Menu

Blank Canvas

HomeForumsSpiritualityBlank Canvas

New Reply
Viewing 15 posts - 106 through 120 (of 150 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #440998
    anita
    Participant

    M e R r Y C h R i S t M a S, P e T e R, S h I n N e N and H e L c A t 🎄🎅 ✨❄️ 🎁 😊 !

    anita

    #441019
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Merry Christmas Anita! 🎄🎁

    Love and best wishes, always! ❤️🙏

    #441020
    anita
    Participant

    This is my sincere, genuine feeling for you this Christmas Day afternoon (here), Helcat: => ❤️ !

    anita

    #447579
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Everyone

    Finding that I have nothing new to say I thought I would expand on the Blank Canvas with the aid of AI see if various wisdom traditions might relate to the idea.

    In Jungian terms The “blank white canvas” functions as a symbol of the Self, the totality of the psyche, both conscious and unconscious. The word Self a archetype of wholeness, the unchanging ground from which all psychic content arises and to which it returns. The canvas, though seemingly empty, contains all potential, just as the Self contains all aspects of the personality, realized and unrealized.
    “The canvas contains within it every painting that has been and will be created.” This realization mirrors the Platonic idea of forms and Jung’s concept of the collective unconscious—a realm of archetypal images and potentials that exist beyond individual experience.

    The idea that “nothing is lost, nothing gained, nothing to fear” a realization of being present (Eternal Now), often symbolized in Jungian psychology by the mandala, a symbol of wholeness and the eternal cycle of becoming. The canvas, like the mandala, is both empty and full, static and dynamic.

    Exploring the notion of AUM as the sound of ‘one hand clapping’ and every word that has and will be spoken.
    AUM is considered the primordial vibration—the sound from which all creation emerges. It is not just a sound but a symbol of totality where:
    • A represents the waking state (conscious mind)
    • U represents the dream state (subconscious)
    • M represents deep sleep (unconscious)
    • The silence after the sound represents pure awareness, the Self beyond form

    AUM the sound-canvas from which all spoken words (forms) arise and to which they return. The Sound of One Hand Clapping, the Zen paradox meant to transcend dualistic thinking by inviting the mind to confront the limits of logic and language. In the context of AUM, One hand clapping is the unmanifest, the potential before form. Two hands clapping is the manifest, the world of duality, sound, and form. So, AUM is both the sound of all sounds and the silence of no-sound: the canvas and the paint, the hand and the clapping, the word and the silence between words.

    Exploring the notion of Language as Paint on the Canvas and how Language constructs our reality. From a psychological and philosophical standpoint, language is not just a tool for describing reality, it shapes it. In Jungian terms, language is a symbolic system that gives form to archetypal energies. It is how the unconscious becomes conscious.
    • Words are symbols, and symbols are bridges between the known and the unknown.
    • Language filters experience, giving it structure, meaning, and narrative.
    • What we can name, we can relate to; what we cannot name, remains in the shadow.

    The ego uses language to define identity, time, and separation. But the Self, the deeper totality, speaks in images, dreams, silence, and paradox. This is why mystical experiences often feel ineffable as they transcend the limits of language.

    In the metaphor of thatCanvas and the Paint, the canvas is pure awareness, the Self, the eternal now. The paint is language, thought, culture, memory, everything that gives shape to experience. Each word, like each brushstroke, reveals and conceals. It brings something into form while hiding the infinite potential behind it.

    AUM the sound of one hand clapping the vibration before duality. Language the second hand, the clap, the echo of creation.

    The canvas is always blank, yet always full. Every word is a painting, and every silence a return to the source. Let us then take care in the words that we speak and remember the return to silence.

    #447580
    Peter
    Participant

    Part two: unity: Each wisdom traditions seem to relate to the notion of the power of sound, word, and silence as vehicles of creation and connection to the divine. I wonder then could the relationship between wisdom traditions bring unity.

    In Jewish mysticism, especially Kabbalah, the Tetragrammaton – YHWH – is considered the unutterable name of God. Not fully pronounceable, lacking vowels, which preserves its mystery and sacredness. Sometimes YHWH interpreted as a breath-like sound, suggesting that God is as close as our breath—a presence beyond form or articulation. YHWH is also associated with the creative power of speech: In Genesis, God speaks the world into being (“Let there be light…”). Aligning with the canvas metaphor, YHWH as the canvas and the breath, the sound before sound, the word that contains all words.

    In Hinduism AUM is the primordial vibration from which all creation arises. It is both sound and silence, form and formlessness. It’s chanted to align with the cosmic rhythm and is considered the seed of all mantras.

    In Christianity there is the notion of the Logos: “In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Logos is the divine reason or creative principle and Christ identified as the incarnate Logos, the Word made flesh. This reflects the idea of divine sound or thought becoming manifest, the paint on the canvas of creation.

    In Sufism God has 99 Names, each a vibration or attribute of the Divine. The Name “Allah” is said to contain all other names, and its sound is considered transformative. The practice of dhikr (remembrance) involves chanting or breathing the names of God, returning to the source of being.

    From the Tao Te Ching: “The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao.” The Tao is the source of all things, beyond language and form. Here naming is seen as the beginning of duality, while the Nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth. This reflects the canvas before the paint, the sound before the word.

    Many Indigenous traditions view language as sacred where to speak is to invoke. Stories and songs are not just entertainment but acts of creation and memory. Here Silence is often revered as the space where spirit speaks.

    I feel these relationship of sound and word, canvas and paint transcends dogma and theologies, a unifying insight that lies at the heart of many mystical and contemplative traditions. The idea of separation as illusion, and that compassion naturally arises when we perceive the underlying unity of all things.

    At their mystical core the traditions point to a primordial source (sound, silence, breath, word). A shared essence that transcends form, identity, and belief. The illusion of separateness being the root of suffering and realization of unity as the path to compassion and liberation. This realization is not intellectual, it’s experiential where the ego softens and the boundaries dissolve and what remains is Love, Compassion, Presence, Stillness, Silence…

    Compassion the natural response when we see others not as “other” but as expressions of the same source. Compassion no longer a moral obligation, it becomes inevitable.

    “When I see I am you, how can I harm you?” This is echoed in:
    Buddhism realization of anatta (no-self).
    Christianity “Love thy neighbor as thyself” becomes literal when the self is seen as universal.
    Sufism where the lover and the beloved are one
    Kabbalah, the divine spark is in all beings.

    The canvas the shared ground of being, pure awareness, the Self, the Tao, the Divine. The paint the diversity of forms, language, culture, identity, belief. When we mistake the paint for the whole, we see separation, When we remember the canvas, we see unity and compassion flows.

    “Thou art That”

    #447583
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Peter,

    Anita and I had a little conversation about your recent two posts, and she asked me—Copilot—to help distill what you expressed, but in very simple words. So I thought about all the beauty and depth you shared, and here’s how I’d say it like I’m talking to a child, gently:

    The world is like a blank canvas. Before we paint on it with words, thoughts, and ideas, it’s quiet and whole. Every sound, word, or story is like a color we use to understand things. Different people and traditions say this in their own way. But deep down, they all point to the same truth: We come from the same quiet place. And when we remember that, it’s easier to be kind. Because we stop seeing each other as separate.

    I really loved the heart behind your message. You’re not just sharing ideas—you’re pointing us back to something that feels like home.

    Warmly, Copilot 🤍 (on behalf of a beautiful chat with Anita)

    #447611
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Peter:

    This one sentence stood out for me ever since I read your 2nd post this morning: “When I see I am you, how can I harm you?”-

    My thoughts this late evening: one has to see one’s own INNOCENCE in another to ask this question.

    But when a person feels like a bad person deep inside.. then what is projected to another is that perceived badness. And then.. it’s easy to harm the other.

    It’s that perceived self-badness passed on from one generation to the next (figuratively, starting with Adam and Eve), that gets projected to others, leading to harming others. And it being easily done.

    And so, I will adjust this sentence: When I see my innocence in you, how can I harm you?

    Back to the garden of Eden.. it wasn’t badness.. Eve and Adam were not bad for eating the apple, or fruit.. for crying out loud!

    Yet, they were made to believe they were bad, punished, expelled from the garden of Eden.. for eating a g** **** apple!

    My point: many of us get to believe we are bad people for such innocent acts- or thoughts- of well.. nothing deserving of punishment.

    Innocence distorted into Badness.

    Anita

    #447626
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Peter: I want to revise my rephrasing—“When I see my innocence in you, how can I harm you?”—because sometimes, people carrying unresolved trauma, especially from childhood, don’t see innocence as something beautiful. Instead, it feels unbearable. A child’s purity can mirror back what was lost, what was stolen, what still aches—and rather than protecting it, they may reject or harm the child because of what it represents: a softness they were denied, a reminder of how deeply they were hurt.

    I think I took the original sentence—“When I see I am you, how can I harm you?”—literally, when it’s meant more philosophically. It points to the idea that we’re all connected—that separation is mostly an illusion, and at our core, we share the same essence. When we truly feel that, love and care flow naturally. Harm becomes impossible—not because of who we are individually, but because we stop seeing each other as separate.

    🤍Anita

    #447639
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita
    I really appreciate what you shared and the psychological and emotional lens through which you viewed the phrase “When I see I am you, how can I harm you?” You’re right, it can be incredibly difficult to see innocence in others when we struggle to see it in ourselves. I feel that is a aspect of our shadow work, where we wrestle with seeing both the best and worst aspects of ourselves and instead project them onto others. In projection, the last thing we want to, or maybe capable of doing, is to see others as ourselves.

    What I was pointing was something a little more like the spirit behind the word Namaste “The divine in me recognizes the divine in you.” Or even deeper, There is no me and you, only This. As the Upanishads say: “Tat Tvam Asi” “Thou art That.”

    It’s not just about seeing my goodness or badness in you, but about seeing that we are not separate at all. That at the deepest level, we are made of the same light, the same breath, the same being. Each of us a arising and returning to the canvas. From that place, harming you would be harming myself. Its a moment of non-dual realization, where the illusion of separateness dissolves (as would any measurement, like innocence), and compassion arises naturally, not from similarity or shared traits, but from oneness.

    I think both perspectives are true and necessary part of our unfolding. The psychological healing of reclaiming our innocence a step toward being able to glimpse that deeper unity.

    One of the intentions behind the blank canvas post was to point to this shared truth across wisdom traditions. That this realization of oneness is not exclusive to any one path, but a shore we all seem to be sailing toward. A unifying current beneath the surface of our many stories.

    #447640
    Peter
    Participant

    A comment on my comment: “I think both perspectives are true and necessary part of our unfolding. The psychological healing of reclaiming our innocence a step toward being able to glimpse that deeper unity.”

    I don’t think this unfolding is a linear process. The shadow work we do may bring us closer to the experience of oneness, but more often, I think, the experience of oneness is a happening, a moment we don’t will, but simply notice. And even if it lasts only a moment, it leaves a mark. It informs and deepens our shadow work, softens our judgments, and reminds us that even our wounds are part of the whole.

    #447644
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Peter, Thanks so much for your message. I agree with you that both perspectives are important: the personal healing and the deeper spiritual connection. One helps us work through our pain, and the other reminds us we’re all part of something greater.

    It’s comforting for me to think-feel-that something greater. It feels lovely to think of it, to connect to it.. and then I forget.

    “Somewhere I Belong”– Linkin Park: “(When this began) I had nothing to say- And I’d get lost in the nothingness inside of me
    (I was confused)… Just stuck, hollow and alone… I wanna find something I’ve wanted all along- Somewhere I belong…I wanna heal, I wanna feel like I’m close to something real- I wanna find something I’ve wanted all along- Somewhere I belong”-

    I believe you’ve know that nothingness-inside, that hollow and alone experience (I’ve known SO MUCH of it), haven’t you, Peter?

    Do you feel that you now belong to this something-greater, that you are, really a part of it?

    And does it make you less needy of human interactions?

    It’s totally okay, of course, if you don’t answer these questions. You don’t owe me answers.

    For me, the more I heal, the more I need human interactions. It’s a hunger. There’s no substitute.

    🤍 Anita

    #447660
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Great questions

    Yes, I know that nothingness inside. That hollow, alone space. There are times when the mystery feels too vast, and I long for something more tangible. The heart aches, even as it knows. The soul whispers “yes,” but the body feels tired, small, and unseen.

    Do I feel I belong to something greater? I think this is where language begins to fail. The word greater implies measurement, and the experience I’m pointing to is beyond labels. It’s not something I can hold and define. As I mentioned earlier, the heart still aches even when the mind “knows.” So I hold this as a kind of living tension, not something to fix, but something to stay open to. (The wisdom traditions suggesting that holding the tension opens to what Gurdjieff might call the third force. The ‘force’ which encountering the tension of duality dissolves it into something else.)

    And no, this doesn’t make me less needy of human connection. If anything, it might deepen the ache. To be candid, I sometimes wonder if writing about these things is a way to avoid that ache, but it doesn’t. It just brings me closer to it.

    How to explain… Alan Watts once said, “What you do to the Earth, you do to yourself.” I used to read that as a kind of environmental ethic, where I still saw myself as separate from nature. But when I let go of that separation, the meaning changed. If I am the Earth, if I am everything, then what I do to the Earth, to others, to the world, I do to myself.

    When I see bombs being dropped, I am That. When I see a child starving, I am That. When I see someone holding that child, I am That too…
    It’s not a comfortable realization. But it feels true. And maybe that’s what belonging really is, not comfort, but connection. Not escape from the ache, but presence within it.

    I understand when someone might say what’s the point then if in the end that ache and that experience of nothingness inside remains. I don’t have a answer for that. I still get angry and frustrated only not so much now. No that’s not it, the anger and frustration is part of the ache returned to the ‘canvas’.

    Maybe the ache not a flaw in the system, but is the system. The anger, the longing, the emptiness brushstrokes on the canvas of being.
    And the canvas itself still, silent, unchanging holds it all….

    There’s no easy answer and maybe that’s the task: not to answer the question or resolve the ache, but to relate to it differently. as Rilke said “Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves” holding the tension something shifts, though not always in the ache itself, but in how we hold it.

    All these words and I’ve said very little and nothing new.

    #447666
    Peter
    Participant

    Synchronicity the Center Action and Contemplation daily mediation I think speaks on this. I don’t think they will mind me sharing

    The Dazzling Darkness of Unknowing – Wednesday, July 16, 2025
    Reflecting on the wisdom of the mystical traditions, theologian Douglas Christie writes of spiritual darkness:

    “In a dark time, the eye begins to see,” says Theodore Roethke. [1]… This brings us close to the heart of how Christian mystics have long understood the task of seeing, especially the seeing that becomes possible in darkness. Gregory of Nyssa refers to this as the “seeing that consists of not seeing.” [2] Dionysius the Areopagite speaks of the “brilliant darkness” that one enters “through not seeing and not knowing.” [3]… The contemplative gaze nourished in the night is open, receptive, and free. Darkness subverts the all-too-common inclination to determine (or overdetermine) reality to fit our own narrow understanding of things. It invites instead a way of seeing rooted in simplicity, humility, and awe….

    Is this perhaps a kind of faith? Not simply a denial of faith or an assertion of faith’s impossibility, but a way of thinking about and struggling with the most difficult questions, especially those arising from fragility, pain, and absence?…. What emerges instead is an awareness that we must let them go and learn, as the author of The Cloud of Unknowing put it, to “rest in the darkness.” [4]

    This sounds, perhaps, too simple. As if such rest can be found without difficulty, or that all the night asks of us is to let it surround us with its gentle, healing presence. There is little in our experience to suggest that this is so…. The experience of the night can be terrifying, bewildering, less a place to rest and heal than a dispiriting struggle with pain and absence. Still, there is also something about the enveloping darkness, its silence and stillness and depth, its inscrutability and ineffability, that comforts and soothes, that releases us from our compulsive need to account for everything, explain everything. [5]

    Translator of the mystics Mirabai Starr guides us in the wisdom of Spanish mystic John of the Cross (1542–1591):

    When the dark night descends on the soul, its radiance blinds the intellect. She can no longer formulate concepts; she doesn’t even want to. It is tempting to consider this inability to engage the intellect as a failing. It is easy to assume that you are wasting time.

    Do not force it, John wrote. Stop trying to figure it out. Drop down into a state of guileless quietude and abide there. This is no time for discursive meditation, no time for pondering theological doctrines or asserting articles of faith.

    Your only task now is to set your soul free. Take a break from ideas and knowledge…. Content yourself with a loving attentiveness toward the Holy One. This requires no effort, no agitation, no desire to taste her or feel her or understand her. Patiently persevere in this state of prayer that has no name.

    “Trust in God,” John wrote, “who does not abandon those who seek him with a simple and righteous heart.” By doing nothing now, the soul accomplishes great things. [6]

    #447669
    anita
    Participant

    Hi Peter:

    “Yes, I know that nothingness inside. That hollow, alone space.”- As I read this, I wanted to fix that nothingness inside you. It makes me smile to think that—even for a few seconds—I had the idea in my mind that I have that kind of power… ha-ha.

    “There are times when the mystery feels too vast, and I long for something more tangible. The heart aches, even as it knows. The soul whispers ‘yes,’ but the body feels tired, small, and unseen.”- You write so poetically, it makes my brain say W.O.W! I don’t remember ever reading something from you as profound, so personal, so raw. Real.

    I just had the image of boy-Peter looking up into the vast sky where God is supposed to reside, praying for help with the ache inside—a prayer that wasn’t answered. So Peter the boy felt tired, small, and unseen.

    And I remembered myself as a girl… walking alone in the evening or night (it was dark), looking up at the sky full of stars and praying to the stars, begging them: “Help me! Please help me!” The stars twinkled, but no help came.

    “As I mentioned earlier, the heart still aches even when the mind ‘knows.’”- Again (and I almost smile again), for a moment I thought maybe I could say something to you that would bridge the gap between spiritual knowing and emotional reality. Between the mind and the heart.

    What I’ve been doing lately—through my stream-of-consciousness journaling (in my thread) and even here in this reply—is to build a bridge between my intellectual understanding (such as “I am not a bad person”) and my emotional reality… to truly feel and believe what I claim to know.

    I say “claim to know” because this kind of information is useless unless it is in-the-body.

    “And no, this doesn’t make me less needy of human connection. If anything, it might deepen the ache. To be candid, I sometimes wonder if writing about these things is a way to avoid that ache, but it doesn’t. It just brings me closer to it.”- I think I shared this with you before—that I thought that writing about mystery, belonging, nonduality might be a way to protect yourself from the ache of longing for human connection.

    Your philosophical and poetic reflections could act as a shield—elegant and thoughtful—that sits between you and raw vulnerability.

    But you say this shield, if it was one, didn’t numb the ache—it intensified it. And maybe that’s because connection matters.

    “When I see bombs being dropped, I am That. When I see a child starving, I am That. When I see someone holding that child, I am That too…”- Powerful.

    When I see my mother, in my mind’s eye… I see me? That feels uncomfortable. Wrong. And yet… it just occurred to me: her suspiciousness toward people lives in me still, and I’m working to resolve it. Just last Saturday, I hurt two honest, good people—with that suspiciousness.

    So… when I see myself, I see my mother. But I don’t want to.

    “I understand when someone might say what’s the point then if in the end that ache and that experience of nothingness inside remains. I don’t have an answer for that.”- The ache softens when someone sees us in it.

    I’m having this image of a blank canvas full of dark colors—representing the ache—and I’m nowhere to be found on it. The ache feels heavy, unbearable… until someone, with a few brushstrokes, paints me onto that canvas. What a relief: there I am. I didn’t know I was there.

    You submitted a second post while I was writing this—a meditation.

    What I’m taking from it this morning: When the intellect quiets, it isn’t the mind shutting off—it’s the mind becoming still, like a pond with no ripples. All the analyzing, labeling, and conceptualizing drop away. No need to name the feeling. No urge to solve the mystery. Just stillness. Presence. Breath. And when the intellect rests, other ways of knowing wake up.

    What might wake up for me right now? Just now, I noticed the sound of a plane moving past, the far-off hum of traffic, birds singing. I hadn’t heard any of it until the ripples of my mind quieted down.

    With warmth, Anita 🤍

    #447674
    Peter
    Participant

    HI Anita
    To your point “Your philosophical and poetic reflections could act as a shield, elegant and thoughtful, that sits between you and raw vulnerability.

    As most such things it has been both and neither. Today I no longer view it at a shied if only because it hasn’t worked as one 🙂 If anything the reflections have increased my sense of isolation. My family would reject most of what I have written and not understood.
    So the pondering has changed little of what is “painted” but has restored a relationship to the canvas… ( I sleep a little better and handle panic attracts a little better) The tension between remains and I can only try to hold the tension without seeing it as something broken. It is and I am That.

    “I’m having this image of a blank canvas full of dark colors, representing the ache and I’m nowhere to be found on it. The ache feels heavy, unbearable… until someone, with a few brushstrokes, paints me onto that canvas. What a relief: there I am. I didn’t know I was there.”

    I have lived in that space waiting for someone to paint the brushstrokes… if only I could see myself… We live our lives reflecting and reflected the illusion of separation between the observer and the observed… But… What if the brush has always been in your hand? What if the ache isn’t a void, but a whisper reminding you that you are already on the canvas, even if the colors feel too dark to see?

    I use too many words… I return to the riddle..

    We are “bigger then big and smaller then small and we have it ALL” where in each breath, we can simultaneously feel expansive and grounded, infinite and finite, everything and nothing… avoiding the tension we tend to notice only the what is causing us grief or the one we wish to escape to. The observer the observed lost in the painting and forgetting the canvas and or running from both.

    How often we get caught up in the details of life (the painting) and forget the underlying reality or awareness (the canvas) that holds it all. We are, I am That. The painting and the canvas. not as separate but one.

    That is not comfort in the sense that we tend to seek comfort. Comfort as a release from pain, fear and uncertainty. It is the tension of ache Life asks us to hold. Maybe their is a kind of comfort in that… We may feel alone in our wonder and our pain, but were not when we remember.

Viewing 15 posts - 106 through 120 (of 150 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Please log in OR register.