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August 18, 2017 at 1:03 pm #164618NanParticipant
I am writing because I seem to be a little confused and leery of my situation. In a nutshell, fell in love with my first husband again after not seeing or knowing about him for 40 years. We spoke about everything under the sun of my life and his life and that path it took, when he reached out to me on my birthday (he still remembered all this time). The immaturity of both of us (since we married at 19 and 21) did not meet my fantasy expectations, and I dropped a letter on the table, left him 41 years ago, got a quick divorce and moved on without a thought of him, except for a deep guilt and ache over what I had done. I willfully forgot it and had moved on.
3 years ago I was contacted and spoke with the first husband. We found the deep love and NOW the maturity to take each other with gratitude, respect and absolute consideration and concern for each other, without one thought of “what about me?” in the relationship. Absolutely delightful, and more so….
We had determined that we needed to each get divorced and talked of the big problems of having been married to others for decades, and when would be the right time. He has been separated for 3 years now and still unable to get final divorce and settlement of his assets to this day. Several times there has been an agreement in front of a judge, and then a day or two later, the estranged spouse refuses to sign. All assets are frozen under court order, and he is unable to leave the home that is paid for, 2 grown sons living there with minimal house expenses, and all liquid assets/properties are frozen until settled. The wife has moved out 3 years ago, living with a best friend for free. He is unable to move, as there are no funds to move out, obtain his own car, and live in an apartment. Living paycheck to paycheck these days No friends at this old age are agreeable with helping and sharing their own homes, even after offering payment (rent) for a room. “The PuppetMaster” has been vindictive and refuses any contact, to try and settle the money, the house or the shared car. What an education! I found out that the courts cannot force a decision/settlement in a divorce. . With no small children to concern the courts, I have found out that this can drag on indefinitely until someone dies. (Her ultimate goal, I feel). I know of a similar couple that is still in litigation 11 years later.
I have my own issues, of being silent in my home faking it as best I can. I was hoping for him to get past this legal situation, and then I would start my own explosions.
Here is where I am a little unsettled. Due to his financial situation, I had thought that he should get his settlement (never thinking of even 3 years still ongoing), move to his own place, get a car and be free of the toxicity of that situation, before I started. This was the plan we had figured on. I will then have to bear the verbal abuse and mental manipulations of guilt and pity, having thrown away 37 years of marriage on my end. We both work, and I have a little more finances then he has right now. I wanted the ability to be emotionally supported when the going got tough, and remember why I was doing this, in the middle of the night when all alone in an apartment or hotel at first. I feel this will be my situation also, as the vindictiveness of my spouse will probably be the same intensity and same financial blocks, though I have a little stash no one knows about.
We live over 5 hours apart (3 states apart) and I have gotten 2 different messages from my therapist. In prior discussions, it was… both get divorced, stay together and be happy as you want to be, for the rest of your short lives. Then, she says at a later appointment ” don’t implode your marriage yet, as he got no money and you (me) don’t want to be subsidizing no man anymore”. When does money become the deciding factor in a relationship? As my therapist flippantly said,” Romance without Finance, becomes a Nuisance…..”. Does my wallet become the big issue here? I am torn on this…
August 19, 2017 at 6:26 am #164654InkyParticipantHi Nan,
If your first husband wasn’t in the picture, would you get a divorce anyway? I’m thinking if the marriage was that bad, you wouldn’t need an excuse of a new (old) person to exit. You should start your own escape whether the first guy was around or not.
Unfortunately, with these separated guys, three years becomes ten years, and there’s always something. Of course he reconnected with you! You represent youth, second chances and what ifs! This could be just a nice fantasy for him. Or he desperately wants out and is dead serious. But this divorce/money battle is something he should go through on his own.
And it’s true about the finances. Let’s say you end up together. You will both be stressed out and you will probably “carry” him into his old age.
I would just keep him as a lover.
Best,
Inky
August 19, 2017 at 9:47 am #164686AnonymousGuestDear Nan:
You asked: “When does money become the deciding factor in a relationship?”
If it is practically possible for you and first, short-term husband to live together now, to literally rent or buy a place and occupy it as a couple, and pay the rent and necessary bills, be it through employment or social security, or both, then it is practically possible now.
The reason he is staying where he is- is because he doesn’t want to lose those frozen assets in the future when they get liquidated. The reason you are staying where you are is because you don’t want the distress of what you call “explosions” of divorcing your second, long-term husband, part of which would be financial.
You and first husband are staying in unfavorable situations in the present time so to not lose money in future time.
Here is an interesting-to-me observation: these very “unfavorable situations” are presently experienced by both of you, separately, as favorable enough to maintain. It is the changing of these situations that is perceived by the two of you, separately, as unfavorable. Basically, it is the two of you, you and first husband, complaining about your situations, but each one is… reasonably comfortable in your current situations.
anita
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