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PeterParticipantI wasn’t sure if I was going to share the story of ‘Laylaās Descent’ as it came not from theory or belief, but from experience.
Laylaās descent does not promise healing, clarity, or light. It offers no steps, no guarantees. It is not a path to follow, but perhaps a rhythm to feel⦠if and when it comes. Some may read this and feel nothing. Some may descend and find only silence. That possibility breaks my heart because I know what it is to wait in the dark and not be met.
A part of me wonders if it might be seen as wishful thinking, magical language dressed in metaphor. But I also know this: truth and myth often walk together. And sometimes, what seems like wishful thinking is simply a language for what cannot be said any other way.
So, I offer this story as a lantern. It may not light your way. But perhaps, in a quiet moment, it will remind you that someone else has walked through the dark, and found something waiting not to fix them, but to meet them, and that as only a beginning.
Laylaās Descent
Before Layla began seeking, she trusted life deeply, but her trust was not rooted in herself. It was founded on others. Others who perhaps intentionally but more often unintentionally left a wound not easily named. At the time, she didnāt understand it as betrayal born of the pain not her own. Instead, she assumed the fault was hers: a quiet, lingering shame that she was not enough.
It wasnāt just the hurt that lingered, but the way it unraveled her sense of safety, her ability to believe in the goodness of closeness.
Her family and community had offered teachings: Forgive quickly. Trust again, have Faith. Pain is a lesson… But these words, though well-meaning, felt like stones pressed into her hands when she needed balm.
In those early years, Layla felt like a sparrow trapped in a silo, fluttering toward every crack that let in light, only to find the light too narrow to escape through.
Layla did not choose the descent. It chose her.
The betrayal had shattered something fundamental, not just her trust, but her sense of belonging. The teachings she had inherited from her family and community, once warm and guiding, now felt like distant stars, beautiful, but unreachable.
Still, she tried to hold onto them. She repeated their phrases like prayers. But they no longer fit. They were garments sewn for someone else.
And so, she fell. Not gracefully. Not willingly. But at least honestly.
The silo was not a metaphor then; it was her world. A place of cold walls and dim light. She was the sparrow, fluttering toward every crack, every sliver of brightness. But the light was cruel in its insufficiency. It showed her what might be but never offered a way through.
In time, she began to resent the light. It felt like mockery.
And that was when the descent truly began.
She stopped seeking escape. She let herself feel the despair not as failure, but as reality. She sat in the silence, in the ache, in the rawness of being alone. She did not try to rise. She did not try to heal.
She simply stayed.
What felt like years passed but who can measure such things when falling in the dark…
Yet in that staying, something shifted. The silo did not break open. It dissolved.
Not all at once, but slowly as she began to see that its walls were made of language and measurements, labels inherited but never claimed. Expectations. Roles. Definitions of strength and goodness that had never been hers.
She did not rise from the silo. She walked out of it, not by climbing upward, but inward.
There, in the soil of her own heart, she found a rhythm. Not of light only, but of light and her own dark beauty.
And that was the day she came upon Zahir, whom she watched from a distance…
The story above began long ago in silence, in sorrow, in the slow unraveling of what was once trusted and failed to bring connection. And yet, I know this story is not mine alone. I see Laylaās descent, her silence, her rhythm echo in others, often quietly, often unseen.
Most of us I suspect, at some point, for some reason, find ourselves in the silo, clinging to scraps of light, hoping they will be enough. That they might make us enough… We flutter toward cracks, mistaking glimpses for freedom. We inherit teachings, wear them like garments, and wonder why they donāt fit.
Many remain in the silo, not out of weakness, but because the scraps of light are all theyāve known. This truth breaks my heart, not in judgment, but in recognition. From that heartbreak, compassion arises, the only “word” that fits. Sometimes, it comes like a hush from within, so deep it feels like prayer, perhaps what prayer is meant to be…
The descent unfortunately cannot be taught. It can only be lived as it begins not with answers, but with ache. Layla learned to walk inward, and in doing so, she found something not given but grown, a foundation of trust and resilience within…
So, if Layla story finds you at a time of descent, may she accompany you as a friend… of dark beauty.
PeterParticipantHi James Thanks for sharing
“The eyes see, the ears hear. The mouth speaks, the nose smells. That is all.”
“Zen enriches no one… When they are gone, the ‘nothing,’ the ‘no-body’ that was there, suddenly appears. That is Zen” – Thomas Merton
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āAs long as this ābrokennessā of existence continues, there is no way out of the inner contradictions that it imposes upon us. If a man has a broken leg and continues to try to walk on it, he cannot help suffering. If desire itself is a kind of fracture, every movement of desire inevitably results in pain. But even the desire to end the pain of desire is a movement, and therefore causes pain. The desire to remain immobile is a movement. The desire to escape is a movement. The desire for Nirvana is a movement. The desire for extinction is a movement. Yet there is no way for us to be still by āimposing stillnessā on the desires. In a word, desire cannot stop itself from desiring, and it must continue to move and hence to cause pain even when it seeks liberation from itself and desires its own extinction.ā ā Thomas Merton, Zen and the Birds of Appetite
A seeming contrast between stillness and motion though Zen would avoid such measures…
Still I’ve wondered of the experience of Stillness as we sit on a rock spinning through space. Stillness in Motion…We sit on a rock spinning through space, the earth moves, the stars drift,
and yet…
the eyes see, the ears hear.
The still point is not in the world, but in the seeing.Stillness is not the absence of motion, but the absence of grasping?
PeterParticipantI think its wise, as you say silvery blue, to be discerning with whom we share our stories. And I like the rhythm expressed in letting stories go and lettings some linger… a movement from definition to unfolding presence
Thereās a Buddhist teaching known as the Parable of the Two Arrows. The first arrow is life: pain, loss, disappointment. It strikes without warning. The second arrow is the one we fire ourselves: the rumination, the retelling, the self-blame. The suffering we create in response to the pain. The stories when shared to freely, I think, to easily becomes a second arrow, not because itās false, but of our tendency toe hold such things too tightly and letting it define us too narrowly.
Iām finding Iām not a fan of the word ādefineā. The word ādefineā seems so small, yet it carries the weight of containment. To define is to say āthis is what it is, and nothing more.ā And when applied to the self, it can become a kind of trap, especially when stories, roles, or past experiences are mistaken for the whole of who we are.
Itās no surprise to me that wisdom traditions spend so much effort, or non-effort, š untying the knots that definition creates. They donāt reject the story, but they refuse to let it become a cage. In Advaita Vedanta, the phrase āTat Tvam Asiā – āThou art Thatā – is a direct challenge to the idea that the self can be defined like a word. The words at first glance might appeared to define however these words don’t try to erase the knot but embraces it, and by embracing it dissolves it.
āI am Thatā is not a definition; itās a recognition that the deepest truth of the self is not a fixed identity, but the infinite, the un-nameable, the whole. And we are that!
If I say, āI am defined by my story,ā I am speaking from the egoās need for clarity. Oh how I love clarity ā¹ But if we begin to ask, āWhat if I am That which holds the story?ā we step into the space of the Self. The story still matters, but it no longer confines. It becomes a thread in a much larger tapestry.
I liked how Fredrik Backman handled the subject in his book āMy Friendsā The story revolves around telling a young woman the story behind a painting of friends of a long-ago summer. Tears were shed but so was laughter. The story didnāt constrict or define though it could have. Instead, the characters allowed for the creating of space for the young woman Louisa to enter. Allowing the story to continue in its unfolding in her. In the story Louisa keeps looking for the happy ending only to discover she is the happy ending.
I feel that matches the Sufi wisdom where the self is seen as a mirror reflecting divine qualities. To define oneself too rigidly is to obscure the mirror. The path is not to hold onto stories, but to let them dissolve into presence.
PeterParticipantThis quote from Fredrik Backman ā My Friends – stood out to me as a kind of mirror polishing cloth.
Itās hard to tell a story, any story, but itās almost impossible if itās your own. You always start at the wrong end, always say too much or too little, always miss the most important partsā¦
Stories are complicated, memories are merciless, our brains only store a few moments from the best days of our lives, but we remember every second of the worstā¦.
Itās twenty-five years ago, āTed says, as if heās trying to convince himself that itās nothing to cry over.
Louisa sobs furiously: Not for me! I wasnāt there! For me, itās happening NOW! – Fredrik Backman ā My FriendsThere are moments when I feel like Louisa, when the past isnāt past, and the story being told is still unfolding inside me. The line between then and now blurs, and I find myself stumbling over it.
To be candid, this dissonance creates a kind of anxiety I canāt seem to shake. I wonder if Iām not seeing clearly, if my way of relating to the world is somehow flawed. Itās difficult to hold my space when the dominant rhythms around me feel so different…
This Monday, I find myself wondering if others feel this way? That the telling of our stories and the way we tell them might be a mistake? Itās so easy to doubt when we feel out of step with the world… that we are flawed somehow, or simply different…
PeterParticipantHi Silvery Blue
It makes sense to me. I think you raised something I have and suspect many feel at times when conversations have led to misunderstandings and or silence. It can feel like the only way to keep things safe is to hold back part of ourselves which leave us feeling alone and unheard. Even naming this tension feels risky as I worry it might sound like conflict.
As you wrote, the commitment to compassion and respect can feel lonely. I suspect the best we can do is hold that tension with the same compassion and respect we hope to offer others. Which I know does not resolve that ’empty feeling’…
Which leads me to something Iāve noticed about myself and wonder if others have which is judging our selves for even having those feelings. A kind of double bind where on one hand you want to honor others, so you hold back and then feel unseen and guilty for āmaking it about me.ā The very values that guide us in a way making it harder to give ourselves grace. Itās like compassion turns inward as self-criticism instead of self-kindness.
The knots we tie ourselves in. I imagine one of the reasons the Buddha laughs.
I don’t known, perhaps naming such knots and recognizing our humanness is enough for this moment?
PeterParticipantHi Alessa
Iām not sure Iād say I āstuck with itā though I wonder if its a choice. Often, Iāve wished I could stop what feels like an endless quest to answer the first question every child asks: why? Lately, though, Iāve been exploring how to balance that search by moving from the head and into the heart. Learning to rest in the rhythm of head and heart has softened, and sometimes even quieted, my restless mind.
I agree that using AI as a therapist is problematic, something AI itself will confirm.. or maybe it just told me what I wanted to hear because of how I asked the question. š
What many people donāt realize is how much the way you ask a question and the prompt you use shapes the response. Even framing the interaction as a safe space versus a brave space can significantly influence the tone and depth of the conversation. In my view, anyone using AI for meaningful dialogue should at least understand the basics of prompt design.
In my work, Iāve been exploring how AI applications are tested, and itās clear that traditional deterministic methods arenāt enough. Everything is so dynamic. Testing for bias, in particular, is one of the hardest challenges because fairness is context dependent and culturally nuanced. I would imagen that anyone doing that work needs to be aware of their own biases and perhaps even engage in deeper self-reflection such as shadow work. Ironically, at a time when bias and diversity training is being questioned, we may need that very training to use AI responsibly as the support tool it could be.
Used wisely, AI has the potential to broaden our perspectives; used unwisely, it risks trapping us in our bubbles.
PeterParticipantHi Alessa
No need to apologize the idea behind stories was to let people see what they will in them so me saying I ‘missed the mark’ kind of undermined that. Of course I didn’t notice till I clicked post, I assume because the ‘universe’ thinks that funny. I wish they brought back the window to edit. Still all good.I think, from my own experience and observations, that its near imposable not to project our fears and hopes into virtual world conversations where the only tool we have is language. As you note if such is the case, trust is important if not the key.
I hated book reports even though, or maybe because, I really struggled saying what I wanted to say. Primary because I can’t spell to save my life, which meant I limited myself to the words I would use, and even then, would lose all the points for grammar and spelling so I would always only just pass. Of course I took that a meaning I was stupid because that’s what we do when where young and don’t know better.
Today we have all these wonderful tool but even then one has to be careful. Ai will tell you what you want to hear. I use it to check my grammar and flow and then argue with it when it starts changing what I’m trying to saying and you can learn quite a bit doing that.
You wont be surprised to learn that I have filled notebooks with quotes from books I read, then spend years linking ideas from different sources. Now I can revisit those thoughts, test the connections, and really explore them. But I still need to be careful using these tools.
PeterParticipantHi Everyone
Last night, I read a passage in Fredrik Backman’s novel My Friends:
āWhen they were teenagers, the artist never wanted to show anyone anything that wasnāt finished. Art is a nakednessāyou have to be free to decide when youāre comfortable with it, and with whomā¦
Itās just that until I show a drawing to someone, itās only mine. You know? It isnāt too late to fix it. Iām not good at drawing, Iām slow. People who are good at drawing are just good⦠all the time. Their worst drawings are still great. If you saw my worst drawings, youād realize Iām actually just a fraud. But⦠before the drawing is finished, it isnāt too late. Thatās the only time I⦠like myself.āReading those words, I felt they held a truth that speaks to the question: What if my authentic self is someone I donāt like?
The unfinished drawing symbolizes a space of safety and possibility. Before itās shared, it belongs solely to the artistāunjudged, unexposed, and to her mind still redeemable. This reflects how we often feel safest in our unexpressed selves, fearing that exposure will confirm our inadequacy…
In the story, none of the friends claim to like themselves very much. Yet they are able to love each other fiercely and freely. It seems that the selves they dislike are not their true selves, but roles, labels, and measures most of which have been projected onto them. No wonder they struggle with self-acceptance when they begin to identify with these imposed definitions.
To me, this suggests that the authentic self is something beyond such measures, and instead point to a Self that loves freely… A something that can only be lived, not grasped and measured.
Hereās another quote from the book that I think speaks universally to how we come to dislike ourselves and a way out:
“The janitor had had the truth revealed to him by his mom when he was little:
āAll children are born with wings,ā she had whispered. āItās just that the world is full of people who try to tear them off. Unfortunately, they succeed with almost everyone, sooner or later. Only a few children escape. But those children? They rise up to the skies!ā
The janitor had grown up feeling lost and different, rejected at school, never normal like other children. But his mom always reminded him:
āYou feel strange because you still have your wings, rubbing beneath your skin. You think youāre alone, but there are others like you, people who stand in front of white walls and blank paper and only see magical things. One day, one of them will recognize you and call out: āYouāre one of us!āāThe novel is, I think, about the quiet ache in the fear that our authentic self might be someone we donāt like. It seems to me that our fear arises not from truth, but from confusion mistaking the roles and labels we’ve been given for who we truly are. Backmanās story reminds us that the self we often reject is not the one born free, but the one shaped by judgment and comparison.
And yet, even in that confusion, love persists. The characters love each other not because they are perfect, but because they see through the masks to something deeper. That deeper self, the one with wings still rubbing beneath the skin, is not defined by talent or success. It is the part of us that still sees magic in blank paper, from which all things might arise and return. The authentic Self being the Self that “sees” deeper.
I feel that to live from that place is to live from love that flows freely when we stop trying to fix ourselves and start recognizing the beauty that was never lost…
Than maybe the real miracle when we begin to see with those eyes is that we discover that everyone is ‘one of us’. Everyone is born with wings. Some are just harder to see, hidden beneath years of forgetting. That when we remember our own, we help others remember theirs. At that point, I wonder if the question of authenticity might not just fad away?
PeterParticipantThank you, Alessa. I appreciate your honesty and the clarity.
I agree, sometimes people are simply different, and understanding each other can be incredibly difficult.
It seems my story and metaphor of mirrors may have missed the mark, especially since our conclusions are much the same. Thatās okay, this method of expressing things is something I’m experimenting with, and Iām grateful for your feedback.
The idea I was exploring is that in every interaction, we are both a reflection and a mirror. Itās part of why understanding is so elusive. We donāt just see the other, we also shape what we see, and are shaped in return. This I feel is even more true in the virtual world we attempt to connect through. The task, as Rumi points to, is to recognize this dynamic and then gently let go of the mirror.
As you more clearly said: avoid judging, avoid labeling, and learn to find the beauty of knowing oneself.
Sometimes the mirror distorts. Sometimes it clarifies, thanks for your clarification. As you point to the invitation is to step beyond reflection altogether, and meet each other not as images, but as presence.
“And in the stillness where no mirror remains, I learn to meet the world not as a reflection, but as a breath passing through, unseen, yet wholly here.“
PeterParticipantI think your on the track worth exploring Silvery Blue.
The following is a break down of a paper from Arao and Clemens (2013) ā From Safe Spaces to Brave Spaces – which I found helpful
The idea of safe spaces and trigger warnings is relatively new, emerging alongside digital communities and campus conversations about inclusion. At their core, these concepts were meant to create environments where people, especially those from marginalized groups, could feel protected from hostility and harm. Over time, though, the meaning shifted. Safe spaces often became associated with comfort, focusing on external protection rather than helping people build inner resilience. Ironically, this sometimes made participants feel less safe to speak honestly, worried that disagreement might be seen as harm.
Trigger warnings added another layer of complexity. While they were designed to give people space to prepare for difficult content, the responsibility for managing emotional triggers often shifted almost entirely to the community. This created an expectation that environments should be completely free of discomfort. Yet when someone discovers they are easily triggered, part of the work is internal learning how to recognize and gradually disarm those triggers, rather than relying solely on external control. This balance between communal care and personal resilience being essential for growth.
Thatās why the concept of brave spaces has gained attention. Instead of promising total safety, brave spaces acknowledge that real conversations, especially about identity, justice, and difference will involve discomfort. The goal isnāt to eliminate risk but to create a culture of respect where people can speak honestly, listen deeply, and stay engaged even when itās hard. Itās about courage and care, not comfort at all costs.
Iām encouraged that many in the therapeutic and educational fields have recognized these challenges and are working to restore balance emphasizing both compassion and resilience as essential for healthy dialogue.
I like to think itās possible to create spaces that balance care with candor, where people feel supported without avoiding the hard conversations that help us grow.
PeterParticipantIām trying something different or maybe its not. It draws from Sufi and Zen traditions and my exploration on the nature of mirrors and the ways we reflect each other and ourselves in the same moment
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A young monk approached the master and said,
āMaster, my friend scatters like the wind. I cannot keep him still. How can I hold him close?ā
The master handed the monk an empty wooden box.
āCatch the wind in this,ā he said.
The monk frowned. āThat is impossible. The wind cannot be trapped.ā
The master smiled.
āThen why do you try to hold what was born to move?ā
The monk lowered his eyes. āBut if I do not hold him, will he not leave me?ā
The master opened the box and turned it upside down.
āLook,ā he said, āthe wind has already been here. It touched your face, filled your lungs, and passed on. Did it ever belong to you?ā
The monk was silent.
The master placed the empty box in his hands.
āCarry this with care,ā he said.
āIt is lighter than the wind, yet heavier than your need.āLater, in the quiet of the garden, I sat with the box in my lap. In stillness, I rested where roots go deep, and the earth hummed softly with my name. Unseen by others, I bloomed in the soil of a deeper spring. The gaze of others may pass me by, but my leaves are my own offering.
I began to notice how, in every relationship, two mirrors face each other. Perhaps one belongs to the soul longing to be seen, the other to the heart that wishes to shape. Yet in reflection, which mirror is which? Do we even notice when each polishes the other to match its own image?
This is the silent tension beneath so much human suffering: the desire to be known, and the impulse to control what the other sees, creating an endless corridor of reflections, images of images, stretching into infinity.
So it is with us. The one who feels unseen begins to adjust themselves, hoping to catch the otherās eye. The one who shapes another secretly longs for affirmation in return. Each becomes both the unseen and the shaper, trapped in a hall of mirrors where no image is real.
How can we truly see another when we do not see ourselves?
The Sufi would say: āYou polish the mirror of another, yet your own is covered in dust.ā
The Zen master would strike the mirror and ask: āWhere is your face now?ā
Both teachings point to the same truth: the more we seek ourselves in anotherās reflection,
the further we drift from our own center.And so, I turned inward.
The unseen must learn to bloom without witnesses. The shaper must learn to behold without grasping. When each tends to their own mirror, the hall of illusions collapses. Two souls meet, not as images, but as essences, not in a corridor of reflections, but in the open sky of being.Rumi whispers: āOut beyond ideas of right and wrong, there is a field. Iāll meet you there.ā
And the Zen master adds, with a smile: āBring nothing with you, not even your face.ā
I sit quietly and imagine two mirrors facing each other, seeing the endless reflections.
Then one mirror is turned inward and polished gently, not for others, but for clarity.What is my nature when no one is watching?
The mirror falls away, and with it all reflections. There is no hall, no corridor, only the vast, open field.
I have looked for myself in a mirror polished by othersā breath, a surface bright, yet blind, where smoke slipped through the cracks of reflection. I reached for formā¦. and found only shimmer.
Now I walk where mirrors cannot follow, beneath a sky too wide for frames. The fog still curls around my feet, but I breathe the open air.
I am not smoke, nor shadow⦠I am the wind, moving through the world, unbound, unseen, quietly present, witness.
PeterParticipantHi silvery blue
āI just sometimes wish that others who come into conflict with me would think of me that way, too⦠Sometimes I feel like Iām trying my best and Iām all alone.āIāve felt that same loneliness
It is funny-sad, isnāt it? In an age overflowing with tools for communication we often find ourselves more fragmented, misunderstood, and lonely than ever. More āconnectedā than any generation before us, yet deep connection feels rarer. We have endless ways to express ourselves, yet language feels more fragile, more easily misread.
We seek safe spaces, yet risk losing the courage to engage bravely… and for that I have no answer.
PeterParticipantHi Alessa
A question I often ask what myself, what if…
PeterParticipantHi Alessa
Thanks, the stories are personal, most coming for old journal entries, but I also think universal in away. Is it odd that sometimes I find that comforting and sometimes it ticks me off. š
The notion of forgiveness has long been a puzzle to me. In the community I grow up in the word was used in a way I assumed everyone must naturally just understand it. In hindsight I know that wasn’t true. But it feels like it should be so I think we pretend.
I wonāt go too far down that road here, but Iāll just say. Iāve come to see forgiveness as more than a virtue. I see it as the one tool we have to help shape the world, even when we feel small in it. That thought makes me uncomfortable, and sometimes breaks my heart, and sometimes gives me hope. But yes, not easy, and I don’t feel I’m alone in wondering if the hardest person to forgive, may be ourselves.
PeterParticipantHi Debbie,
Iāve been thinking more about a question that stayed with me after reading your post.
I hope itās okay that Iām taking a second attempt, not to answer your question, but to relate to the moment when someone asks, āWhat if my authentic self is someone I donāt like?ā
In my first reply, I was honest but suspect not helpful. I told you Iāve asked that question myself, which is true. But before I asked the question came, I remember saying the words āI hate who I am.ā, Words I still hear myself sometimes still saying,
So, when I read your post, something in it stirred a memory of hurt in me, the kind that once made me ask the question. I donāt want to assume itās the same, but perhaps close enough that I wanted to respond.
And because Iām me, I offered the path and practices that have helped me. But I knew even as I wrote them that words canāt reach the place that question comes from. Hear again if Iām honest, I donāt always like the guy that responses in this way, but he means well.
So last night, I found myself looked again to the wisdom traditions, not at the practices, but at the teachers and wondered how they respond to the hurt behind such questions. This is what I saw:
The Buddha sits beside you in silence, and maybe your breathing begins to match his.
The Sufi reaches out and holds your hand, and maybe your heart breaks a little, but not in a bad way.
Jesus also sits beside you and weeps, sharing your tears if they fall.
The hurt not resolved but⦠but maybe not the sameā¦
This to I would offer.And eventually, the Zen master that is Life comes along and claps his hands loudly and gives you a nudge. You get up, go to work or school, take a dance class maybe or head to the gym. Where maybe someone makes you laugh, or better yet, you make someone laugh. And you find you donāt not, not like yourself.
In another thread, I mentioned how sometimes I imagine my ego, or maybe my id, as a dog responding to energies Iām unconsciously projecting. When Iām anxious, it barks. When Iām avoidant, it hides. When Iām reactive, it lunges… when Iām hurt, I wonder if I can like myself…
But I didnāt mention that sometimes I imagine the dog running through a field of wildflowers, chasing a squirrel it has no real intention of catching. Then, because I’m me, I canāt help wondering if the squirrel knows itās a game and realizes that Iām the squirrel too.
The scene shifts: the squirrel safe in a tree, calling out the dog the way squirrels do and the dog barking back, the way dogs do. A part of both, I imagine laughing.
And in that moment, Life is.
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