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    Anonymous
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    My name is Maria and I have been struggling with depression since childhood. I’ve kept it a secret from just about everyone. I find most people have a hard time understanding what it is, downplaying it as if it were something I could just send away. I have learned it is just easier to keep it to myself. Spirituality helps me contain it, change it, make into a beautiful thing I can grow strength from. But it is only a temporary high I cannot sustain. I tell myself if I could just try harder next time, or do better, I can fix it. I am stuck in this endless cycle of highs and lows, wanting to change and not being able to. Some people might define that as insanity. I define it as survival.

    Recently, without my knowledge, a man I don’t know very well has learned about my depression. Through years of observing my behavior by violating my privacy, he has grown to know me and even love me. I believe he accepts me for just the person that I am, and wants to help me get to a better place in life. I know that if anyone can do that, he can.

    The problem with my relationship with him, is that he spends most of our time together psychologically tormenting me, making my depression so much worse. He thinks I like it, that it turns me on, but all I feel is chained to him, drained emotionally and mentally. I have asked him numerous times to stop and he won’t. I believe he does it because he is filled with too much uncertainty. I think he is scared to lose me and wants to be the best man he can be by being everything I have ever wanted. But what he doesn’t understand is how quickly everything I have ever wanted can change. All he can be is himself. And take that leap. Letting go of his power and control.

    Given our circumstance, ignoring him and moving on is impossible. How do I get him to see that I am ready and it is time?

    Please don’t offer judgment. See this situation for what it exactly is before you respond. Thanks.

    #70972
    Maggie Black
    Participant

    Hello lovebuggie.
    I understand about the hiddenness of what you go through as I go through a hidden illness also. Mine is not the same as yours but it is true, that no one can understand us if they have not walked in our shoes. And even if they have, the experience isn’t ever the same so we are always left feeling isolated and in pain to a degree.
    If anything I say sounds judgmental, please know it is not meant that way. I am like you in that regard. I have been through too much to be judged by anyone and I do not like to place judgment on others.
    I want to understand you and I am not sure I do, really.
    When you say this man is tormenting you, of course, that triggers my strongest emotions. “Torment” is just not in the realm of anything I would want anyone to have to experience.
    I am not sure why he thinks you like it unless he has a type of mental disorder as no one who is stable or sane would torment anyone they say that they love.
    If he loves you and is using this method to keep you in some kind of hold then you are in a place of bondage to him.
    You want him to release the power and control and take that leap.
    OK that is fair and reasonable. Is your question to us, how to get him to do that?
    It is my hopes that you can offer a little more information to us.
    I see that you feel he can help you and that he loves you and wants to help you.
    You say that what you want changes daily and I get that.
    On any given day, what is it you mostly want?
    To be loved? To be desired? To be treated in a certain way? If so, what way is that? What does love look like to you?
    Do you feel empowered by this man’s presence in your life?
    I hope you can come back and tell me more. I wish you well and want to help any way I can.

    #70973
    Anonymous
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    I don’t really know what I am asking. Maybe for insight. I cannot persuade anyone to do anything until they are ready to. I understand that most of all. But what he doesn’t understand is that I cannot accept him for who he is in this manner. If he wants understanding and acceptance, he is going to have to take that leap. That is the only way. Otherwise, he will push me away and let me tell you the one thing I know the most about myself. I put everything into relationships, but if you keep pushing me away, one day I will be gone for good and I won’t come back. Ever. Despite his mental condition, he is smart enough to know what he really wants and just how to get it. He is smart enough to know me. I know that I could be very empowered by this man’s presence in my life. But unfortunately, not in his way. He knows that too.

    Love is easy. You meet and you know. The connect is immediately there. You don’t need to define or control it. Sometimes it can be hidden if you meet the person at the wrong place or wrong time. But once both parties know, it’s easy. So why does he make it so hard?

    Love makes you better. You both want to be better for that person. You both can communicate it easily and you both take the other seriously. It is not a fantasy. It is not a role or character you play. It is most definitely not a game of any sort. Most certainly not a mind fuck. And it is entirely experienced through the energy of simply being right next to that person. That is how you know.

    How can I answer anything, without being given the one thing I need to know?

    #70975
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sometimes I think he is wrong about us entirely. If he loves this way, then maybe I am not the one for him, because I cannot love anyone this way.

    Love is vulnerability.

    #70993
    Maggie Black
    Participant

    You have made some great points. Knowing that you cannot make him do anything and knowing that without him doing it, you won’t be happy lets you know what you have to do.

    All you can really do is tell him what you want in a very forthright manner.

    And then it is up to him to proceed.

    You are so right about how love can happen and you just know…
    That is the best kind in my opinion.

    That is what happened to me and I cannot fathom not loving this man!!

    I wish you the same happiness in love.

    Just don’t sell yourself short or settle.

    You deserve to have what you need in your relationships.

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