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February 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm #73352ElleParticipant
I’m sorry to hear that so many beautiful people out there are suffering from the same situation. I hope the responses you found on this thread have given you some peace like they helped me. I’ve had a really busy week at work and haven’t had time to think about my situation. Ha! Sometimes being too busy with work is a blessing. When I thought about him earlier this evening all I felt was love. Yes, I am incredibly hurt and sad, but I wish him love and peace and hope that he is able to grow and overcome the limitations that he has put on his mind and his heart. He said that he was struggling with identity issues having grown up in a multicultural household (parents from different European countries) and that he didn’t want to add any further complexity to that. And I believe him. Maybe he was being really heroic and wanted me to find someone from my faith so I wouldn’t have to deal with challenges. Maybe he met someone new. Whatever it is, I send him love. I trust that life is a mystery and sometimes you just have to be comfortable with that rather than drive yourself crazy wondering why and what could have been. If we’re meant to be together we will find each other again, if not, then I just have to accept that too.
February 27, 2015 at 11:08 pm #73353MiaParticipantHi @bpkhss Everything in my mind now, you said it exactly.
How I still love him and hope the best for him.
How I wish he would open his mind and heart and outgrow his religious viewWe are in a pretty same state of mind. If it should have, then it would have. ME too, getting busy with works and project… distract my mind for a while. Feel blessed with all happened in my life. Even sometimes it hurts like hell.
February 28, 2015 at 6:37 pm #73375pink24ParticipantI wish culture was an easier thing to reconcile, but I guess everyone is on their own journey to finding out who they are and what they are about. I can honestly say, I used to be someone who believed that ‘love is all it takes’. But the more relationships I’ve seen myself in, the more I’m beginning to believe that maybe we need to know what we are about, who we are, what’s important to us, before we commit to someone else. I know I never did. And reading some of the messages here, I get a glimpse into what my exes may have felt. Not that I ever made any breakup about culture, but it was always really about culture, if you know what i mean.
I never wanted the Arab part of me to shrink in anyway–it’s so small as it is! Exes, they never really got it. Most likely because at the time I didn’t realize how important it was for me to make that part of me exist, and just the fact I’d have to make an effort to make it exist…
Anyhow, maybe that’s what some of these exes you all write about. Maybe that’s what they think too. Or maybe it’s just harder for men to adapt. Sometimes i think that too. Who knows. But thank you for sharing your stories. They help me see that other people deal with the same things I do. That’s always a nice feeling to have. Sending good vibes to you all….
Pink:)
March 1, 2015 at 9:25 am #73384ElleParticipantThe more that I think of these “culture barriers” the less I understand them to be honest. I mean at the end of the day we are all humans and we share the same needs, desires and aspirations. Sure we have differing ways of thinking, but these aren’t particularly tied to culture but more about upbringing and personalities. Especially in this day and age where we’re exposed to all sorts of cultures, even if it’s just online, I think it’s difficult for a person to be of just one “pure” culture that’s incompatible with other cultures. I don’t consider myself as being defined by one culture. I’ve lived in so many different places and have friends from some many different cultural backgrounds/ ethnicities and each has left a mark on who I am. But that doesn’t make me incompatible with someone from a different cultural background, it makes me even closer to them. I can easily appreciate the music, food, history and dynamics of other cultures and feel confident that this variety enriches life. And I have seen people with less multicultural experience have very successful marriages and relationships with people from other cultures. It comes down to two people in a relationship committing to making things work. The biggest issue in my case was that the way I dress (a headscarf along with normal Western clothes) immediately associates in people’s minds with one culture. And for my guy it was more about that outside perspective, the “what would people think” than any cultural differences within our relationship. On a number of occasions when we would go out he would notice people looking at us and that made him uncomfortable. He could very possibly have been projecting his insecurities. I never felt that anyone was looking at us in an outraged way, if anything they probably thought we made a cute couple 🙂
So anyway, that was one thing and the other thing was the family issue. And that was the biggest issue.My family would never accept me marrying a non-Muslim. His family would never accept him marrying a Muslim. So instead of getting our thinking caps on and trying to figure out a solution to that, he wanted to save us the agony of fighting that battle. I feel like lots of guys who are in that situation lose the strength to stand up for the relationship and instead they break it off so that you can find someone with whom convincing family etc of the relationship wouldn’t be a battle. That’s not to say that they aren’t equally hurt by the situation, they very well may be. But in their minds they’ve rationalized it as the right thing to do.
I hope @Alf and other guys who come across this thread can share their thoughts on this. Am I on the right track with this conclusion?October 26, 2015 at 6:37 pm #86151ElleParticipantI haven’t been on this site in a very long time. But I thought I’d stop by and thank you all once again for your kind words when I was so down. At that time I couldn’t imagine feeling good and loved again. But guess what? It happened!! I kind of put myself out there even though I wasn’t over my ex. I don’t know how it happened but I met someone who is totally heads over heels in love with me. He’s thoughtful, loving, and not at all scared off by my heritage. He wants to make things work. Imagine that! I can’t tell you that I took time to heal and love myself and be happy…I mean I did try to do that but I was no where near healed. But all of a sudden out of nowhere, my new knight in shining armor came along. We’re taking things one step at a time, no pressure and no rush. But I’m happy to be in this spot. Thanks to you all for being there for me and encouraging me to hang in there. (PS: @pink24, when you said that he would come along, I didn’t believe it one bit, but you were so right, my friend 🙂 )
October 28, 2015 at 5:04 am #86302pink24ParticipantYay! Elle that is such great news! You soooo deserve it. Go get it girl. 🙂 Pink
October 28, 2015 at 7:14 am #86303AnonymousGuestDear Elle:
I am trying to widen my understanding of Muslims, what it means to be a Muslim, so I am asking for information only, the best information you have and for no other reason: I thought that being a Muslim woman (visibly, a woman wearing a head scarf and identifying herself as a Muslim) means that you do not have physical intimacy with a man until you are married. I thought physical intimacy with a man when not married was a big No-No, so when you typed that you had such, I was… shocked. Can you tell me, did I read correctly, that is physical intimacy with a man before marriage is okay with you and okay with who else within the Muslim community? Do you go to a mosque and if you do, isn’t it a RULE of sorts that you are breaking? Please tell me more, I would like to understand it.
anita
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