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  • #209739
    Anonymous
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    Dear L:

    You did the right thing. I am so glad that you did. Regardless of his response, this was the right thing for you to do because it was honest and straightforward. You were true to yourself and true to him.

    Without being true to yourself and true to your partner (potential or in actuality, a partner), what is the point of a relationship.

    The good news is: you did the right thing, you made a healthy, loving relationship a possibility.

    The not so good news is that if he continues to respond positively to you, it will start a difficult process, often not a pleasant one, where the two of you will get to  know each other way more than before, including what doesn’t-feel-good to know.

    Not only will you get to know each other, but you will get to know yourself better, and that is also not always pleasant. We tend to escape unpleasantness while a healthy relationship requires enduring the unpleasant for the purpose of building a healthy, loving relationship.

    It is work, unlike what is suggested in fairytales: “and they lived happily (and easily) ever after”.

    Post again anytime. When I am at the computer and I see a post from you, I will answer it first because I understand this is a stressful time for you, waiting for his response.

    anita

    #209741
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I’m not sure if you missed it but he did respond. I quickly posted it after my longer post.

    he asked:  What where you being dishonest about..

    I’m not sure how to word this but thank you so much. This is going to be a challenge because even with this question. I can’t think of anything I was dishonest with him about.

    ~L

    #209747
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    Yes, I missed the last post on the previous page. Well, he is responding. I would give him a short answer to his recent question but the current communication can’t go on via texting, the two of you need to meet in person for more conversations, not once but repeatedly. For more answers he will need to meet with you.

    Before you suggest meeting, if you do, give him a short answer to his question. What will the answer be?

    anita

    #209749
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    A lot happens when text messaging is the main way of communicating. We sent a few texts back and forth. I’ll post the log here:

    Him: Answer me.. i hv to get back on the road soon.. did u see any body while u where seeing me. What was dishonest……

    Me: I thought everything was fine, when clearly it wasn’t. I was lying to myself and to you, by ignoring that things weren’t okay. No, I was seeing you and only you.

    Him: Im headed to renovate my step dads house. I still need some time to think. I do think of you, not just negative but positive too.. maybe when im back we can chat in person. Im not going to get back involved if you start seeing other ppl though.

    me: Be safe. I don’t expect this to be anything quick or back to how it was. I don’t want the same relationship we had before. I’ll be here when you get back. I don’t feel like seeing other people anytime soon. I need to take care of myself.

    These are times when I’m not sure if my responses are properly communicating how I feel or if they’re getting across to him appropriately. This is somewhat stressful like you said it would be. But I’m happy I’m not anxious.

    ~L

    #209753
    Anonymous
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    Dear L:

    Just read your most recent post (the one ending with “But I’m happy I’m not anxious”). I don’t get his concern with you seeing other men. I will re-read your posts to get a better understanding of this, and/ or you can explain to me this concern of his.

    anita

    #209757
    L
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    so his latest response is: How was our relationship before..

    I now know exactly what you mean by this cannot continue through a text conversation. I’m going to ask, rather tell him I’d rather talk about it in person because it’s too hard to text about.

    in regards to me seeing other men, I’m not sure what he’s on about. I never gave him any reason to think I was cheating or that I cheated. I know one of his girlfriends cheated on him. He said he took his little brother on a trip, but didn’t bring her along. So she cheated on him to get back at him.

    My job is primarily with men. So he used to somewhat say things like, “were they flirting with you?” Or “it’s only you and him there?” Just things of that sort. And I’d always reassure him that he was the only one. I did cut contact with a few male friends actually.

    ~L

    #209761
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    Yes, this cannot keep happening texting. Beginning to read like an interrogation, him interrogating you and I don’t like it. Do suggest for the two of you to meet. Regarding his jealously of you meeting other men, with nothing to base it in reality, that is concerning.

    I understand he was cheated on by another woman and that understandably affects his trust in women, but he has to know to some degree that it is not you who cheated on him.

    Let me know his response about meeting you. He seems interested enough to me. But like I wrote, at best it will be a long, difficult process.

    anita

    #209767
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    I will be back to the computer in about seventeen hours. Take good care of yourself. Hope to read from you when I am back.

    anita

    #209987
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    An update on the text. So after he asked about how our relationship was before, I told him: “Why don’t we save that for our chat in person. It’s too difficult to talk about this over text.” a few hours after I sent that he responded with: “i do think of you.” Again, it was random, but i responded “I think of you too.”

    This morning, I woke up to a good morning text from him which caught me by surprise. It was how we would great each other usually whoever woke up first. I said good morning back and went about my day. I didn’t send any other texts because frankly, I’d rather talk in person.

    This afternoon, he sent: “Are you going to see another guy.” Again, out of nowhere. It took me a few minutes to think of how to respond because I don’t know why he’s asking, but I responded: “no”

    him: you promise

    me: I promise

    him: I wouldn’t be able to deal with that

    me: i know

    him: Is that why you wouldnt or bc you dont even want to

    me: I don’t want to

    him: Have you had some time to think about how are relationship was

    me: yes, I have

    him: Do you want to know when ill be back, to talk

    me: sure

    I had to make myself give short and to the point answers at the time because I was wondering, why does he assume I’ll immediately start seeing someone else. I wanted to ask him why he thought of that, but I didn’t. I’d rather talk in person about things like that. It’s been an interesting few days. My anxiety has no shown itself in regards to him texting or waiting for him to text me or a response. But I do know we’ll have to talk about his feelings and mine soon enough.

    ~L

    #209995
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    This is my understanding at this point: the reason he asked you and made you promise him yesterday that you are not “going to see another guy” is because he has been worried about it a whole lot lately. He probably had images of you with another man and it hurt him a lot.

    This is not a man who broke up with you because he doesn’t love you anymore. This is not a man who… moved on and is open to a new relationship. He broke up with you because he was in pain and he wanted his pain to stop.

    His pain is the same pain he has experienced for many years: rejection by his own mother who ignored him, who chose to be with other people and not with him, a woman who valued other people, but did not value him. With you, following meeting your family, this old pain was triggered with intensity. He felt ignored by your family. He felt that you valued them but did not value him.

    And he was conflicted: he wants you to … choose him over your family, to stand up for him but he feels selfish for wanting this, at the same time.

    The way I see it, is that he needs you more than you know. He wants your  love very, very much. Desperately.

    My questions to you:

    1. Did he show any jealously over your attention to your son, any competition for your attention on his part?

    2. How do you feel about being in a relationship with a man who is hurting, as he is hurting, a man who needs your love as desperately as he does?

    anita

    #210145
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    He called last night and we spoke at length. Although I had wanted to in person, he wanted to explain why he broke up with me. It’s pretty much what you described. He felt left out and ignored by me and my family. He said at one point, maybe he’s too needy. Since a day has passed and the conversation varied from subject to subject, I can’t remember the details unfortunately. He did explain again at length about my dad & his judgment, the weekend before we broke up and how he didn’t feel included at all.

    Your first question. He never showed any type of jealousy. He understood that I was a mom as well.

    The second question, I don’t know how to feel. I don’t want him to hurt, but if he does not believe I’m capable of being there for him like I’ve tried to be, I’m not sure what else I’d have to do. He said he felt he was putting in 100% and I was only giving 30%. And that it should’ve felt natural to me, but he said it didn’t seem like it was. I did apologize and explain it’s not as easy as it seems.

    We did agree to meet when he returns in a few weeks. Then he’ll be leaving again a few days after that for I’m not sure how long.

    ~L

    #210161
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    The reason I asked if he was jealous of your attention to your son is that if he was (and it is something to further observe) then if he is part of your life, it will harm your son. And because your first responsibility is to the well being of your son, the right thing to do is not be in a relationship with a man who will compete with your son for your attention.

    If he is not competitive with your son, then a relationship with him may work out for you and for him, but there is no way for it to work out unless you are prepared to treat him as your number one person, the most important, your highest priority in the context of your interactions with your parents and anyone else (other than your son).

    And then when you do treat him most attentively, you have to be prepared to it not being enough for him. He will still feel unimportant to you, when you forget something he said, for example. We can’t always remember, always be attentive, and so this will be a recurring theme: him feeling not important enough to you.

    Are you willing to be in a relationship where your 90% attention to him (100% is not possible) is repeatedly only 30% in his experience?

    anita

    #210571
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    It has been a busy past few days. Update: he has been calling and texting everyday. I’m staying as nonchalant as I can be. He suggested going away for a few days once he returned from his job. We still have yet to talk in person. But, my thinking, especially because he stated he wants to take things slow, is it’s probably not a good idea to spend a few days away together, like a couple, if that’s not what we are. He spoke of the possibility of being in a relationship again, but doesn’t want to rush things. I mentioned all this to him and he responded well I guess i’ll see you in July since you don’t think it’s a good idea to come with me for a few days. Then sent a follow up text stating: Im sorry for being selfish, im not trying to make it feel rushed or change you in anyway, i wish that you didnt look at it like that. Just more aware and thoughtful i guess.. but if you feel like im trying to change you thats not the case and im sorry.

    i don’t remember saying anything about him changing me. If I did, it was late and this has been exhausting to try and improve things over the phone. I know you said it would be hard.

    As far as the effort I need to put in and him not viewing it as 90%, well that will be hard as well. If I’m unable to contribute to his happiness with what I’m able to at the time, it will hurt the relationship more. It’s a pain to try and talk over the phone about issues when they are small and could very well be ironed out.

    ~L

    #210585
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear L:

    So he wants to go slow but go away with you for a few days, spending so much time together for a few days.. that is not slow. I agree with your thinking.

    Reads like he is emotionally attached to you and is interesting. Problem is a relationship with him will not be easy for you. It will require a lot of work on your part. It may take away from the energy you need being a mother. It may not be worthwhile for you. So pay attention, keep your eyes open, listen and be attentive to what he says and what a relationship with him is likely to be, for you and for your son.

    Pay attention so that you can make better and better choices.

    anita

    #212447
    L
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    So much has happened within the last week. And it all ended in a complete collapse of the relationship on my fault yesterday.

    Last week I took my trip out of town. Since my ex and I were on speaking terms again, I didn’t want to have to explain I was going out of town to somewhere new, for no reason. The actuality was I was going to visit a friend, ex boyfriend turned friend for the last decade, of whom I had not seen in over 10 years. It was a spur of the moment trip I made the decision to do right after my ex broke up with me.

    While I was there, I decided (wrongly) that it would be best for myself and my ex if I lied and just said I was working and with my family. He was already questioning my lack of communication and I didn’t want to explain where I was and why I was there. I knew already he wouldn’t have understood.

    Yeaterday, after spending most of the day together trying to just talk and hang out, see if this could be something again, I ended up hurting him. It was not my intention. I had brought in clothes from my trip (don’t know why I still had it in my bag) and while going through them I found my plane ticket. I had meant to throw it away because I didn’t want him to see. Of course it was my blantant lie about the whole thing. I forgot to do so and he found the ticket. Rightly so, he got extremely angry. He went through texts and realized I lied and made me leave.

    I called about an hour later to apologize, knowing full well, I shouldn’t have lied to begin with. During the phone conversation, he brought up everything again about why he broke up with me. How I could’ve just told him I needed to get away and I tried again to explain I didn’t feel he would’ve understood because of how he was acting two days into us talking again. He apologized for breaking up with me and hurting me. He thinks maybe I did this to get back at him, by intentionally leaving the ticket out. But, as mean as it sounds, it was something I didn’t feel I wanted him to know about because we aren’t a couple.

    Im not writing any of this because I was right.  I know it was completely wrong of me to lie about anything. It’s hard knowing I ended up hurting him, maybe more than he hurt me. He did want to start over again, but my need to hide something I knew he wouldn’t understand and him find out about it unintentionally changed everything. My decisions were wrong and I in turn am facing the lifelong consequences of my actions.

    ~L

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