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  • #123637
    Sam
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    Hi @msgigi

    Sorry I did not see your post earlier.
    You can reach me through my email: sammimku@gmail.com
    Thanks.

    #118947
    Sam
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    Hi katch899

    I am sorry about what you went through too. Likewise I didn’t care about money too and maybe that’s why we have being betrayed. We should care from now on and trust no one. We gave back to our parents but we didn’t even get a thank-you from them, and that’s sad.

    Anyway we learn from life lessons and then keep moving forward – that’s the important thing.

    Thank you for your message.

    – Sam

    #117315
    Sam
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    @XenopusTex, you mentioned a few days ago (post-116981) that you too made a mistake of trusting family and hence you trust nobody now. Have you shared your story in TinyBuddha Forums or anywhere else online? Just wondering.

    #117314
    Sam
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    Thanks @Anita.

    Thanks @XenopusTex.

    #117277
    Sam
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    Dear Anita,

    I was trying so hard to “forgive” my father and “forget” the whole thing for the last three years, and yes you’re right — it was extremely difficult because I had constant contact with him. I was trying to deny his betrayal and give him excuses — and the biggest excuse was: HE IS MY FATHER.

    I buried my head in the sand.

    I was working for success for years knowing that success bring enemies; just didn’t know that my greatest enemy would be my closest person — my father.

    Thank you @Anita for everything.

    #117237
    Sam
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    Dear Anita,

    You gave me some great hints in dealing with my problem; your posts and words were very helpful and I am very thankful to you. Again, you’re a blessed person.

    Last thing please, can you tell me your thoughts — from your experiences — about the correlation between “forgiving” and “forgetting”? Do they go side by side? Can “forgiving” be considered unhealthy under some situations? Can a victim of any crime “forget” without “forgive”? As an example outside the context, Can victims of rape crimes ever “forgive” their attacker or simply choose to “forget” without “forgiving”?

    #117178
    Sam
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    Hi Anita,
    Thanks for your kind follow up

    Yes my father’s mother is still alive. I told her about my father’s previous problems with me (two years ago) and she stood by me and forced my father to apologize to me, but I did not yet tell her about the money issue, which as I said before, it became clear to me just last month when my father admitted his secret bank account. I hate to go to his mother again and annoy her, but I might do it anyway in the upcoming confrontation.

    About your second point, I guess I am strong and confident with all people EXCEPT my father. That was my weak spot and I admit it. I trusted him to full extent and I never questioned his actions for years, and sadly he considered that to be weakness and hence he easily stole my money and looked innocent and assured of his safety. BUT since I confronted him about the “illegal affair hoax” he actually became very cautious in dealing with me.. I stopped him; uncovered his lies; made it know to him and his mother. I proved to him that I can be very strong if he ever again stepped on my feet. That made him somewhat vulnerable and a bit worried of me for the last 2 years.

    Last month he just made a mistake of casually telling me about the $500,000 bank account. Maybe he forgot the fact that its the money he was stealing from me seven years ago during my four years of overseas employment. Maybe its age-related memory issue or simply some symptoms of Alzheimer! I don’t know.

    #117127
    Sam
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    Hello again Anita,

    I don’t think he can physically hurt me; he is a weak old man who surfer from some health issues. I am not worried about him hurting me; I am worried about me hurting him verbally and emotionally — because I will tell him what he hates to hear, including that he was jealous of me and my higher education and my money and everything I achieved during my 20s and 30s and he failed to achieve during his entire life.

    I will protect myself from him. BTW he knows that I am strong and actually very logical and reasonable during tough conversations and confrontations; I am not afraid of anybody; A lot of people see me as a charismatic self-confident man and rely on me to help them out in their own problems. Two years ago when I confronted my father with his mother (please refer to my post to Pink24 above), he almost break-down and cried and said sorry to me.

    I haven’t mentioned the details of that in my post to @Pink24 above but let me briefly say it now just to get it off my chest anyway.. Two years ago my father angrily told me that Mr. ABC (who is a good friend of our family) has told him that your son Sam (me) is having an illegal affair with many bad girls! Just like that! I was not having such affairs and I considered it as an attack on my reputation and social image, so I asked my father: Did you believe Mr. ABC? and he said: (Yes I do, he is my best friend and he is an old gentleman who never tell lies).. So I went over and confronted Mr. ABC face-to-face, and to my shock he denied the whole story altogether. I wished to die that day! I really wished so! MY FATHER IS A LIAR AND HE IS TRYING TO DESTROY MY LIFE. I asked Mr. ABC to confront my father back which he thankfully did and rebuked him badly. My father felt ashamed but did not attempt to say sorry to me.. So I escalated the subject to his mother, my grandmother, and told her the whole story. She loves me without limits, so she stood by my side against her son, my father, and she actually warned him that he is not her son anymore if he do not fix this with me. Ultimately my father found himself in a tight corner and apologized to me and shed a few tears.

    Back to you Anita, Yes I can easily get a job overseas again and I don’t see an issue on that. I have a master degree in Information Systems Technology and a solid work experience in software development in top companies including Oracle — a giant American corporation.

    To sum up, I think my father’s weak point now is that past experience of Mr. ABC and all its witnesses including his mom, but his main strong point right now would be that I am financially broke and hence I am trying to blackmail him or something! That is expected from him, so as a precaution I may consider confronting him after I get a job overseas again — which I am expecting to happen soon. Its complicated.

    Thank you Anita

    #117095
    Sam
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thanks for returning back.

    You put it right — it was definitely and sadly four years of slave labor thanks to my father. It’s beyond sad. It’s terrible and horrible. You know I wished he never mentioned his secret treasure to me last month and remind me of something I forgot — or trying to forget — for the last three years. Sometimes the dark is better than this kind of ugly truth.

    I get strange feelings that he is trying to provoke or irritate me, otherwise why the hell he reminds me of his or my money now after we closed this subject years ago.

    And yes I know, my mother and siblings do and will always stand by my father against me regardless of the facts. It happened before and I no longer blame them or try to put any heavy weight on their shoulders. Rarely they show empathy if any; sometimes they even accuse me of attempting to destroy the family, not knowing what good I secretly did over the years to support and protect the family.

    Regardless of anything I am planning to confront my father before I go away and distance myself from the whole family, but I will not go without declaring the reason of me going! I will tell the family that my father has lied to me for years and he has my money of $500,000 — good for you all — and that is the last of what I can provide to this non-supportive family. Oh, Anita, some might die from these shocking words but what else I can do! I can forget but never forgive again, and I definitely can’t keep it inside of me anymore. Enough is enough.

    Thank you for your time.

    #117080
    Sam
    Participant

    Hi Pink24,

    OMG! Your story is just a copy of mine with little differences! I also cut off all ties with my father two years ago but only for a short time. I went to India for business/study for just 3 months and never called my father and the whole family during that period ever, for the first time ever. I disconnected myself completely. It wasn’t something easy or normal for me and them since whenever and wherever I travel I used to call them every week just to say hi and salaam alykom. But I was very angry with my father again (due to other issues, not the major story I wrote above). When I came back home 3 months later I confronted my father about those issues and also told his mother, my grandmother, about how badly he was treating me. Fortunately, my grandmother stood by my side against my father and actually got very angry with him; she even told him something bold like (if you don’t treat your son right, you’re not my son anymore)! It was big, and my father shocked and apologized to me, and I agreed to open a new page with him after I laid down rules to govern our relationships (Dos and Don’ts — just like children). Yet, like in your own story Pink, trust issues came up again shortly after that day, and I thought, well, nothing changed or will ever change with my father.

    Its difficult with our society and families and I totally agree with your words: “This world is tough enough without such difficulties”.

    Anyway, good for you that you ended it smoothly and smartly yet also made yourself available for them if they ever need you. That’s beautiful. I wonder like crazy if I could do the same!

    Thank you Pink. Your words were indeed helpful.

    #116985
    Sam
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    Anita:
    Thanks. Take all the time you need and I’m waiting.

    XenopusTex:
    Thanks. You put it clear and right; it was really “blind trust”.

    #116959
    Sam
    Participant

    Hi Pink24,

    Thanks a lot for your kind words and I am sorry you experienced something similar with your mother, in the same middle-eastern culture.

    Regarding your advice, I am already in a very limited contact with my father although we live under the same roof; I kept avoiding him during the last few years; I haven’t spoken with him this month at all since he told me he has my money; of course he didn’t say its my money but you get the point.

    I already asked Anita this question but I would love to hear your viewpoint too: should I go BIG and confront my father, perhaps invite some close family members to join-in in resolving this situation, and then if things went wrong I can, well, take my own separate path in life like you said? Any ideas on that? If you don’t mind sharing, how cutting off all ties with your own mother helped you and to what extend?

    Once more thank a lot.

    #116958
    Sam
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Thank you for your kind support and empathy, not just with me but with many others in this website. You’re blessed.

    Back to my story, I agree with you regarding forgiveness. I already forgave my father the first time three years ago, but now after he admitted he has a secret bank account with $500,000 I simply can’t just go blind again. Its impossible and out-of-question. It would be self-destruction and even weakness of me. My money is out there and I can’t get it. No forgiveness, but I wish I could just forget it and wipe it off my mind! Not even that possible!

    The problem is: legal actions is impossible for me. Yes he is my father and yes he taken my money to his own benefits, but to take legal actions against him is a red-line. Honestly I thought about it for sometime but I came to the concultion that it would do more harm than good. He might die from the shock and sadness alone, and everyone will put it on my shoulders.

    I am thinking about confrontation! To show him that I know everything. That is my main go-plan for now, but even that plan may go badly for both me and him. Why? Because of our damn middle-eastern culture — everyone will stand by my father side against me regardless of the facts simply because he is the father and I am the son.. Its very common here to hear the words: (“Come on, he is your father for God’s sake; don’t you have morals? he is the man who brought you to life and raised you as a child; he can anytime to you and you simply shut-up”)!! Even my father know that he is happily assured of his safety, thanks to our environment and culture.

    Yet, my major concern is, even if I go BIG and get my money back that would not get me my loving father back anyway.. I lost him already, and he will loose me too. Ass of me and because of my hurt right now I can say with absoule certainty: I DON’T CARE.. I don’t care what my father would think, and I don’t care what the people would think — But I very much care for my mother, brothers and sisters feelings and well-being. I am already avoiding and limiting contact with my father but I don’t see a way of cutting contact completely without losing the whole family too. It is a terrible situation.

    What do you think Anita?
    Thank you.

    #116803
    Sam
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    I am so sorry to read your trouble but it would be very helpful if you could explain why Jane was upset with you in the first place.

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