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May 6, 2016 at 7:07 pm #103815ravi_zimmerfanParticipant
You already have reached out and been one of the few who has truly helped me survive these darkest of times, Anita. Not exaggerating. I can never be grateful enough. Just 10 days left for my exams and I’m just focusing on my studies now, trying to push everything else from my mind. Somehow all this made me realize that I’m nothing but a worthless sack of waste that has no value any longer, and numbed the pain a bit so I can focus on my studies and just pray that my loved one understands my heart someday.
May 6, 2016 at 7:50 pm #103823AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
How kind of you, to write me that I already reached out to you. I understand, you numbing yourself so that you can study these last 10 days before the exam. You are in my thoughts not only when I am at the computer, and I am on your side, hoping for the best for you, definitely. Till your next post, take care of yourself best you can.
anita
May 7, 2016 at 6:56 am #103856ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThanks Anita. She did not wish me today. Not that I was expecting her to, but still… somehow am not feeling anything right now. Left all that to the higher powers. Spent the whole day in the library and traversing the rocky path up ahead.
May 7, 2016 at 7:19 am #103857AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
To survive, at times, it takes going numb. It is the effective way to go about things right now. “Traversing the rocky path up ahead”- I like the way you use words. Quite impressed by your intelligent, creative writing.
anita
May 9, 2016 at 7:39 pm #104089ravi_zimmerfanParticipantWe got news late yesterday that there have been more changes regarding my exam, and most likely I’ll have to take the new one being held on July 24 now. That one is a whole lot tougher than what I had been preparing for, and will require extra effort in these two months. I’m seriously feeling sick. I had hoped to be done with exams next week and get some time off, but now I have to slog an extra 2 months working even harder, and if I don’t make it then yet another year of strenuous preparation awaits me. I feel so angry, frustrated and ill-tempered knowing that certain family members of mine made me get abysmal home tutoring back when I was still green and enthusiastic and had the full potential to qualify these same exams, just because they didn’t want me to go out of home because nothing is more important than food and sleep, apparently.
All that while the depression returned in full force when I remembered her wishing me and sending gifts so sweetly last year, now she’s acting like I don’t exist. And tomorrow is her brother’s birthday and she must be busy lovingly preparing for it without caring that someone she once loved as much as him, she’s now ditched just because I committed the great sin of loving her more than a sister. Maybe it’s my payback for being “greedy” and wishing more than being just a brother to her. I know I should have valued her far more than I did. But I did my best to apologize and make up to her and I truly am doing my best to change myself just for her, discussing my flaws here and controlling my use of profanity and temper. I didn’t say a word against her sister piling those accusations on me. If there’s any justice at all in the world then I wish I got one more chance and our bond gets repaired… but I am feeling hopeless.
Sorry for venting out but the stress is getting just so much. My depression is killing me already and the continuous pressure of exams and the “Study! Study! Study!” mantra at home is ticking me off so much. I just want to go away somewhere and get a break from all this.
May 9, 2016 at 7:51 pm #104091AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Venting is okay. You write so well, with wit and sarcasm no matter how you feel. Quite amazing.
This is not a good situation. I understand you wanting to run away. I don’t think it is such a bad idea. Sure, i don’t know the details of how you can run away in India with no money.
If I was you and in the U.S., if my life was everything your life is like, but I lived in the U.S. (I don’t know how it would be in India)- I would run away in the morning. I would pack just a few belongings, a sweater, for one, or a coat and with a back pack I will hitch hike, something, just put the miles/ kilometers in between me and the-scene-of-the-crime you call Home.
And I would never look back.
This is my sentiment. I hope you are online right now. Write me again, will you?
anita
May 9, 2016 at 8:17 pm #104096ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI know, Anita. Though I know running away is of no use. At this point if I don’t qualify these exams, there aren’t even any significantly good career opportunities left. But almost nobody has tried to understand what I’m feeling like and what I’m going through. I’m 27 now, it’s been 10 years since I passed out from school and I’ve done nothing useful or productive since then. My schoolmates all have jobs, many are married with children and I’ve been hiding from them all these years out of shame. I’ve not even talked to any of my teachers from years. If any teachers, parents or even neighbours visit my home, my parents ask me to hide so that I don’t get quizzed about my career. Grandma has told all relatives that I’m in final year at medical school because they had trusted that fraud person… obviously someday that truth will come out and I’ll have to face the consequences.
If that isn’t enough, I’m now being expected to toil endlessly for 2 months and qualify one of the toughest exams in the country with a top rank, while my insides are screaming in pain and misery remembering the only girl I ever loved, whom I wronged and who no longer understands me, considers me a traitor at best and pervert at worst. I just don’t know how much more I’ll be able to take. I downloaded one of my old favourite cartoon shows and am making a gift for one of my rare few friends who genuinely tried to help me. But nothing is helping me gain the sheer tenacity and force to study like I need to.
May 9, 2016 at 8:32 pm #104097AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
It is tough to respond to such misery as you express. Well, as you know, this lagging behind your peers in terms of profession, income, own family, you have your lovely grandma, mother, and father who all share the responsibility of this lagging behind your peers, from spoon feeding you till high school, to insisting on inferior home tutoring, to believing a fraud person, imprisoning you, fostering dependence on them… and so much more.
So if you have to carry shame, share it with the other three, and since most of your life with them you were the child and they were adults, assign them with the biggest portion of responsibility.
I don’t know where you go from here. The S word, I guess (S.t.u.. you know the word, you here it all the time).
I wish none of this was true. I have nothing encouraging to say. This is frustrating beyond words.
anita
May 9, 2016 at 9:02 pm #104098AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
it is about my bed time and I feel badly about the latest (and earlier) developments.
Since you are not going to run away, then July is the new reality. And a tougher exam.
I understand it is morning time in India. I just googled. 9:24 AM on Tuesday, a day ahead. And having googled it reads, population in India is 1,251,695,584. I did not know: over a billion, two hundred fifty one millions? Is this correct? My goodness, I didn’t know.
Anyway, hang on, Ravi. You may be one of one billion, two hundred and fifty one millions, six hundreds and ninety five thousands and five hundred eighty four people of India alone (not to mention the whole world population), but you are one very special man: intelligent, witty, humorous, articulate, an excellent writer, a loving man. No shame, Ravi. You have no reason to be ashamed.
anita
May 10, 2016 at 7:09 am #104130ravi_zimmerfanParticipantThanks for the encouraging words, Anita. And yup, the population of our country is nearing 3 billion now. I honestly don’t care where I stand among them or in the world population. Making myself stick out in a crowd, or be the life of a party… I never felt like that. I always preferred to be alone and quiet in my own world, with the few people I care for and the few material comforts I’m addicted to (cell phone, computer, music collection). I just do know the only person I loved more than anybody in my life, I’ve almost certainly have lost thanks to my own greediness and idiocy, partly her lack of understanding. Whatever positive virtues I may have, are useless for me if I cannot have her back. I feel nothing but sick thinking of July; I’m truly exasperated with this career issue. My patience is being tested beyond limits. I don’t know what good sharing with the other three is going to do; the damage is done. I can see nothing but more and more misery up ahead. I wish I could just get a temporary break from all this, which is impossible.
May 10, 2016 at 7:30 am #104136AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
I think seeing who is responsible for what is still a good practice because otherwise, your misery is greater. If you see yourself as responsible for what you are not responsible for, that makes things worse. I am glad you gave Jerry a bit of the responsibility she owns, that of “lack of understanding.” And when you feel the (unjustified) shame due to social conventions and comparison to peers, don’t take on yourself all of it, simply because you own just a small part of it.
See the whole picture. And I do understand your exasperation and despair, how can I not. What I automatically did in times of greater despair was to minimize myself, like a plant or animal that shrinks when water and nutrients are scarce, shrink my hopes, my expectations, my wants.
The good thing in my life is that following such shrinkage, i am experiencing some expansion, so the things shrunk did not disappear for good. Some maybe, not all.
A temporary break, what you need, make it happen, somehow, some doable break, something simple?
anita
May 10, 2016 at 7:53 am #104139humourParticipantHi Ravi,
I am sorry for what you’ve gone through and the frustrating situation you are in right now. I believe that you have not wronged her. Just having a few weeks of conversation with someone whether in person or online can be sufficient to develop feelings. Since you both know each other for three years and shared common interests, definitely there is an attachment. Attachment has nothing to do with sisterly love, friendship or a conjugal relationship. For instance I can be really attached to my mother and can miss her if she is out of town for a few days. You are feeling attached to her and missing her even more because she has stopped talking to you. Even if you have developed feelings for her beyond that of friendship, that does not make you a pervert, no matter what she says. Who knows, may be she has also developed feelings for you beyond friendship but denying it for various reasons. Maybe she is scared. You have no way to tell. I don’t think that she not talking to you has anything to do with your anger issues. Don’t beat yourself up for it. Since you say that for the last couple of years you have not spent time with your friends and don’t have a life outside of home or you didn’t have an opportunity to share with a sibling or cousins, you got rather close to her and now miss her. On the other hand, she must be in college now with a group of friends and also a sister with whom she can share stuff. Its rather hard for you that no one is understanding what you are going through and your mind keeps telling you, you are a pervert which is not true. At your age its even biologically normal to have such feelings. Whether things work out with her or not, don’t call yourself a pervert. Its normal to fall in love and its easy to fall in love. Don’t blame yourself for it.
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May 10, 2016 at 7:35 pm #104213ravi_zimmerfanParticipantAnita – thanks a lot for your words. I understand what you’re saying. I myself have tried the method of shrinking back before; something more like going along with the flow like mentioned in Taoism. Bending like grass under the force of the wind with grace. Sadly I could not manage it very well. Not because of want, but due to guilt. Thoughts of what things could have been, memories of what they were and uncertainty of what they will become. Jerry mentioned to me multiple times that she spoke to me nearly the whole day while she sometimes didn’t speak to her cousin for weeks, but my possessiveness had grown to the extent that I could not be satisfied with even that. Maybe if I had not been so isolated over here, I would not have felt so paranoid about her loving someone else and started all those fights. If I had not agreed meekly to go with the home tutoring, I’d not have developed the false impressions that I do not possess the caliber to make a good career for myself without external help. I know it’s of no use crying over spilt milk. But whenever I told myself that I’ll change for good, I failed to do it. That makes me lose a lot of self respect. As for the break… I just want to go away from here to some quiet resort or monastery or something, away from the Internet, phone and everyone.
Humour – Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words. They truly mean a lot to me. You’re right that due to being unnaturally isolated and reclusive, this issue has affected me far more than it would affect someone who does have other people to go out and share with. For these three years, she was the only one who was present constantly with me in every phase of life, both happy and sad. At this stage, it’s sort of like I don’t care anymore who is at fault and to what extent. I just wish both sides could understand, accept responsibility on their part and move on putting this behind.
May 10, 2016 at 8:03 pm #104216AnonymousGuestDear Ravi:
Your isolation for so long, is a big problem. Your only associates in person are your grandmother and parents. And then you are hiding and hidden from ex schoolmates and even neighbors. You wrote above that you were greedy for more with Jerry. With Jerry it was only online. And although it looks like a lot to you, lots of people, especially young men, would not be satisfied with only on line contact, not having any in-person contact with a girl.
You are a 27 year old man. You are biologically greedy for love. And you are genetically needy of friends, of peers. So your life is not an easy life, not for the longest time. Your distress and anger, therefore, are understandable. So don’t be hard on yourself.
As I wrote posts ago, you are living like a prisoner (with library privileges and walks in the garden). You are used to it, but it is impossible to live like this without anger stirring in you. And when you had that little with Jerry, understandably, you wanted more. A little freedom is never enough. A little love is never enough. You taste freedom or love, and sure you want more.
anita
May 10, 2016 at 9:28 pm #104218ravi_zimmerfanParticipantI know. Just need to clarify that by wanting love, I did not mean physical intimacy and all. I never intended or felt such things for her. I do admit that I wished to meet her, hold hands and hug her. Hearing her laugh on the phone made me experience a feeling of love and affection I never felt before, and cannot describe in words. But it’s the sad truth that still continues to face me. Even if I somehow had gotten everything I wanted, I still am stuck here as badly as ever, told to study, study, study endlessly. The few friends I have just lecture me that it’s my duty to do that because I’m my parents’ only child and they’re dependent on me to take care of them later. If I get frustrated with my situation, mom lectures me – “all kids out there are studying, your cousins are studying, its your duty to do the same without argument”. Not one person cares that I too have/had dreams and wishes of my own.
I’ve been reading some anger/emotion management articles here because I’ve realized I’m affected much by her sister calling me a pervert and saying stuff like “the girls you call sisters must be aware as you can change your feelings and lust for them anytime”, “the Internet is a dangerous place due to masked backstabbers like you”. My other friend suggested me to ignore her words because she’s just an immature 15 year old girl. But I don’t know why I’ve taken these words to heart and feel miserable. I’m feeling it stems from my deep insecurities.
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