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  • in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #369054
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    I cannot imagine being in his mind.  So tainted by the past.  Not realizing how far he’s come in life, to what is supposed to be a better place.  But I guess if you don’t get help for issues during your growing up years, at some point they come back and bite you.  And in turn bite the one you’re supposed to love.  This is why my daughter is in therapy now.  She will always need to control her triggers of her PTSD, but hopefully will have the tools to use, and not take it out on others.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #369033
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    That would be the healthy way to handle his anger.  I have told him in the past that when he is angry, he can take a break from our communication and go take a walk, work in the garage, whatever.  As I have said previously, we only saw each other on weekends so he was very free to type his anger away in a text message during our away time.  I believed in talking about issues, other than this guy, when we are physically together, to see each others faces and body language. This I told him.

    When we were together physically, things were actually better.  Maybe it’s because I was physically in front of him and he knew how much I love him just by my actions.  When we were apart was when his mind wandered.  He did see a therapist the end of last year for only 3 sessions, and I sat in on the last session with him.  The therapist told him that he felt my boyfriend and I should be spending more time together; he said just look at the way you are with each other. (We were hold hands; sitting close).  But this therapist also told my boyfriend that this is not Katie’s problem, this is your problem.  My boyfriend didn’t like that; he felt it was a relationship problem.

    After the appointment I explained to my boyfriend that this is his problem, but it’s affecting our relationship.  Needless to say, he didn’t go back to that therapist, and honestly they were not a good fit.  I could see that as well.  But, his was spot on with the “this is not Katie’s problem”.

    Thanks Anita.  You’re very helpful.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #369024
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    That is true…a grown man acting like an angry disturbed child can be dangerous.  Not just physically, but emotionally.  A child is still learning right from wrong, what’s appropriate to say and what is not.  A man should know the difference between right and wrong.

    My boyfriend has never been physically aggressive with me, actually quite the opposite.  When we were together he was very gentle and loving.  When the OCD began to play the movies, his words became ugly and abusive.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #369016
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    I must say that when he talks about this high school guy, he sounds very immature, like he is back in high school.  He would say things like, “You must have made a nice couple, both of you with long blond hair.” (Of course these things were said with a nasty tone, not a matter of fact tone.)  His brain does go back to being a teenager.  But, of course, these things were insensitive, knowing, but perhaps not believing, that my encounter with the guy was a trauma.

    My sister is very quick to say to me “Do you want a relationship with a man or a boy? Because he’s acting like a child.”

    I of course try to be more understanding of his OCD and issues.  There is something called “retroactive jealously OCD” which is him to a T.  And, it’s amazing how many men/women suffer from it.

    Again, thank you,

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #369014
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    The first slam that left me speechless was he wanted to know how many guys I was with and what I did with each.  I’m not using his words because they were vulgar.  He was very angry when he said this.  That was the beginning of the year from hell.

    When I go back to that beginning with him, he doesn’t remember what he said.  He actually looked shocked that he said such a vulgar thing to me.  I of course was quick to bring up that he can’t recall such a vulgar statement from, at that time, 6 months ago, but I’m supposed to remember a traumatic encounter with the high school guy from 40 years ago?

    Today he reached out to me in the morning telling me his therapy yesterday was about love and respect.  I think it was probably a good session for him to have had.  No mention of the past again.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368948
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    The abuse definitely was not as bad as it was during my marriage.  During my marriage there was verbal, emotional, physical, financial…you name it.  All except sexual….because that was not going to happen!  He was not passive aggressive…simply aggressive.   I lived in constant fear.  Fear that he would kill me or harm one of my children just to hurt me.  It’s a long story, but I waited until my daughter was 12 before I filed for divorce, so that she would not have to spend weekends alone with him.  My son was already in college (there’s a 9 year gap between them).  My daughter slept in my bedroom with me and the door was always locked.  We lived in my bedroom, which thankfully had its own bathroom.  I was a stay at home mom before starting to work 9 years ago.  I had everything planned out and always had a safety plan in place.  But, before the divorce was final, he died.  That was in 2012.

    The passive aggressive behavior from my boyfriend, as you know, is abusive.  And of course the verbal abuse really shocked me, so much that the first encounter left me literally speechless.  I just started at him in disbelief.  It’s was like someone I didn’t know was standing in front of me.  I thought “where’s (name)? Who is this?”  It was like he flicked a switch.

    He knows the behavior was/is inappropriate, which is where the therapy is suppose to come into play.  But, from my experienced past, I know “I’m sorry” can be said only so many times.

    I long for the man I knew a few years ago.  But if he is no longer there, I don’t want the one the lives inside him now.  I hope that man from a few years ago returns.

    Thank you for always responding.  It does help a great deal.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368933
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    You are correct….I was alone during my marriage for years.  Raised my children on my own.  And, I was alone after the ex died.  At that point in my life, those years of being alone after he died, I felt like I was in a good place.  Then, after 2 years, I friended my boyfriend on Facebook.

    Maybe one day I will be back in that good place I was in years ago.  Emotionally I’m just not there yet and don’t know how long it will take to get there.  But every day is a challenge to just get out of bed and start a new day, but I do it.

    My emotions are like a roller coaster….yesterday I was so down and felt like I couldn’t pick myself back up.  Today I felt better, and felt stronger.  Who knows what tomorrow will bring.  My entire life I have just wanted peace.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368926
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    I believe it could be the perceived danger of being alone.  No one to bounce things off of; no one to hold me when I need a hug because other parts of my life feel messy (like dealing with my daughter’s PTSD).

    But, as I have said in my long ago past about my ex alcoholic abusive spouse, I would rather be alone than be abused.

    I guess I never thought I’d be back where I came from.  Which is so unbelievable to me, that I am hoping for his change to what he was before this past year.  But I’m also not forgetting what this past year was.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368913
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    I do understand what you are saying.  I do have an emotional attachment to him, and I thought he did to me.  I thought he was the love of my life, and he felt the same.  Things were very different before this past year.

    One thing I wrote in my journal this morning is that I don’t want to live the rest of my life alone (not meaning that he is the one I would spend my life with).  After such an abusive marriage, to have had the relationship  I had before this past year, I thought I  was just suppose to be alone.  But, it scares me to not have the connection, a partner to share things with.  Before this “break” we talked to each other many times a day.  The “good morning” text at 4 am; he’d call me on his way to work at 6 am; text me during this lunch break at noon; call me on his way home from work, then we would talk before going to bed.  So it makes what we’re going through now so unreal (there’s that breathing in of reality).

    For about 4 years our relationship was so easy.  That changed when he learned of this guy from high school.

    I am working on me with my therapist. I know I deserve better, but was hoping he would get better to be the better that I deserve.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368905
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    That cry…the reality.  Yes, that sounds like a good observation.

    There are so many things going on in my life right now, and although I at times needed to lean on him, I could never lean that hard.  Because of his own issues (OCD; anxiety), his strength was limited.  He leaned on me way more than I on him.  I was there for him at the drop of a hat.  That’s just who I am.

    Maybe he’ll learn some things about himself in therapy, things he won’t like to hear.  Maybe it’ll make him a better person.

    I want you to know that I keep these words with me wherever I go, words you said to me in one of your previous posts, “it’s not right for him to torment you with what torments him. He should endure his suffering without inflicting it on you. Love means just that, to not inflict suffering on the one you allegedly love. My concern is that he is angry at you, as if you are the cause of his suffering, while you are not at all the cause of any of his suffering.”  Because I do need to remember this.  I have always said to him, “I would never do/say anything to intentionally hurt you because I love you.”  It’s a shame he couldn’t do the same for me.

    At the same time, I’m still hopeful that his therapy is helping.

    Thank you,

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368866
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    The “can’t catch my breath” comes from the cry in my throat.  I guess I’m trying to let go of the him being right for me.  I just never pictured him as not a part of my life.  My anxiety level is elevated daily; I am medicated for it but sometimes even the meds don’t keep my anxiety in check as much as I would like them to.

    Today is a bad day.  I am hopeful tomorrow will be better.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368839
    Katie
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I know he needs time to go through his therapy.  I many times feel the urge to reach out to him, but do not.  Our contact is usually him reaching out to me through texting.  I feel my moods are all over the place.  I’m anxious, sad, hopeful, and sometimes feel like I can’t catch my breath.

    Today at work is my cry day.  I’m in the office alone on Mondays, so that makes it ok to let my emotions flow. Plus, wearing a mask due to COVID hides much of the anguish on my face.   I try to think of my cry days as a release of emotion, but I don’t like my cry days.  I usually visit the meditation room (I work in a hospital) and sit quietly in search of guidance.   The upcoming holidays aren’t helping either.

    I just needed to vent.  I don’t like feeling this way.  I have a daughter at home who is 22 but has PTSD thanks to her father and his alcoholic, abusiveness towards us all.  I feel like I need to put on my “I am a rock” mask at home to help her.  She’s in therapy, but still has quite a way to go with her healing….still nightmares, triggers.

    Even with therapy, I feel like I’m just down in the dumps.  These are the days that I want to lay on the couch under a blanket with my cat.

    Thanks for the ear,

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368804
    Katie
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    Hi Anita,

    He texted me again today.  I know he misses me.  Our communication was many times a day before our break.  He did not mention the past at all.  But also didn’t say the things he still needs to say about this past year of torment.  He has therapy next week.

    I feel like I need to start signing my posts as “Hopeful in NJ” (like “Sleepless in Seattle).

    Thanks again

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368784
    Katie
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    I guess in his mind he lives in the past more than the present.  He even talked about people from high school and things that happened in high school.  He’d say, “Do you remember when so and so did….”   I couldn’t remember the person or the incident.  I’ve moved past that time in my life; he has not.  It was so long ago and so much life has happened since.

    I know when taking a break from a relationship, since we’re not communicating daily as we once did, and not seeing each other, I tend to forget the “bad” incidences and words, and focus on what I miss.  I guess that’s normal.  As I write this I’m having my coffee on the sofa and in the past he would be next to me.  So I have to shift my thought on the moment, what’s happening right now.  My cat is playing and then jumps on the sofa next to me wanting attention.  I focus on his purr and need for my attention.

    I journal daily; it’s something I’ve always done.  But I can say that I never would ever have imagined that my life would be where is it is right now.  I felt that he and I were blessed to have found each other after such a long time.  Now I don’t know why we found each other.  I guess there’s a lesson in there somewhere.

    I still hope his therapy is helping.  I can’t imagine being in his mind.  It must be torture.

    Thank you for listening. This truly is helpful.

    Katie

    in reply to: I thought he was my forever til the end #368764
    Katie
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    It would be nice, but I would be completely surprised if he said he was wrong/insane and understands now that my past does not make a difference in our relationship; that he would like to get back to focus on us now in the present.   He plays the victim role very well.

    I’m trying to move forward but it’s very hard.  My ex-husband I had no problem leaving, because I fell out of love with him long before the marriage ended, and it was actually a relief when he died.  I don’t mean to sound like a horrible person, but when you’re abused by someone so terribly, knowing that they can no longer try to torment you is a relief.  I did feel for my children, but they were also tormented by him, but struggled with closure.

    My boyfriend I love very much.  At this moment I hope to hold onto the bad, not focus on the good, to keep myself sane.  Not easy.

    Katie

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