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May 27, 2015 at 12:23 pm #77386miranamParticipant
I feel like people are very selfish. No, it is not quite true. I should say I feel like people are selfish towards me. I had few friendship on and off and they always ended with me being very disappointed. I am a very open and social person. I have a lot of empathy and always am there for people in every possible way. But it looks like this is not what people appreciate. I really don’t feel appreciated, I really don’t feel like people can do a little extra step for me, to be there for me, to show the value and appreciate me. It really hurts. If I was young, I would think I have the whole life to live and learn, but I am 44 and I feel like my life is a failure. My core value is genuine love for people and strong ties. And, even though I did everything possible to have it, I never got it. What was I doing wrong? Can someone enlighten me? Any perspective will be much appreciated.
May 27, 2015 at 6:19 pm #77397HeatherParticipantHello Miranam,
You are not doing anything wrong. Actually, you are doing everything right. The thing is, when you are being giving and unselfish in your relationships, it helps to come from a place that is okay with it not being reciprocated as well as you wish. Does it bring you joy to help your friends and appreciate them? Then that is all the matters. Not everyone is as “enlightened” as some others. So it is something you learn to accept. I hope that makes sense? 🙂
May 27, 2015 at 7:31 pm #77399AdamParticipantMiranam,
You seem like a wonderful person and a wonderful friend to have. I’m sorry that you’re facing this challenge right now but I’m sure you can turn it into something positive if you can learn from it. I believe you’re giving too much of yourself to these people and because they don’t return that generosity, you feel wronged in a way. I don’t think the lesson here is to get new friends but to control the amount of energy and time you invest in them. Instead, invest that time and energy into yourself. When you find the people worth making that effort for, you’ll know why they’re worth that on a deeper level because of this experience. Everything is an opportunity to grow and learn.However, if these people are in need of your help, then being appreciated should be the furthest thing from your mind. “True compassion is not about giving or taking. True compassion is doing just what is needed.” We don’t show compassion because we have to, we show compassion because we want it to exist in our own lives. Without people like you, compassion wouldn’t exist in the lives of those around you. Find the strength to show compassion and appreciation as a way of life rather than a means to receive them. What you think is what becomes your reality.
Good luck my friend. Thepathofaronin.blogspot.com is my personal blog and may offer further assistance.
May 28, 2015 at 5:27 am #77414miranamParticipantHello Karmabeliever and Adam. Thank you for your support. You both are asking a very good question: am I giving myself for people to feel appreciated? Do I enjoy the act of kindness? If I got you right, the idea is: if I love people and my acts are selfless, it should not matter whether they reciprocate or not. I wish I could attempt this level of maturity…
So, when I give, I always do it spontaneously, out of my heart and without thinking. I love people. I feel a lot of joy when I can help someone, to be there for someone. However, I cannot say I do it for people to love back or to appreciate me. This thought just does not cross my mind. At least my conscious mind. But, for me, the human connection is the most important thing in life. Something I value the most. And here is where I got disappointed. I don’t really have strong connections in my life. I came to realization that people don’t really care about me. I will skip the details, but when I look around I notice that almost everyone have people who care for them. I am married and have two sons. And still I feel I am the only one who cares. You would argue that people are different and I cannot expect from people to be as caring as I am. Then why I see people giving to others what I would so much want to receive? So they have ability, it is just for some reason it is never directed towards me… I know it sounds like a pity party, but currently this is how I feel. It hurts and life seems to be meaningless and cruel. No hope for tomorrow.May 28, 2015 at 8:24 am #77420AnonymousGuestDear Miranam:
I read your post and the comments with much interest. I do believe in unselfish giving as in “random acts of kindness” but not as a way of life. I do believe we are creatures motivated by self interest just like every single organism, from bacteria to plants to animals. It is in our genes and has existed through millions of years of evolution, to be motivated by self interest. So I do not support trying to live a life ignoring my self interest. (Actually I have done that and it has been nothing but misery to me).I think relationships should be a WIN-WIN situation. So when I consider giving now, I think: what am i getting out of this? For example answering this post, what I am doing right now, my goal is to help myself as well as hopefully, to be of some help to you. I reject the LOSE-WIN (self sacrifice) and WIN-LOSE (exploitating others) relationships or interactions within a relationship.
I wonder if you giving so much to others, being there for them, while you do that, you are not sharing with them your own vulnerability, your own needs. Is it possible that you present yourself as the helpful type person, the strong person that does not need them? Is it possible that even though you do need others, you present yourself as the GIVER, one that does not require TAKING?
Looking forward to your reply.
Take Care:
anitaMay 28, 2015 at 9:24 am #77424miranamParticipantDear Anita,
First of all, I agree with you 100%. It should be win-win. Should. But somehow it doesn’t happen… You see, the issue is I don’t really “consider” giving. I just do it spontaneously. In order to “prevent” myself from giving I need to realize I do it the very moment I am doing it. And then, to refrain from doing it. It seems like very difficult to apply in practice, it requires so much self-awareness. Also, I feel like it will not doing any good to myself, because the moment I am giving I do feel joy. So by intentionally not giving I will deprive myself from this joy. Probably this is myself interest? To make things worst I am very empathetic (or sympathetic). Not sure about the right term, but I feel pain of others. Especially if they are my family or friends. So, helping them, I am actually helping myself. I know it is a big shortcoming, I have tried to eradicate it. So far unsuccessfully.
Maybe I have a certain blueprint in my mind of how the relationship should be and I act accordingly, because this way the life feels better…
You also described with exactitude my type of personality. Everyone says you are such a strong and independent person. I’ve tried to expose my vulnerability. It just seems to me like nobody truly pay attention. No, of course they would sit next to me, listen, an even give their perspective. But it would be a “one-time care”. They will not act on it. At the same time, they will be very caring and giving with others.
You seem to have faced the same issue. Could you develop? How did you change?
Thank you.
MiranamMay 28, 2015 at 9:39 am #77425AnonymousGuestDear Miranam:
Before I answer your question above, I would like to understand a part of your post that I don’t understand, would like you to elaborate on it: “I’ve tried to expose my vulnerability. It just seems to me like nobody truly pay attention. No, of course they would sit next to me, listen, an even give their perspective. But it would be a “one-time care”. They will not act on it. At the same time, they will be very caring and giving with others.”1) How did you expose your vulnerability to another? Example, please be specific.
2) What is a “one time care”
3) What would “acting on it” be like, example?
4) How did a particular person (example) provide YOU with “one time care” and provided with another person a different kind of care, one you wished he/ she provided you?Looking forward to your reply:
anitaMay 28, 2015 at 11:32 am #77433miranamParticipantOuf, Anita… These are real questions, I see… I will need to think about it and express it in a clear form with real life specific example.
May 28, 2015 at 12:20 pm #77440undercityParticipantYou know what fixes every ail? Change every ‘should’ for ‘prefer’. I have had those moments where even though I felt I was giving because it is who I was and I did not expect recriprocity, I would suddenly feel enraged and start thinking ‘why does nobody treat me the way I treat others?!’
The reason is: we all choose our behaviour. I have chosen to be giving and I do gain joy from it. Other people have the right to choose not be giving. You have the right to choose whether you continue to associate with them. If you do not enjoy your relationship with them, you have the right to no longer be in relationship with them. But everybody has the right to choose whether they are kind or cruel or compassionate or discompassionate – and you have that choice too. Live by your own value and expect others to live by theirs. There is not a right or wrong way to be, this is merely a difference of opinion. What I consider to be ‘morally right’, others might consider to be overkill, but I shall stick to what I believe and allow others to live as they wish too.
May 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm #77513BenzRabbitParticipantMiranam,
Here is the short and blunt answer that will save you years of self doubt and melancholy: ‘Most people are jerks’ – key word: “most”
You are a kind spirit in a selfish world !
You did nothing wrong – DO NOT doubt your good actions !!
This may help: http://www.belongwithwildflowers.com/being-kind-in-a-cruel-world/
GOD Bless !!!
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