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  • #171083
    struggling
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    Ok – I am new to this forum and struggling with my relationship.  My partner and I have been together for about 9 years, living together for about 5 years.  He has always had difficulty with expressing his emotions or having any sort of deep discussion.  I have always accepted him mostly as he is without too much worry or anxiety.  Over the past 2-3 weeks I have been having increasing doubts about our relationship.  He seems even more distance than usual.  He does suffer with chronic pain and I wonder if he drinks too much (on his days off he has 6-8 beers).  He has never been one to say “I love you much” but does show it in different ways.  The other day I asked him if he loved me and he sarcastically said “no” and then headed off to work.  Last night, he tucked in our dog who sleeps in the bed with us (putting a blanket over him).  Then I asked “what about me”? – I just wanted some kind of emotional validation.  He sarcastically told me to “take a hike”.  I asked him “where do you want me to go” & “are you saying you want me to leave”.  He said ‘no’ to this.  A bit later – right as we were about to go to sleep I asked him if he wanted out of this relationship or was trying to break up with me.    Then he told me to “go to bed”.  I said, “so we are not going to talk about this” and he said “no”.  Then I asked if he was ignoring me and he said “yes”.  Bahhhh — I was so angry.  I did not sleep the rest of the night.  I was having acute anxiety that could be strongly felt in my stomach.  This morning – it was like things were back to normal; no mention of what happened last night.  He was a little nicer, more attentive than normal.  But it’s like he lacks the skills to communicate.  I know this makes him sound like a shitty person – but he does have redeeming qualities as well.   I am many of his ‘shitty’ qualities have been there since I met him.   I’m not sure what to do.  I am questioning if I should end this relationship.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get someone to communicate who is emotionally closed off?  Should I try to force it or try to give him space.   It is really only in the past 2-3 weeks I have had doubts about the relationship.  Do you think I should sit with my feelings for awhile and see what happens.  I have to admit, I am also very conflict avoidant – so I can also shoulder some of the blame.  I’m just feeling very lost and sad and lonely.

    #171089
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Struggling,

    I am sorry to hear you are going through this. You mentioned he is in quite a bit of pain alot, and sometimes that can make people very distant and uncommincatuve. Add that on to his being like that already, and things are probably unfortunately going to get worse. I too, go through alot of pain, and sometimes, I just want everyone to leave me alone and I’m probably not the nicest person to live with, which I why I prefer to be single and live alone. I don’t want someone “held back” by me. Maybe he feels he can not offer you anything right now because of his ongoing pain. But he does not know how to talk to you about it, or express it

    When someone is nicer to a pet, than they are to you, it’s time to perhaps move on. It does not sound like he is going to change or become emotionally available for you. You have your needs, and he is not meeting them, actually he is belittling you and being very disrespectful. He does not sound like he is healthy right now to be in any kind of relationship. I’m sure he may have some nice qualities, but it’s not enough. You shouldn’t have to be miserable and treated this way. Tell him “to take a hike” you are tired of his rudeness to you and find someone who will treat you with the love, attention, caring and respect you deserve.

    #171147
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi struggling,

    What was he like when you guys met? Was he attentive and doting? Or was he truly always like this? Either you miss the ways things used to be, or you’re tired of being in a non-emotional relationship.

    I give him somewhat of a pass due to his chronic pain. Also, it sounds like he is comfortable enough to use good natured sarcasm/ribbing on you. It’s like he’s using sarcasm to say, “Of course I love you, silly! Don’t be ridiculous!”

    I don’t think he would ever break up with you. Unfortunately, you would have to be the one to end it.

    I don’t envy your decision. It’s harder because he’s not coming from a place of malice. But unless he changes (he won’t for long), it is what it is.

    Best,

    Inky

    #171151
    Eliana
    Participant

    Hi Struggling,

    I re-read your post, others may not agree with me, but I feel all our opinions our valid, but you should read them carefully, and always decide what’s best for you. We are not in this relationship, you are. I feel there is a difference between “good ole kidding around” “and sarcasm” and emotional abuse. The words “take a hike” to me is not sarcastic, it’s emotional abuse, because it hurt your feelings, made you sad and lonely/ confused, and then when you said “where do you want me to go” again, he was unkind. I don’t find anything in the form of kidding around, he was disrespectful. This is no way to talk to someone you love. If someone talked to me this way, I would have packed my bags and left. I won’t tolerate being talked to like this. It’s emotionally abusive.

    Nor he did he try to make amends, cuddle with you, nothing. Pain or no pain, it’s no excuse. If you are in that much pain where you are going to mistreat someone, then he needs to let you go, so he can get his pain taken care of, physical therapy, steroid shots or whatever the case may be. I feel he needs time alone. He is not capable and can not Give anything to a relationship. I think you deserve better.

    #171153
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear struggling:

    You wrote about your boyfriend: “But it’s like he lacks the skills to communicate”- to me he communicated very well to you that he feels anger toward you. It is not necessary for a person to state: “I am angry at you” so to clearly communicate anger. When he told you “take a hike”- that is a clear indication of anger. The sarcasm in his tone of voice itself is an indication of anger.

    You asked him if he wanted to end the relationship with you, but you did not ask him why he is angry at you, did you?

    anita

    #171177
    struggling
    Participant

    Thanks for all your responses.  They help me process all this.  I definitely struggles with communicating my boundaries – to let him know what is and what isn’t ok.  I did address our relationship this morning and he was more receptive – agreeing to work on it.  He did not agree to see a counsel or together.  I am planning on getting my own counseling.  I have ALOT of shame around admitting to others we have a less than ideal relationship (even my family and close friends).  I did have a long talk with one of my friends today and was very open about things.  I then had a good cry.  Im gonna give it a bit of time and see how it goes with setting better boundaries (and not avoiding difficult conversations), talking more openly with my close family and close friends, & getting my own counselling.   I think I have some of my own shame issues to work on.  I have been having pretty bad anxiety (not hungry, trouble sleeping, tummy pain) – although it’s eased up a bit now with my talking to my friend and to my boyfriend.  He is being much more pleasant today… but this is only one day.

    #171237
    i_like_advice
    Participant

    Hi struggling,

    I’m glad to hear you talked to him about it. I’m also glad to hear that you’re seeking your own counseling. I encourage you to be as supportive of him as possible while setting your own boundaries. When he is sarcastic and it hurts your feelings, let him know, in the moment if possible, that you feel hurt by his words. Communication is the only possible solution for your problems, so continue to communicate with him and encourage him to communicate back. Continue to suggest counseling, I suspect it could help you guys a lot.

    Good luck!

    #171313
    dreaming715
    Participant

    I’ve been with my boyfriend for about 1 year and 4 months now and I would consider him to have moments of emotional unavailability. He also has a difficult time talking about “deep or uncomfortable conversations.” To trouble-shoot this we’ve talked about what time of day is best to have a deep conversation (for us it’s not right away in the morning or right before we got to bed). We also try to set a reasonable time limit so the conversation doesn’t snowball into an hour long re-hashing of the same issues. Sometimes it’s not to get it out on the table and then each take a little mental break. These are just some communication ideas that have worked for me that may work for you.

    The thing that stuck out to me in your original post was his sarcastic and dismissive comments. That is something I would personally address asap and state that there’s a difference between light-hearted joking and being disrespectful. I would talk to him about how this and hopefully he will be receptive to changing the way he chooses to respond to you.

    #171773
    Kimberly
    Participant

    Hello, Struggling.  I am going to be completely, but kindly honest in this post while admitting that I may be completely wrong.  One thing I do want to suggest is that if your partner does change his mind and agrees to go to counseling, I would HIGHLY recommend a particular type of therapy called IMAGO.  I am no expert on it but have participated in this type of counseling for problems I was having in a romantic relationship and I found it to be so very enlightening.  I learned things about myself, about my partner, and about a different way to communicate.  As for my opinion of your relationship, I believe it is time for you to make a hard decision about whether or not you will stay and continue to be devalued and demeaned as I believe you are now.  There are so many responses he could have given you to your VERY IMPORTANT questions such as “Do you want me to leave” that would have communicated his unwillingness to discuss it without being hurtful and dismissive of you and your feelings.  He could have simply said “yes” or “no.”  He could have said “That’s a serious question.  I really cannot handle talking about something like that right now.  I’ve had a brutal week at work, I’m exhausted and I’m in a lot of pain.  Can we discuss it on “X” day when I’m not so worn down?”  I also have chronic pain and although I am not comparing mine to his, I will say that while it has changed me for the worse (very low frustration tolerance and severely decreased patience level), it is never an excuse to be hurtful (especially on a consistent basis) and without apologizing.   Can you imagine being truly in love with someone who asks you “Do you want me to leave?”  When I imagine that, even if I did want them to leave my heart would ache for them and the uncertainty, anxiety, and pain they must be feeling to even ask that.  I don’t think it is too much to ask of someone to give you some minutes of their life and a truthful but respectful and kind answer regardless of how much physical pain they are in or how limited their communication skills are.  I think you need to ask yourself why you have stayed with this person for this long, even with his good qualities.   What do you believe you deserve in a relationship?  Do you deserve honesty, kindness, affection, consideration, a little latitude for your quirks and insecurities, accountability from your partner for their mistakes, forgiveness, etc.?  I think you both deserve all these things and more.  Can you imagine yourself receiving the love, affection, validation and consideration you long for?  So maybe it is time to determine if this man can meet your needs and you can meet his?    And if it the answer is no, then I believe it is time to communicate the same to him in a compassionate way, move away from this pain, allow yourself to grieve, forgive him and yourself for all the mistakes you made, try to learn from them, try not repeat them, and move on toward a healthier relationship.  I wish you all the love, kindness and respect we all deserve.

    #172963
    struggling
    Participant

    Thanks for everyone’s responses.  A quick update, I ended the relationship 4 days ago.  If is very sad, but we had drifted too far apart.  I’m in the process of moving out.  We both made a lot of mistakes.  My passive nature, and not communicating my boundaries are things I am taking responsibility for.  We both made mistake.  This is my first breakup from a long-term relationship (9 years).  It is quite the emotional rollercoaster – complete with a lot of crying.

    #173025
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Struggling:

    I am glad you posted again with your update. It was a long term relationship, your emotional rollercoaster is understandable.

    In such a time, social support is helpful. But in an earlier post you wrote: ” I have ALOT of shame around admitting to others we have a less than ideal relationship (even my family and close friends)”-

    would you like to elaborate on that shame?

    anita

    #173085
    struggling
    Participant

    I think the shame comes from my people pleasing nature.  I always want people to think well of me (and this is where I get a lot of my self worth).  I pushed down my needs in the relationship in order avoid conflict.   I’m seeing a counsellor now – she feels I have a  passive communication style.  I’m hoping with my counsellor I can explore my patterns in the relationship.  I am feeling extremely guilty for never telling my partner what I truely needed.  I feel like it’s my fault.  He is being extremely cooperative in the breakup which is making miss him so much.  I’m definitely grieving the loss of our relationship (while emotionally he was distant, he was extremely reliable and dependable).  He doesn’t have a large social group and I am so worried about him getting lonely.

    #173129
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear struggling:

    Your relationship with your now ex boyfriend, according to my reading of your original post was about how he feels, what he thinks, what he wants. While he may very well “lacks the skills to communicate”, so have you, not presenting your feelings, your thoughts and your wants as being as valuable or as relevant as his. As if you were not an equal party to the relationship, and I suppose you were not.

    You wrote above that you are worried about him getting lonely, which fits the pattern of it, the relationship, past and present, being about him. Notice, you wrote in your original post: “he is without too much worry or anxiety….  I was having acute anxiety that could be strongly felt in my stomach. … I have been having pretty bad anxiety”- clearly it is you who needs your attention.

    The shame and guilt are powerful factors in your anxiety. These lead to you taking way more responsibility to what happens than the other person to the relationship.

    I hope your counseling helps you a lot. Reads to me that it is so. Hope you post again.

    anita

    #173177
    struggling
    Participant

    Anita – you definitely hit the nail on the head with your last post.  It definitely resonated.  While I think I understand these concepts intellectually (I’ve read all of Brene Browns books), I’m hoping with my counsellor I truely and authentically start to make some changes (in addressing my shame issues).

    #173199
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear struggling:

    Yes, reading books, reading anything can not resolve shame. It can be resolved, “truly and authentically” only in the context of a relationship, be it with a quality psychotherapist. Relationships with loving individuals, non-shaming individuals can also help.

    anita

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