of her garden. “Anywhere you feel it belongs.”
He chose a spot near a crooked stone, cleared some weeds, and planted the seed. He watered it and sat beside it.
Over the weeks, Sami returned. He watched the seed sprout, then struggle. He built a small fence, then removed it. He tried to shape the plant, then let it grow wild. He learned to listen, not just to the plant, but to himself.
One day, he said, “I think I understand. Freedom is not a place or a rule. It’s a relationship.”
Layla eyes shone bright. “Yes. Between care and release. Between knowing and not knowing. Between the seed and the soil.”
Others came. Some planted in rows. Some scattered seeds in the wind. Some built walls, others tore them down. Layla never corrected them. She only asked, “What does your garden teach you?”
And so, the valley changed. It became a place of many gardens, some wild, some ordered, some both. People came not to escape, but to create. Not to be free from, or free to, but to be Free With.
And in the quiet of the evening, Layla would walk among them, her hands in the soil, her heart open to the wind and loved them Free.
Peter
ParticipantLayla journey continues – a question of Freedom
In the quiet valley nestled between two hills, Teacher Zahir moved between the two gardens with quiet grace. He watered, pruned, and listened. He never spoke of why he kept both, nor did he explain their purpose. Those who passed by often wondered, but few asked.
One morning, Layla, the young seeker, returned to Zahir. She bowed and asked, “Teacher Zahir, what is freedom?”
Zahir smiled and gestured toward the two gardens. “In one,” he said, “freedom is found in form. The plants are guided, protected, and shaped. They flourish because they are held.”
“In the other,” he continued, “freedom is found in wildness. The plants grow as they will, tangled and untamed. They flourish because they are free.”Layla looked from one garden to the other. “But which is true freedom?”
Zahir smiled and said, “Walk with me.”
Together they entered the walled garden where Zahir handed Layla a small spade. “Plant something,” he said.
She knelt and dug a hole. The soil was soft, the space clear. She planted a seed, watered it, and marked the spot with a stone.
“It is peaceful here,” she said.“Yes,” Zahir replied. “The walls protect. The paths guide. But tell me what cannot grow here?”
Layla looked around. “The wild things. The ones that don’t follow rules.”
Zahir nodded. “without this order, the tender things would be choked.”
They walked to the second garden. Zahir said nothing.
Layla wandered. She tripped over roots, scratched her hand on a thorn, and lost her way in a thicket. But then she found a patch of wild strawberries, sweet and unexpected. She lay in the grass and watched clouds drift.
“This place is alive,” she said.
“Yes,” Zahir replied. “It is free. But tell me, what is lost here?”
She thought. “Direction. Safety. Some things grow wild, but others are swallowed.”
That night, Layla slept between the two gardens. In her dream, she stood at a crossroads. One path was paved and lit. The other was dark and winding. She hesitated.
A voice beneath the silence whispered: “Freedom is not the path. It is the one who walks.”
She awoke before dawn and went to Zahir. “I still don’t know what freedom is,” she said.
Zahir handed her a seed and said, “Then plant again. But this time, choose your garden.”
Layla stood between the two. She looked at the seed, then at the land beyond both gardens, a patch of earth untouched.
There, she planted her seed and built a small fence, not too high. She cleared some weeds but left the wildflowers. She watered it, then sat back and waited.Seasons passed. The plant grew part cultivated, part wild. Birds nested in its branches. Bees came and went. It bent in the wind but did not break.
Zahir came to see. “You’ve made a third garden,” he said.
Layla smiled. “Yes. I’ve made my own.”
Freedom, Layla learned, is not found in walls or wildness alone. It is found in the wisdom to choose the courage to create, and the humility to listen to the soil, the wind, and the self.
Freedom is not escape, it is return to what matters.
Peter
ParticipantHi Alessa
As I’ve gotten older and look back on my quest to understand today I would say it may be enough to plant the seed… perhaps in both gardens.As to Sufi teaching, I am a outsider looking in. My impression is that Sofi teaching is a gentle unveiling to guide the heart reveling truth and a ‘understanding’ through lived experience. Perhaps better seen in contrast to the Zen koan, the metaphorical slap to disrupt habitual thinking and provoke direct insight into reality, “jolting” the mind awake.
Despite their differences, both aim to dissolve illusion and awaken to the truth of unity. “Zen does it by cutting through; Sufism by drawing in. One strikes the mind, the other stirs the soul”. In hindsight I see that I needed the metaphorical slap of Zen to prepare me to be drawn into heart. Zen clearing the ground, Sufism planting the garden… Contemplation letting it grow…
I’ve been thinking about continuing the story of Layla and will see if I can add something to the question of teaching.
Peter
ParticipantHi Anita – Thanks for engaging with the story. I like the thought of planting a seed in both gardens, when facing difficult life happenings. Weather is it seeds of compassion, grace, forgiveness. One we tend and one we let grow, yet both are acts of intention. Perhaps with the hope that when time comes and the wall between fade, we will know it for home.
Hi Alessa – I was introduced to symbolic language by Jung, Von Franz, Clarissa Pinkola Estés and Campbell. One thing they would all say is that we each have our own ways of relating to language and stories, and or need to find our own ways. I find your voice is like the walled garden in the story, structured, clear, and nurturing, offering a space where ideas can take root, which I find deeply grounding.
I feel we are both circling around a deep truth: that compassion and grace are not static traits, but dynamic movements. As you noted Yin and Yang complementary forces that shape how we relate to ourselves and others. Funny be we don’t have a word for that which is both Yin and Yang, the ‘thing’ that symbol points to. A limitation of Language. (Actually Jung I think calls it the ‘Self’)
I Imagine planting a seed in both gardens, the walled and the wild, is like tending both Yin and Yang. One grows through care and structure, the other through mystery and surrender. Compassion lives in both. Grace, as you noted, the courage to hold them together.
I agree that many genuinely authentic people are unaware of thier unhealthy behaviors, Jung might call thier shadow, as they haven’t been taught. As I explore the works of the Sufi, I’ve come to see that the teacher’s role is not to impart doctrine, but to help the disciple learn how to learn, to see beyond their inherited language, metaphor and the constructs they may not even realize they’re using.
My sense is that the future might be better served if we lean into this kind of teaching as it invites humility, curiosity, and transformation. It doesn’t demand belief, but encourages insight.
From what I’ve observed, this approach naturally leads to the kinds of experiences of compassion we’ve been discussing. Not compassion as a fixed idea, but as a living movement graceful, dynamic, and deeply relational.
Peter
ParticipantA story I’ve been working on over the last few days
The Boundary and the Boundlessness
In a quiet valley nestled between two mountains, there lived an old gardener named Zahir who tended two gardens.
The first garden was enclosed by a low stone wall. Inside, herbs and vegetables grew in neat rows. Zahir watered them daily, pulled weeds, and spoke to each plant by name. He knew which ones needed shade, which ones needed space, and which ones thrived with a little neglect. Visitors often came to admire the order and health of this garden.The second garden lay beyond the wall, wild and boundless. Flowers bloomed in unexpected places, vines curled around ancient trees, and the wind carried seeds from faraway lands. Zahir never planted here. He only walked, listened, and sometimes sat for hours beneath the sky. Few visited this garden, for it had no path, no gate, and no map.
Sometimes, the mist would settle over the gardens like a veil, softening every edge. And sometimes, when Zahir sat still enough, he could feel the pulse of the earth beneath him like a heartbeat, slow and steady, reminding him that life moved even when nothing seemed to change.
One day, a young traveler named Layla arrived. She had heard of Zahir’s wisdom and asked to learn the secret of compassion.
Zahir smiled and handed her two seeds. “Plant one in the walled garden,” he said, “and one in the wild.”
Layla did as she was told. The seed in the walled garden grew strong and straight, nourished by care and protected from harm. The seed in the wild garden grew crooked and luminous, touched by moonlight and mystery.
After many seasons, Layla returned, confused.
“Master Zahir,” she said, “the first seed grew because I tended it. The second grew without me. One needed boundaries, the other needed freedom. Which is compassion?”
Zahir looked at her gently. “Both,” he said. “Compassion is the gardener, not the garden. It knows when to build walls and when to walk beyond them. It speaks the language of care in many dialects.”
Layla frowned. “But the wild garden has no rules. Doesn’t compassion dissolve boundaries?”
Zahir picked up a fallen leaf and held it to the light. “This leaf,” he said, “was once part of a tree. It fell, not because the tree rejected it, but because the wind called it elsewhere. Boundaries are not prisons. They are invitations to know where you begin, so you may know where you end… and then forget both.”
Layla sat in silence, watching the wind stir both gardens.
And in that silence, she understood: Compassion is not the absence of boundaries, nor the presence of them, this not a contradiction, only different petals of the same flower.
Zahir smiled, “It is the gardener who listens to the seed, not the wind of old words that tries to shape its bloom.”
She pondered this, and three voices rose beneath the Silence.
The first came as a breeze brushing the soil, asking gently, “Which seed will rise, and which will sleep?” And the soil did not answer. It only held.
The second shimmered like mist over the wild garden, whispering, “Do not seek to name the dance. Just feel its rhythm.” And the mist did not explain. It only embraced.
The third pulsed like a heartbeat beneath her ribs, murmuring, “The path is chosen before the mind draws its map.” And the heart did not argue. It only opened.
Peter
ParticipantAnita – “Insight finally becoming embodiment” – I really like that
Alessa – A definition of grace has having courage, resonates as a truth. In recent conversations, I’ve noticed how compassion is experienced in many ways. For some, it is the gentle firmness of self-care and boundaries. For others as a dissolving of separation and the recognition of unity. Yet I don’t feel that as a contradiction, and that both can be true in the very same movement.
Here I think mind and language struggles as it wants to define, to separate, to measure. But compassion lives in the spaces between words, in the silence that holds both the boundary and the boundlessness. And as you note that takes courage that is also grace. A trust that truth can be felt even when it cannot be fully said.
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