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  • #458318
    Donald
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    How can someone start establishing healthy emotional boundaries with a parent who depends heavily on them for emotional support, particularly when attempts to address the issue directly are met with guilt, defensiveness, or emotional pushback?

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    #458322
    anita
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    Hello Donald:

    When a parent depends heavily on their adult child for emotional support, the first step in establishing healthy boundaries is recognizing that you are not responsible for regulating your parent’s feelings. It’s not your job.

    Boundaries become possible when they are framed not as Confrontation but as Clarity, and when they’re about your limits, not their approval.

    It’s also important to build alternative sources of support — for the parent and for yourself — so the emotional load doesn’t fall on one relationship.

    And finally, boundaries work best when they are consistent: not harsh, not punitive, just the same message delivered calmly over time, even if the parent pushes back.

    Anita

    #461254
    Sleipnir
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    We call this child as therapist in my circle, the child helps the parent with their trauma without consent. There’s actually a cartoon called Opal which fundamentally has one such abuser the child encounters. I’m actually wondering if Opaline from My Little Pony G5 is actually using Misty in such a way and Opaline’s name is a reference to Opal? (Not Rarity’s Cat!)

    #461266
    anita
    Participant

    Hello yet again, Sleipnir 🙂

    “The child helps the parent with their trauma without consent”- what an interesting way of saying it..

    I don’t know if I said it in this thread, or in another, but for many years I wished and dreamed of helping my mother, of turning her sad life into a happy life (I daydreamed of making her rich and famous, as I thought that’s what it’d take).

    Not realizing she had already helped herself to me (shaming me extensively, dominating me, feeling powerful as she did).

    Back to your words, I didn’t help her with her trauma, didn’t resolve it, or lessen it, it’s just that she got to feel temporarily powerful over someone else, for a change- an exception to her otherwise powerless experience of life.

    And yes, without my consent.

    I’m guessing you’re referring to a computer game (“My Little Pony G5)? I’ll look it up when I have the use of the computer ( using my phone now).

    I’d love to read more from you, in this thread, in your own, or in any other thread.

    Anita

    #461276
    anita
    Participant

    Hello yet again, again, Sleipnir 🙂

    What you’re talking about above is often called parentification, or emotional parentification.

    In healthy families, the parent comforts the child and the child gets to be a child.

    In unhealthy families, the child ends up becoming the comforter, taking care of the parent’s emotional needs instead of being cared for themselves.

    As for Opal, I think I understand the connection you’re making. Sometimes parents become so caught up in their own wounds that their child ends up carrying emotional burdens that never belonged to the child in the first place.

    You mentioned Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl (on your own thread).

    One of his most famous lines is:

    “Those who have a ‘why’ to live, can bear almost any ‘how’.”

    That made me wonder:

    What is your “why,” Sleipnir?

    I’ll tell you mine if you tell me yours. 🙂

    Anita

    #461282
    Sleipnir
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    <cite> @a1b2c3d4 said:</cite>
    Hello yet again, Sleipnir 🙂

    “The child helps the parent with their trauma without consent”- what an interesting way of saying it..

    I don’t know if I said it in this thread, or in another, but for many years I wished and dreamed of helping my mother, of turning her sad life into a happy life (I daydreamed of making her rich and famous, as I thought that’s what it’d take).

    Not realizing she had already helped herself to me (shaming me extensively, dominating me, feeling powerful as she did).

    Back to your words, I didn’t help her with her trauma, didn’t resolve it, or lessen it, it’s just that she got to feel temporarily powerful over someone else, for a change- an exception to her otherwise powerless experience of life.

    And yes, without my consent.

    I’m guessing you’re referring to a computer game (“My Little Pony G5)? I’ll look it up when I have the use of the computer ( using my phone now).

    I’d love to read more from you, in this thread, in your own, or in any other thread.

    Anita

    The Darkest thing about this is that abusers of this type hid behind the idea that that their making you stronger then they were.

    Perhaps I have put it wrong?

    My Little Pony G5 refers to the Generation after G4, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic and My Little Pony Pony, G5 being My Little Pony A New Generation, My Little Pony Make Your Mark, and My Little Pony Tell Your Tale.

    <cite> @a1b2c3d4 said:</cite>
    Hello yet again, again, Sleipnir 🙂

    What you’re talking about above is often called parentification, or emotional parentification.

    In healthy families, the parent comforts the child and the child gets to be a child.

    In unhealthy families, the child ends up becoming the comforter, taking care of the parent’s emotional needs instead of being cared for themselves.

    As for Opal, I think I understand the connection you’re making. Sometimes parents become so caught up in their own wounds that their child ends up carrying emotional burdens that never belonged to the child in the first place.

    You mentioned Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl (on your own thread).

    One of his most famous lines is:

    “Those who have a ‘why’ to live, can bear almost any ‘how’.”

    That made me wonder:

    What is your “why,” Sleipnir?

    I’ll tell you mine if you tell me yours. 🙂

    Anita

    To become a Great Artist.

    #461293
    anita
    Participant

    Still, a good Sat morning, Sleipnir 🙂

    I’ll answer you on this thread and in the new one later in the day.

    For now, I’m fascinated by your answer:

    “To become a Great Artist”- what kind of Great Artist, I wonder..?

    🤔 Anita

    #461314
    anita
    Participant

    Sleipnir, could you help me understand what you mean? I’m not familiar with Opal or the newer My Little Pony series, so I’m having trouble following the connection between Opal, Opaline, and Misty. What similarities are you seeing? 🙂

    Anita

    #461305
    Sleipnir
    Participant

    [quote quote=461293]Still, a good Sat morning, Sleipnir 🙂

    I’ll answer you on this thread and in the new one later in the day.

    For now, I’m fascinated by your answer:

    “To become a Great Artist”- what kind of Great Artist, I wonder..?

    🤔 Anita[/quote]

    A artist that says things that need to be said, I guess?

    #461330
    Sleipnir
    Participant

    <cite> @a1b2c3d4 said:</cite>
    Sleipnir, could you help me understand what you mean? I’m not familiar with Opal or the newer My Little Pony series, so I’m having trouble following the connection between Opal, Opaline, and Misty. What similarities are you seeing? 🙂

    Anita

    Opal is a Cartoon in which a child enters a house full of abusers.

    Opaline is a Villain in My Little Pony Make your Mark and My Little Pony Tell your Tale.

    Misty is henchmen of Opaline’s who suffers abuse at her master’s hooves.

    What I mean simply abuse like this is created by generations of pain and suffering, the situation in Opal is created by a violent disturbed my mother who had problematic childhood.

    In My Little Pony Opaline feels she was never good enough thereby has become a violent disturbed narcissist and abuses Misty in what a first seems to be slapstick but then turns into full out bullying by a mother figure.

    You can watch MLP G5 on Netflix and YouTube and watch Opal probably on YouTube as well.

    #461339
    anita
    Participant

    Good Sunday afternoon, Sleipnir:

    Thank you for explaining. I think I understand your point much better now.

    It sounds as though what interests you in both Opal and the My Little Pony story is the idea that people who have been deeply hurt often go on to hurt others. That doesn’t excuse the abuse, but it can help explain where it comes from.

    I can see why those stories would stand out to you. Both seem to explore how pain can be passed along from one person to another, and how vulnerable people become caught in that cycle.

    My thoughts: “Hurt people hurt people” is a common saying, but it’s only partly true. Many people who have been hurt become especially kind and careful not to harm others.

    However, some hurt people do end up hurting others for several reasons:

    1) When someone grows up around yelling, criticism, neglect, or abuse, may unconsciously repeat what was done to them because it feels familiar.

    2) Someone who feels chronically afraid, ashamed, angry, or powerless may lash out when stressed because they have not learned healthier ways to cope.

    3) Someone might be so consumed by their own fear, anger, shame, insecurity, or unmet needs that they lose sight of the other person as a separate individual with equally important feelings.

    In healthy relating, we hold two realities at once: “I am hurting.” and “You are also a person with your own thoughts, feelings, and needs.”

    In unhealthy relating, the first reality crowds out the second.

    For example, an angry parent may be so focused on their own frustration that they no longer see the child as a frightened child. They see only an obstacle, a source of stress, or a problem to be controlled. The child’s feelings become invisible.

    4) Some people also hurt others in an attempt to regain a sense of power. If they felt powerless or humiliated in the past, dominating someone else can temporarily relieve those feelings, even though it creates more harm.

    What is important, though, is that pain explains behavior but does not excuse it. Understanding why an abusive or hurtful person acts the way they do can be useful, but it does not make the behavior acceptable.

    Back to you, Sleipnir, your comment about wanting to become “an artist that says things that need to be said” also caught my attention. It sounds as though you want your art to do more than entertain. You want it to shine a light on things that are difficult, important, or often overlooked.

    What kinds of things do you most want your art to say?

    🤔 Anita

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