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    #110943
    Tannhauser
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    Yes, the Neptune episode was rather strange and I can’t rationalize it away. I tapped into another dimension. Neptune featured VERY strongly, and I don’t know why. A few years prior to this I had an even stranger episode which involved the Roman god Bacchus. I don’t know why the ‘spiritual realm’ decided to do this, because it left me very confused. Bacchus and Jesus share the same monogram, they ride in triumphal processions on animals; they are both associated with wine and viniculture, they spring people from prison and Jesus even uses words spoken by Bacchus/Dionysus in Euripides’ The Bacchae. This leaves me to draw the following conclusions: either Bacchus is the real deal and Jesus is a sanitized copy, or they are one and the same. But, in my opinion, Bacchus/Dionysus is a very real force. You will find that both Karl Jung and Friedrich Nietzsche both experienced this force, although they tried to rationalize it away. This force turns everything upside down and leaves you with a blank canvas. You then are left with no alternative than to try to create your own reality, which is exactly what Nietzsche did. As you can imagine, this is causing very real problems with my Christian faith, as it did with Nietzsche. The Christian God no longer rings true to me. He issues too many orders which clearly display a human agenda at work. The spiritual realm does NOT issue orders. Of any kind whatsoever. What it does do is leave subtle signs which you can accept as being divine or coincidental. It doesn’t interfere. It is neutral, exactly as you said yesterday.

    There is something very big out there. And it is everywhere; in you, in me, in our loved ones and pets, in the trees, everywhere. If you come across it, it is truly magical. You are more likely to come across it in your local woods than your local church. Woods and forests have always been the most sacred places.

    Best wishes.

    #110945
    Anonymous
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    Dear Tannhauser:

    “Woods and forests have always been the most sacred places” you wrote. I live in a forest area. Unfortunately I can still hear neighbors screaming (last night), but lots of trees, a forest, deer, elk, rabbit, coyotes on the property. And indeed it is magnificent. There is a lot to learn from nature. This is why I suggested earlier to focus on the Natural before focusing on the Supernatural. There is a lot that I don’t know, but I know that it is impossible for me to know. I only have these five senses and this particular human brain. So I am not bothered by the fact that I will never know a whole lot of things. I am not trying to know the unknowable because there is so much in front of me that I CAN learn.

    When I learn about people, motivations, and such, I get more and more clear about the ways of the world, how people operate. It is fascinating for me. So when I read what you wrote about confusion in your last post: ” I don’t know why the ‘spiritual realm’ decided to do this, because it left me very confused.” –

    …It made me wonder about the truth of your spiritual realizations, because if they are true, why are they confusing? My experience with unearthing truths is that I get less confused. I get clarity.

    Going back to part of the title of your thread: “Future bleak”- for all of us, the future is that we, as we know ourselves, bodies and brain, will die. This is an undeniable bleakness. Although in nature it is business-as-usual, neutral. But in our ability to think in ways that other animals can’t- it seems bleak, unfathomable. I think this anxiety, the end of us, spurred lots of religion, making believe we will somehow survive death.

    anita

    #111071
    Tannhauser
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    Dear Anita, thank you once again, I appreciate your input.

    I don’t think we are going to get anywhere here. I cannot deny the truth as I see it, namely that I am on some sort of spiritual path.

    I know we don’t just die and that’s it, game over. The nature of the universe is not linear, it is cyclical, so why should our existence be any different? If you think along the lines of day and night, then perhaps you will understand better. If our existence is linear, then at some point why do we not have permanent night or permanent winter?

    Thanks for your help, but I think its time to end this topic.

    Best wishes.

    #111077
    Anonymous
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    Dear Tannhauser:

    I respect your assertion to end this topic and wish you the best as well.

    anita

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